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HawkX66 05-11-2018 02:01 PM

Starter gave up the ghost last night
 
I posted this on Camaros.net also, but the traffic has been light there lately. Any comments are appreciated.

So I was out for a rip last night and stopped to get gas. When I went to start my 69, it acted like the battery was dead or I had too much advance. After trying to jump start it and swapping batteries with my son, I figured it was starter heat soak. So, I had my son tow me across a parking lot with his Mustang so I could pop the clutch. It fired right up so I could take it home. Funny looking scene I'm sure. Thankfully it was dark... :wink2:
So now I'm faced with what to do for a starter. I have two mini starters. The first one is the stock one from my 454. The second one is an a/m mini starter that I got from a friend, but it's an unknown. As long as it works well, is there any reason I would want to use the a/m one over the factory? Do the teeth look right for a stock style flywheel on the one that says 9706?
Also, with these mini starters, do you think I'll need a heat shield going forward?
Thanks.

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McCune 05-11-2018 02:09 PM

The GM starter from your 454 is far superior to the modified Nissan 300zx starter. You can buy this starter for cheap and they seem to work well. https://www.ebay.com/itm/LUCAS-Start...NZeFyb&vxp=mtr

Use GM starter bolts 12338064

big gear head 05-11-2018 02:23 PM

I've got a Tilton on my 427 and I've never had a problem with it. No heat shield.

BillD 05-11-2018 02:27 PM

I had good luck with this:

http://www.robbmcperformance.com/pro...y_starter.html

You can put the solenoid in any position. Switched to here after problems with one of the name brand mini starters

HawkX66 05-11-2018 02:36 PM

I'd love to run a Tilton. That's what I have on my LS6 in the 79 Z28. I just don't see the need for buying something else right now when I have two good starters. I'm just trying to decide which of the two to run. You can change the position of the solenoid on the a/m mini starter I have in the pic also.
So McCune, why do you say modified 300zx starter? Do you mean because it's Japanese or it's so similar to one? You really think the GM factory starter with 200k miles on it would be better that the other one?

McCune 05-11-2018 04:48 PM

The modified mini A/M starter started life as a 300 ZX starter and they took a solid block of aluminum and machined to fit the Nissan starter , changed the pinion and bolted it to Chevy block. The GM starter is better than the Nissan Hitachi starter in my opinion. The gm starter also fits a 1000X better. I am not sure of the condition of your GM starter but you and get a replacement for 36 bucks.

HawkX66 05-11-2018 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McCune (Post 1400665)
The modified mini AF starter started life as a 300 ZX starter and they took a solid block of aluminum and machined to fit the Nissan starter , changed the pinion and bolted it to Chevy block. The GM starter is better than the Nissan Hitachi starter in my opinion. The gm starter also fits a 1000X better. I am not sure of the condition of your GM starter but you and get a replacement for 36 bucks.

Awesome. Thanks for the info. For $36, I might just buy a new one. I thought they were a lot more for some reason.

McCune 05-11-2018 05:12 PM

I put the link for the 36.00 starter in my first response and the number for the starter bolts you will need.

HawkX66 05-11-2018 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McCune (Post 1400669)
I put the link for the 36.00 starter in my first response and the number for the starter bolts you will need.

I'll check it out. No access to ebay right now. Thanks again.

ban617 05-12-2018 12:19 PM

I know on my 69 big block Nova with 2 1/8 Hooker super comp headers .. I had heat soak issues with the starter & installed a ford starter relay & it definitely helped , also didn’t have any other wires to mess with just a jumper to the solenoid & cable ...


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