2023 Cadillac Escalade ESV AWD or GMC Yukon Denal Xl 4wd

[Big Block Bill]

Anyone have a contact within 250 miles of Chicago Illinois to purchase (That's on the ground or in Transit prior to 1/1/2023) a Loaded 2023 Cadillac Escalade ESV AWD in Black or a Loaded 2023 GMC Yukon Denali XL 4WD in Black at Window sticker $$$ ? If so, please PM me.

Thanks,
Bill

[COPO]

Can't go wrong with either of those choices, but slight tip to the Escalade especially the "V" edition with supercharged V-8 putting out 682 HP.

[Big Block Bill]

I agree, I've been driving Suburban's as a daily driver (I need a Locomotive because I have Bernese Mountain Dogs and a second home in Michigan) since 1978, then switched to Denali 's in 2015, and would like to get an Escalade ESV. I figure it will be $10,000 to $15,000 more, but I sure like to looks specially from the front.

It is amazing how rude car sales people have become lately. I stopped by the GMC dealer I purchased many vehicles from in the past from, including the Denali XL I am currently driving, and when I went to the "Sales Tower" I asked about a 2023 Yukon Denali XL, and 2 salesman just shrugged their shoulders like I was asking for Blood. One General Sales Manager at a local Cadillac dealer said you want to pay $15,000 over list?, I can get you one. My reply was I can get one in Indiana for list price right now and it's in stock but I don't want to drive 300 miles to get it, his was: Well why don't you check in Arizona as well? I truly think the pandemic has created a bunch of Monsters. Time will tell if this $10,000 plus over list price will ever end on anything new and popular. Hey, but I'm going to try. My Dog breeder in West Town New York named me "Patiently Persistent" 27 years ago so time will tell. Stay tuned.

Bill

[bergy]

I agree Bill - seems like friendly, helpful sales people are disappearing and entitled youngsters are taking their place. The vehicle shortages have created pri-madonnas who act like they are doing you a favor even talking to customers.

I traded my '18 Escalade in on a '22 Yukon Denalli diesel. Was fortunate to get my GM discount, but got beat up on the trade value. Checked with my Cadillac dealer first & they wouldn't honor my GM discount, plus wanted $10k over list for the Escalade. Check the difference in sticker price between loaded Yukon Denali and the loaded Escalade. As I recall - it's about $30-$40k more for the Escalade. All things considered - no way I was going with an Escalade.

[Billohio]

The chevy dealer I use makes some of these places look like a joke. Chevy already marked up the truck I trade for each year buy 5000 then these other dealers want over sticker. He traded me this summer for my year old truck for quite a bit under the 5000 they raised the truck price. The new truck was exactly like my 2021 but price was 5000 more on the sticker

[Canuck]

I ordered my 2021 Suburban High Country in Nov 2020. Only one dealer offered a discount. In total I got about $5500 off MSRP. When the vehicle was in transit in late January,the dealer called and offered me $10,000 off MSRP if I would release my order and place a new one. Apparently someone was willing to pay over List to get a vehicle NOW. I inquired how long I would have to wait if I re ordered and was told 6 months. I took my order and happy with it 22 months later. When you order now there are still features they can’t provide due to chip shortages.
The GMC dealer where I had bought 5 vehicles in 20 years from their associate dealers would not offer a dime off MSRP.

[Crush]

They all forget this is a short term situation and the day is going to come where the roles are reversed. I told the gentleman that I bought many cars from that exact thing and he just kind of shrugged his shoulders.

[dustinm]

Their volume down with the same amount of overhead... that money has to come from somewhere. Thats all I ever think about when I walk into big flashy dealerships. I'll take my small town GM dealer anyday, living out in the middle of nowhere does have some fringe benefits

[Big Block Bill]

Their volume down with the same amount of overhead... that money has to come from somewhere. Thats all I ever think about when I walk into big flashy dealerships. I'll take my small town GM dealer anyday, living out in the middle of nowhere does have some fringe benefits


I'm will to go up to 250 miles if needed

[Pro Stock John]

Maybe call into Chicago Motor Cars (ask for Mood) and Illinois Motors (ask for Regis) and see if they can locate one?

[Too Many Projects]

I'm will to go up to 250 miles if needed
You need to expand your horizons, Bill...:wink:
In 4-500 miles, you have at least 5 major metropolitan cities with multiple dealers. With freeway to most it's an 8 hour drive. Leave home at 2 am, be at the dealer around 10, buy the car, get lunch and you're home around 8 pm...piece of cake...:biggthumpup:

2 years ago, I was looking for a specific, USED, car in a specific color with front drive ONLY, no AWD.
I found it in Fort Meyers and brought it home when we went to Homosassa that Feb for vacation.

[Big Block Bill]

You need to expand your horizons, Bill...:wink:
In 4-500 miles, you have at least 5 major metropolitan cities with multiple dealers. With freeway to most it's an 8 hour drive. Leave home at 2 am, be at the dealer around 10, buy the car, get lunch and you're home around 8 pm...piece of cake...:biggthumpup:

2 years ago, I was looking for a specific, USED, car in a specific color with front drive ONLY, no AWD.
I found it in Fort Meyers and brought it home when we went to Homosassa that Feb for vacation.


I am calling Dealers as far away as Long Island New York, and nothing. Most All the Escalade ESV's that show up on the Cadillac.com web site as "In Transit" are Sold orders. I talked to a really nice Sales Manager at a dealer in Mt. Pleasant Mi. and he said Cadillac does that, Not the dealer. He will sell me a loaded one for window sticker, but It's Blue with light Parchment interior and I have my mind set on Black / Black. We'll see, I find more out from 3 local dealers this Tuesday.

Bill

[Too Many Projects]

Good for you on reaching out that far.

[Big Block Bill]

Well it took 6 weeks of dealing with some of the most worthless, rood Salesmen, But it's finally in my garage as of last Saturday. Bought it from Bill Newgent at Napleton Cadillac of Northbook Illinois and I could not be happier. What a GREAT Guy to work with. It has $15 K worth of options (Super Cruise, night vision, Radiant Package to name a few) I didn't want, but it is unbelievable. My Son Billy read that the 2023 Cadillac Escalade ESV is the most technical GM vehicle to date.

Bill

[69M22Z]

Beauty

[RPOLS3]

Congratulations - looks great.

[Bill Pritchard]

Glad you found one, hope it's as trouble-free as my '21 Tahoe has been.

[scuncio]

Congrats. Super Cruise is amazing.

[Crush]

Fits in your garage nicely! ThTs no small task

[Lynn]

Never mind.

Nice looking vehicle.

[olredalert]

----Love your new ride, Bill! With that said I hope that "most technical" part doesn't bite you in the a++! I have a few mid-2000's Mercedes that I can't figure out how to even program the clock. Would a knob be too much to ask? I probably would pay extra for a car or truck with less "tech", but then again some of my marbles may have already left the bowl!.....Bill S

[dykstra]

Looks great! Congrats!

[COPO]

What a sweet ride. Enjoy.

[Big Block Bill]

Well I love the new ride, but the Navigation has not worked for more than 3 days since I bought it. They have had it 3 times and it's going back in on Monday. They have replaced the SD card, the SD card holder, the radio, and programmed the software 3 times. I have a customer who bought an early 2023 Escalade and had the same problem. His was the SD card but it took 2 SD cards to fix it, me so far, I am not that lucky. Now GM wants the part number off the cable to the head unit. We'll see. I am not loosing faith as I understand being in the business, these are the growing pains with any new technology. The Saga continues, more to follow. Today I'll see how it pulls the Car Trailer. Bill

[Big Block Bill]

Well after 2 weeks in the Cadillac dealership, it looks to be fixed. The cables for the Navigation system have appeared to fix my problems. I've had it 2 months, and in those 2 months, the dealer had it 3 weeks, sounds fair right? They said they were going to "Do Something" for me, we'll see, but I'm not holding my breath. I still LOVE the truck! And like anything you Love, it's going to be testing your patience from time to time. Bill

[tjs44]

New Escalades are avail in just AWD?Everyone i have a do own are 2 wheel,AWD and 4WD?Tom

[Lynn]

I've had it 2 months, and in those 2 months, the dealer had it 3 weeks, sounds fair right?

Yeah, if it is a late 80s Jag.

[tjs44]

Mine is a 2019 and the only thing it has needed is a new battery 2 weeks ago.Tom

[Bill Pritchard]

Yeah, if it is a late 80s Jag.

If it was a late 80's Jag, the dealer would have had it for 7 weeks out of 2 months.

[Big Block Bill]

I had a 1986 Jaguar XJS V-12 Coupe so I appreciate the comparison. The dealer told me this 2023 Escalade has 310 different chips in it for what that's worth. In 45 years of playing with cars and trucks, I have never been afraid of technology, I get it. The dealer is going to bat for me and requesting Cadillac pay me for one month's car payment to make up for it. We'll see how that works for me. I'll report back on this if and when it happens. Bill

[muscle_collector]

in oklahoma if they have your vehicle for 30 consecutive days you can file lemon law. (unless they have changed it and i dont know it)

[Lynn]

Latest version:

D. It shall be presumed that a reasonable number of attempts have been undertaken to conform a motor vehicle to the applicable express warranties, if:

1. The same nonconformity has been subject to repair four or more times by the manufacturer or its agents or authorized dealers within the express warranty term or during the period of one (1) year following the date of original delivery of the motor vehicle to a consumer, whichever is the earlier date, but such nonconformity continues to exist; or

2. The vehicle is out of service by reason of repair for a cumulative total of thirty (30) business days during such term or during such period, whichever is the earlier date.