69 Camaro SS grill (which Black to use)?

[Camaro Don]

I would like to paint my 69 Camaro SS grill the correct color Black. Anyone have any idea if it was a <span style="font-weight: bold">Satin</span> Black or a <span style="font-weight: bold">Dull Black </span>?? I have a can of <span style="font-weight: bold">Krylon Fusion Satin </span>and one can of <span style="font-weight: bold">Seymour High Tec Dull Black. </span> Not sure which would be the one to use?? Any ideas?? Thanks.

[William]

Original SS grilles for non-black cars were molded in black. Only the plastic outside the grille moldings was painted body color.

[Camaro Don]

Thanks for the reply william. I was referring to the &quot;BLACK&quot; center section of the grill. NOT the body color part of the grill. <span style="font-weight: bold">Was a Satin Black used, Flat Black etc....</span>

[Plowman]

On a black car. RS black car the grill was silver, I do not know.

[Camaro Don]

No, no..... I have the incorrect silver grill on my car now. I want to change the color to the &quot;Correct&quot; BLACK. My car is LeMans Blue! Just not sure what Black to use. Satin, Flat, Dull etc.. I'm referring to the center section of the grill only.

[olredalert]

----Whos on first??? LOL!.........Semi-gloss Krylon would do the trick. Shoot it from a bit of a distance and it will even look better.

----Looking back at your first post I see its Krylon Fusion. I dont know how that sprays or flows out. I really miss the original Krylon semi-gloss. Do a bit of testing first.....Bill S

[Camaro Don]

<span style="font-weight: bold">I dont know </span>is on first!! LOL

[COPO]

Don, if your car has an original GM silver grill, it is worth a fair amount of money if it is in nice shape (no broken pieces). It would be in high demand from someone restoring a Z-28 or COPO. Have seen mint GM silver grills bring $1000. The GM black SS grills are pretty common or just use a repo. The black center portion on SS grills was not painted at the factory as it was molded in black plastic. The outer portion was painted body color.

[Camaro Don]

Thanks Copo. I'm pretty sure the grill is a repro.

[L78 Fred]

I have a black std GM NOS grill(3957062) in the box I will deliver to the Bronx on July 14th for $750 if you do not want to paint the grill you have.



Just an option- I know this is not the area to sell things.

Side bar questions for those who might know, What is the molded color under a silver GM std grill?- I would have thought white or silver
I have another GM grill in the box that is silver but under the silver is black( tiny chip of paint came off-box rub point)- and does not look like it was masked and sprayed or ever bolted to a car, part number is the black grill number above. grill was shipped to Penske Chevrolet, King of Prussia PA about 1982 when I used to buy from them


Fred
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215 651 5801

[Camaro Don]

Thanks Fred, thats out of my league though.

[L78 Fred]

No Problem- best wishes!
Fred

[my70454ss]

The grill is cast in bone. And yes they are quite expensive. I just bought an NOS grill for $1,800 for my 69 Yenko.

Rodger

[bergy]

How about if some of the experts chime in here. I have an 05E '69 Camaro that I believe has the original grille in it. It is black plastic painted silver (fathom green car). I have pictures of it &quot;as removed&quot; if it helps.

[Lynn]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bergy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How about if some of the experts chime in here. I have an 05E '69 Camaro that I believe has the original grille in it. It is black plastic painted silver (fathom green car). I have pictures of it &quot;as removed&quot; if it helps. </div></div>


Well, first off I am a CNE (certified non-expert), but pretty darn sure the silver grills were all cast in off white for the assy line. I would suspect your grill was replaced.

Having said that, I have no doubt there are more than a few guys here that have much more experience messing with true survivor cars.

[Lynn]

And another thing: I would not paint the grill with Krylon. About the only rattle can paint I would use ona an exterior car part would be SEMS brand.

[bergy]

Sorry if I've offended you Lynn - sure didn't intend to. My car was never restored and pretty original, but certainly could have had the grille replaced along the way. I was just wondering if there was more then one supplier &amp; maybe different base material colors. A lot has been written about the colors of the finished grilles, but I haven't seen anything about different colors of the base material.

[Lynn]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bergy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sorry if I've offended you Lynn - sure didn't intend to. My car was never restored and pretty original, but certainly could have had the grille replaced along the way. I was just wondering if there was more then one supplier &amp; maybe different base material colors. A lot has been written about the colors of the finished grilles, but I haven't seen anything about different colors of the base material. </div></div>

Well, crap. One of the problems with the internet is that typed words don't always convey the spirit in which they are intended. I was not the least bit offended. Calling myself a certified non expert was only meant to convey acknowledgement of those on this board with considerable more expertise to me. Sorry if I came across as being whiney.

[L78 Fred]

When I purchased a number of 3957062 black grills in the early 80's I believe the silver (3957044) was already discontinued- that is why I am confused about what I have and asked the question about the base material.At that same time 2 of the other grills I still have are marked VIP(on the box) which is what a number of the parts I have received are marked before they are discontiued as well as that designation was used for rush shipment which mine were not

I will take some pictures and post in the next few days, as I have stated earlier there are no marks or indications that it was ever bolted up or masked and sprayed. I opened the sealed box sometime in early 2000 +/- a few years and put the grill aside still in the original box.- maybe a factory screw up? or someone purchased it- did a hell of a job painting it and returned it?
Thanks
Fred

[bergy]

Pictures would help. Don's original question concerned what paint to use on his grille, but how much of the back side of the grille should he paint? The grille in my fathom green car was black base material and painted silver, but the back side is still mostly black. Many of the survivor cars that I have seen with the bone colored base material grilles have a lot of the bone color showing on the back side. It would be great if Steve and some of the survivor judges could chime in.

[Lynn]

&quot;Many of the survivor cars that I have seen with the bone colored base material grilles have a lot of the bone color showing on the back side.&quot;

That is the case with the few I have seen.

[Lynn]

Sorry, double post.

[Jonesy]

I have used SEM #15013 Landau Black. It looks to be the correct paint and shade/gloss.
That is the correct paint for plastic and it is dead on for gloss and color, IMO.
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