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sixt9rsx33
10-16-2019, 10:40 AM
Do you West Coast guys know anything about this company. Seems odd to me that they have a large selection of what looks like quality lots. I suppose they busted a large criminal collector??
https://www.appleauctioneeringco.com/
L_e_e
10-16-2019, 11:37 AM
The current auction in Woodland Ca, has LOTS of interesting cars.
https://appletowing.hibid.com/catalog/185288/u-s--marshals--live---online-webcast--auction-10-26-2019/
L_e_e
10-16-2019, 11:38 AM
Hmmm, it's on the list.... https://appletowing.hibid.com/lot/56824116/1969-chevrolet-camaro/?q=&ref=catalog
Nova Pete
10-16-2019, 11:53 AM
Currently $15,075.. wow
L_e_e
10-16-2019, 11:57 AM
Looks like most of the cars came from..
https://www.docketbird.com/court-documents/USA-v-Kelly/STIPULATION-and-ORDER-signed-by-District-Judge-Troy-L-Nunley-on-3-28-2019-EXTENDING-time-until-6-18-2019-to-file-a-Complaint-for-Forfeiture-and-or-to-obtain-an-indictment-alleging-forfeiture/caed-2:2019-mc-00053-00002
https://www.courthousenews.com/feds-seize-millions-from-couple-accused-of-ponzi-scheme/
rlw68
10-16-2019, 12:13 PM
https://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/appleauctioneeringco.com
Are these are government seized vehicles ??
Apple Auctioneering Co. is the nations leader in seized asset management & government liquidation.
The website is over 8 years old and hosted in the US by Google. If the website is located somewhere like Romania I'd make a quick u-turn
:)
sixt9rsx33
10-16-2019, 12:30 PM
https://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/appleauctioneeringco.com
Are these are government seized vehicles ??
The website is over 8 years old and hosted in the US by Google. If the website is located somewhere like Romania I'd make a quick u-turn
:)
That is great info. I have to believe it is a scam.
sixt9rsx33
10-16-2019, 12:35 PM
Looks like most of the cars came from..
https://www.docketbird.com/court-documents/USA-v-Kelly/STIPULATION-and-ORDER-signed-by-District-Judge-Troy-L-Nunley-on-3-28-2019-EXTENDING-time-until-6-18-2019-to-file-a-Complaint-for-Forfeiture-and-or-to-obtain-an-indictment-alleging-forfeiture/caed-2:2019-mc-00053-00002
https://www.courthousenews.com/feds-seize-millions-from-couple-accused-of-ponzi-scheme/
Well maybe its is not a scam? Have to call Apple Towing.
L_e_e
10-16-2019, 12:47 PM
The cars in the auction VIN numbers match the Vin numbers on the US court documents.
purple panther
10-16-2019, 01:14 PM
where are the cars located Russia???
markinnaples
10-16-2019, 01:34 PM
Wow, some really nice Mopars on their page...
Charley Lillard
10-16-2019, 01:49 PM
Auction is real. Cars are here in my little town in a warehouse. Being talked about all over the internet so I'm guessing there won't be much in the way of steals. A few years ago there was a tiny online auction here with a Iso Grifo I thought I was going to steal and it ended up selling for 375K.
seventyLs5
10-16-2019, 03:59 PM
Unreal, Documented 69 Camaro COPO car. 2 AAR Cudas that appear real and several Superbird and Daytona cars. They werent really stuck on one brand of car either. I guess if I was spending other peoples money I would buy several of each brand also.
Stefano
10-16-2019, 03:59 PM
That's in Clill's neigborhood? Oops did see he was allready engaged.
YenkoYS-199Stinger
10-17-2019, 12:14 PM
Apple Towing does auctions here in Houston too. They just had another one yesterday. I have gone to several and bought cars and tools. Most all of them are local city or county seizures and some are US Marshall seizures. The main ones I hit are the US Marshall auctions. Lots of great stuff from drug seizures. Sometimes the Marshall's that were involved in the seizures are there and are real fun to talk to.
BCreekDave
10-17-2019, 12:28 PM
New to this auction. Am I understanding it correctly that you have to pay $1000.00 up front deposit and that it is forfeited if the winning bidder (even if its not you?) reneges?
"All pre-bid deposits will be refunded within 7-10 business days, unless the high bidder defaults payment for a winning bid. If full payment is not received for items successfully won at auction by Wednesday, 10/30/2019 5PM ET, the $1,000 deposit becomes non-refundable at which point the property shall revert back to the government."
HawkX66
10-17-2019, 12:53 PM
New to this auction. Am I understanding it correctly that you have to pay $1000.00 up front deposit and that it is forfeited if the winning bidder (even if its not you?) reneges?
"All pre-bid deposits will be refunded within 7-10 business days, unless the high bidder defaults payment for a winning bid. If full payment is not received for items successfully won at auction by Wednesday, 10/30/2019 5PM ET, the $1,000 deposit becomes non-refundable at which point the property shall revert back to the government."
I think all they're saying is that if you are runner up and the one in front of you reneges, you become the high bidder and your deposit stands as partial payment. I'm not a lawyer though lol
Lee Stewart
10-17-2019, 12:55 PM
Scammers car collection of 150 vehicles to be auctioned off in the next 2 weeks
DC Solar was a start up mobile solar power generators that raised $800 million in capital from the likes of Berkshire Hathaway, Sherwin-Williams, and Progressive.
Unfortunately its owners, the Carpoffs, used the purported energy startup's money to live a lavish lifestyle, collecting cars, sponsoring NASCAR teams like Chip Ganassi Racing, and even buying a baseball team, with the startup funds.
Law enforcement identified DC Solar as a possible Ponzi scheme and raided the Carpoffs' home, confiscating $1.8 million in cash, and 149 vehicles.
3 Superbirds, 1 Daytona, 1 Demon, 8 Road Runners, a Burt Reynolds owned Firebird TA, 1 Viper, 7 Mustangs, a dozen Camaros, 4 Hummers from the early 90s, 4 Chevelles (66, 66, 68, 70), a '59 Chris Craft, 2 1970 Challengers, 1 1971 Challenger, what looks like a 68 Hurst Super Stock Dart, what appear to be 4 Eleanor Mustangs, 2 'AAR Cudas, 440 Shaker hood 1970 Barracuda, a '60 and a 61 Beetle, a Hellcat Challenger
http://justacarguy.blogspot.com/2019/10/scammers-car-collection-of-150-vehicles.html
https://www.motorious.com/articles/news/376814/us-marshals-dc-solar-scam-car-auction
JamesinHBCA
10-17-2019, 05:48 PM
New to this auction. Am I understanding it correctly that you have to pay $1000.00 up front deposit and that it is forfeited if the winning bidder (even if its not you?) reneges?
"All pre-bid deposits will be refunded within 7-10 business days, unless the high bidder defaults payment for a winning bid. If full payment is not received for items successfully won at auction by Wednesday, 10/30/2019 5PM ET, the $1,000 deposit becomes non-refundable at which point the property shall revert back to the government."
No. It means if the winner (high bidder) does not pay in full on time their deposit is forfeited.
Glad these people got caught. Fine with me if they never get out of prison.
So, Charley, how many PM's have you receive asking if you will get car X Y or Z running "if I am high bidder"?
Looks like a lot of them have keys but do not start. Probably have sat since the raid without battery tenders or being started. If you are on site, it would be easy enough to remedy, but what about internet bidders? Who (other than Charley) is going to get the car running for them?
I like the Fiats. Yes, grossly underpowered, but still something about those tiny cars appeals to me. Also like the hemi powered 67 Dart (lot 167). I don't even care if it was originally a hemi car. It would be a blast.
Charley Lillard
10-18-2019, 03:22 AM
https://www.foxnews.com/auto/car-collection-seized-bankrupt-d-c-solar-auction
Charley Lillard
10-18-2019, 03:22 AM
Apparently not in jail.
L_e_e
10-18-2019, 12:49 PM
This is a rather disturbing quote from that article:
"Jeff and Paulette Carpoff haven’t been charged with any crimes as of yet, according to the U.S. Attoney’s office, but their situation remains under investigation. In the meantime, the Carpoffs and the Department of Justice agreed to hold an interlocutory sale and put the proceeds into a seized asset account, rather than continue to incur expenses for the storage and maintenance of the vehicles."
Charley Lillard
10-18-2019, 01:33 PM
That explains why there are reserves.
markinnaples
10-18-2019, 01:39 PM
This is a rather disturbing quote from that article:
"Jeff and Paulette Carpoff haven’t been charged with any crimes as of yet, according to the U.S. Attoney’s office, but their situation remains under investigation. In the meantime, the Carpoffs and the Department of Justice agreed to hold an interlocutory sale and put the proceeds into a seized asset account, rather than continue to incur expenses for the storage and maintenance of the vehicles."
Seriously, shoot first and ask questions later? But that said (because it does appear to go against the very nature of presumed innocent until proven guilty), there must be a metric ---- ton of evidence that these people did something wrong because I can't see them acquiescing to something like the sale of these vehicles if they were completely innocent. Still disturbing no matter what the circumstances though.
ALLZS
10-18-2019, 02:06 PM
is the copo the real deal
Charley Lillard
10-18-2019, 02:50 PM
Yes. Was owned by a member here and has a Yenko Camaros block in it.
PeteLeathersac
10-18-2019, 03:46 PM
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Is the Yenko engine Vin known also confirmed as genuine?:hmmm:
Past SYC thread on the Yellow Copo 124379N635549...
https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?t=137776
:beers:
~ Pete
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Yes. Was owned by a member here and has a Yenko Camaros block in it.
Is that past owner still a member on here today?
RPOLS3
10-18-2019, 04:35 PM
This is a rather disturbing quote from that article:
"Jeff and Paulette Carpoff haven’t been charged with any crimes as of yet, according to the U.S. Attoney’s office, but their situation remains under investigation. In the meantime, the Carpoffs and the Department of Justice agreed to hold an interlocutory sale and put the proceeds into a seized asset account, rather than continue to incur expenses for the storage and maintenance of the vehicles."
LOL - I learned a new word today, had to look it up.....: Interlocutory
Interlocutory is a legal term which can refer to an order, sentence, decree, or judgment, given in an intermediate stage between the commencement and termination of a cause of action, used to provide a temporary or provisional decision on an issue
L_e_e
10-18-2019, 05:24 PM
LOL, don't feel too bad, I had to look it up also.
SuperNovaSS
10-18-2019, 05:30 PM
Reserves definitely take away a lot of the excitement.
Jason
the427king
10-18-2019, 06:23 PM
A reserve auction is basically the same thing as a no reserve with shill bidders
Charley Lillard
10-23-2019, 02:05 AM
https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article236497933.html?fbclid=IwAR0HDzN-kMwxcaKHzQaKJHFf2WQqwY_0RBFl0D-6Oe9OB3XsnAknurtLWuc
Charley Lillard
10-23-2019, 03:11 PM
Some of the cars are already bid up to more than I think they are worth. It appears most people think since it is a fed auction it must be a deal. Going to look at them tomorrow as it's only about 5 miles away. If a member here buys anything I can probably store it here till you get it picked up.
Jonesy
10-23-2019, 03:17 PM
How do you know if a car has met reserve or not? Am I missing something?
I dont see it.
Charley Lillard
10-23-2019, 03:20 PM
All I can see is what they are bid up to.
Slim pick'ns as far as Chevelles are concerned.
cudino
10-23-2019, 11:28 PM
How do you know if a car has met reserve or not? Am I missing something?
I dont see it.
If I understand their description correctly, they will not specify the reserves, or even specify if the highest bid has exceeded the reserve. At the end of the auction for each lot a federal authority (maybe in conjunction with the owners?) will review the highest bid for that lot and then decide to sell it or not, at which time the high bidder will be notified. Pretty strange. But my guess is that all lots with any sort of reasonable high bid will get sold.
Quoted from their site:
“Auction Conducted with Reserve.
The United States Marshals Service reserves the right to approve the final offer made by the successful high bidder, even after the auction lot closes and auctioneer announces "Sold." The reserve amounts will not be disclosed to the public, and there will not be a "Reserve Met" or "Reserve Not Met" disclosure during the auction.”
- Wade
Some of the cars are already bid up to more than I think they are worth. It appears most people think since it is a fed auction it must be a deal. Going to look at them tomorrow as it's only about 5 miles away. If a member here buys anything I can probably store it here till you get it picked up.
Very kind of you Charley.
You could drive the Bonneville, buy a couple of the vintage Fiat 500's and put them in the trunk.
Having a hard time believing some of the bids.
Charley Lillard
10-24-2019, 08:38 PM
Went today. Just about everything is already bid higher that I would pay. Dodge Daytona is at 112K and from reading forums it was hit very hard at one time to where the rocker was pushed in to the trans tunnel. Firewall still has some wrinkles. I like the Charger 500. It is at 75K. Yellow COPO is at 91K.
purple panther
10-24-2019, 10:35 PM
im sure the auction house is helping the bids.
As in they're serving Alcohol?
Jonesy
10-26-2019, 01:24 PM
Auction starts in about 2.5 hours.
NorCam
10-26-2019, 01:32 PM
Online link and live auction link. Starts later this morning
https://appletowing.hibid.com/catalog/185288/u-s--marshals--live---online-webcast--auction-10-26-2019/
Charley Lillard
10-26-2019, 04:49 PM
https://appletowing.hibid.com/webcast/185288/1/u-s--marshals--live---online-webcast--auction-10-26-2019/
Price Realized for the VIN #124379N635549 Yellow COPO Camaro is $131,500.00.
Lee Stewart
10-28-2019, 03:46 AM
The highly anticipated auction of 149 vehicles seized in a Ponzi scheme took place today in Woodland, California, and when the final tallies were counted, the U.S. Marshals Service had sold the vehicles for $8,233,825. Almost 3,500 bidders participated in the auction, which saw 148 of the 149 cars being auctioned off – a 1964 Mini Cooper was pulled due to issues with the car's VIN. Lots ranged from a $1,051,225 2018 Prevost Featherlite motorcoach down to a $4,000 Honda dirt bike. The proceeds of the auction will be placed into a seized asset account until after the court case against Jeff and Paulette Carpoff concludes. At which time, the U.S. Marshals Service says that this money could be made available as restitution to the defrauded victims.
rsinor
10-29-2019, 07:21 PM
WOW 68 GTX I was semi interested in sold for 92K? 69 charger 500 129K? Model A 2 door sedan 33K?
Who said cars were down!!!!
Several cars bid to over inflated pricing. The 68 chevelle $50,650? No way that is a mid to low 30's car all day. Why even bid when it was all stolen money that bought them.
WOW 68 GTX I was semi interested in sold for 92K? 69 charger 500 129K? Model A 2 door sedan 33K?
Who said cars were down!!!!
Common Roy, there are weekly threads about how our cars are worthless and no one will want them. :)
SuperNovaSS
11-01-2019, 10:40 PM
Several cars bid to over inflated pricing. The 68 chevelle $50,650? No way that is a mid to low 30's car all day. Why even bid when it was all stolen money that bought them.
Sean,
When you say, "Why even bid when it was all stolen money that bought them", what do you mean? The cars are still the same cars they were before they were bought will ill gotten cash and now the money recouped will go back the the victims. I must be missing something.
Jason
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