sYc Headrest logo's part II

[bkhpah]

We have just returned from the Chevelle-a-bration in TN today. One of the cars in attendance was the incredible 1100 mile Butternut Yellow Yenko bought new by a gentleman from Jack Douglas Chevrolet. It was a bench cloth seat car and was originally equipped with the sYc headrest decals from new. They had since fell off the car, but the glue marks were very much present. This has been a topic of some contoversy for some time. Also get this. The car was sold with 14X7 SS wheels, not the YH 15X7 rally wheels thought all sYc Chevelles received. He had the original window sticker and it clearly stated this. It had Firestones F-70-14's from new. He had wanted to buy another Yenko Chevelle with the top and rallyes, but it was already spoken for, so he bought the all yellow one. He also told me that a Hugger Orange Yenko Camaro with black stripes and a Daytona Yellow Camaro without stripes, but with emblems were there as well. The coolest part of all. He will be at the Super Car Reunion with this car. Also a very nice Orange COPO Chevelle is planning to attend. It pays to let people know. Rob, they will be calling to confirm with you...BKH

[William]

I'm not sure the Yenko/Jack Douglas Chev story is widely known or understood. The fact of the matter is Jack Douglas was ordering COPOs on his own. He purchased emblems and stripe kits from Yenko and sold the cars as Yenkos. A few of them are still around with paperwork and they are not on the Yenko inventory sheets. There is an automatic Yenko Camaro in Milwaukee built with a console, something Yenkos cars didn't have.

How many were done is not known. JD is still around but not talking.

[JoeC]

Brian, did this BY Yenko Chevelle have the COPO 9737 or 9562 numbers on the window sticker? Does he have the build sheet?

[Mr70]

Brian
How was the Chevell-abration? This Chevelle enthusiast could not attend so I am most curious for details.
I went last year with my car so I know the atmosphere.If this was your first time what is your over all opinion of it.
BTW-I live 3 miles from the Old Jack Douglas dealership in Hinsdale Ill.Long gone,but I am always looking for locals who remember his cars.Great Find!

[Belair62]

Brian this is an interesting topic. I hesitated to ask previously....In my conversation with original owner of my Yenko Chevelle he said it definitely DID NOT have SYC on headrests.VV Cook said they would order them for him if he wanted them but they never came in ....It may have been an oversight.

[bkhpah]

The car had all of its Yenko paperwork and POP etc. It is an authentic Yenko. As far as any cars Douglas may have done on his own, I cannot beleive that they would be considered real. William, As for a console equipped car, do you know what to look for to identify a factory installed one? And were are the clone Douglas cars with paper? As for the big Chevelle show it was very good and well run...BKH

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

BK;
Was Johnny and his L-Blue Y-Chevelle there?
M

[9566 BA]

I was at the chevellabration, the Dick Harrell 68 chevelle was awesome, a time capsule before your eyes very intresting car to look at. It is a very good show, alot of nice cars. Jeff

[Chevy454]

Brian:

Sounds like you and Joe had a busy weekend...answering questions about the Harrell car AND recruiting for the show! Thanks for the advertisement! I can't wait to see that A-body this fall!

Now, back to the Y-chevelle...was it wearing the rallys or SS wheels in TN? What trans was in the car? Anything else unusual about the car?


[Edited by Chevy454 (06-11-2001 at 03:47 PM).]

[William]

The Camaro has the rivnuts on the tunnel and has not been altered in any way.

There is at least one "Yenko" Camaro in Illinois that has paperwork back to Jack Douglas indicating it was sold as a Yenko even though it never spent the night in Cannonsburg. There are other Douglas COPOs around that did not get the Yenko treatment. It appears he sold COPOs, true Yenkos and his conversions, which were done with Yenkos knowledge.

Whether or not these Douglas Yenkos are considered the real thing is up to the big boys.

Ron Norman may have more info than I; he told me the story.

[bkhpah]

I am not a "Big Boy" but I would not call a Yenko a Yenko without paper back to Canonsburg. If Yenko gave him the green light to clone his own cars, I still would not consider it real. Would you consider a Yenko just a COPO Camaro? It is in a sense, but is a Yenko Sports Car from the start.

The Yenko Chevelle had its original SS wheels on at the show. It is a 4 speed car. It had an aluminum head 427 race motor in the car with all the usual speed parts, but the original 427 is still on a stand. It was very nice to see an originl paint Yenko Chevelle. Is there any other original paint survivors out there?

Jeff, I hope you can confirm with Rob that you will bring your super orange COPO Chevelle to the meet. An auto on the tree is cool to see...BKH

[COPO PETE]

Glad to hear Jeff brought his COPO Chevelle. Just another special order paint COPO from Central Chev in London Ont. Jeff's car and mine were shipped the same day to Central.
Peter

[COPO PETE]

This Jack Douglas Chev thing really got me thinking. I agree with Brian 100%. If I got a set of stripes or a dealer did and put them on my white COPO it would not be a Yenko!
And just then it hit me. If the guy with the "Yenko" in that Chevy Rumble mag(the white one). If he is not full of $hit and really the car did come that way...is it possible that this is a Jack Douglas car????!

[9566 BA]

I will be bringing my copo. I have not yet contacted Rob yet, I will do that today. I am looking foward to it. Jeff

[bkhpah]

The Chevy Rumble car seems to be a clone. Way to start out a new magazine Little Buckeroo. Look at the staff, old Super Chevy guys. No wonder there is no research done. Just grab an old article from another magazine and shove it down our throats as facts. MMM, BS sure tastes good!...BKH

[JoeC]

The article on the COPO Chevelles in May 2001 Car Collector magazine was written by Mike Mueller. He regurgitated that article from a Chevelle book he wrote in 1993. Same car same pictures same mistakes.

[Unreal]

I saw an orange COPO Chevelle in Ohio, a couple of years ago....Didn't check it for authenticity, just took the guy's word. (he wasn't selling, just talking) It was unrestored, un-repainted, Bench seat, column shift auto. Guy said he found the motor, and then located/purchased the car, and reunited them.

[Kurt S]

I just missed a double COPO (auto with console and tach only) that came out of Jack Douglas. No evidence of it being marked as a Yenko, but obviously he knew about both COPO's.
I heard that JD got permission from Yenko to market the cars, esp since he bought the stripes and decals from Yenko. Notice that JD only sold one Yenko PA Camaro in 69.
Since they had approval from Yenko, I'm not sure what that makes the cars........

[Mr70]

Call them a "Yenko Cousin" http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/burnout.gif Same family,different parents.

[Chevy454]

OK...dad and I were talking about the BY Chevelle mentioned above. Weren't the COPO Chevelles pretty much SS Chevelles minus stripes? Did the SS wheels come on the Chevelle via GM, or via Yenko? Also, did it have the usual Malibu emblems, steering wheel, etc. all around? Or SS?

Now, with that said, here are some links to some pictures someone from CB posted over at TC.

<FONT COLOR="#FF6600">Hugger Orange COPO Chevelle (http://www.bull-enterprises.com/dalesplace/images/chevelle_shows/aces2001/68-69/69_25.jpg)</FONT c>
<FONT COLOR="#FFFFCC">Butternut Yellow w/ vinyl top Yenko Chevelle (http://www.bull-enterprises.com/dalesplace/images/chevelle_shows/aces2001/68-69/69_24.jpg)</FONT c>
<FONT COLOR="#FFFFCC">Butternut Yellow Yenko Chevelle (http://www.bull-enterprises.com/dalesplace/images/chevelle_shows/aces2001/68-69/69_26.jpg)</FONT c>
<FONT COLOR="#CC0000">Red Harrell Chevelle (http://www.bull-enterprises.com/dalesplace/images/chevelle_shows/aces2001/68-69/68_19.jpg)</FONT c>
<FONT COLOR="#CC0000">Harrell Chevelle engine (http://www.bull-enterprises.com/dalesplace/images/chevelle_shows/aces2001/68-69/68_07.jpg)</FONT c>

[Edited by Chevy454 (06-13-2001 at 11:08 AM).]

[bkhpah]

The cars were basiclly SS cars with Malibu trim level. The Yenko 9737 package should have included the 15X7 rally wheels , but in his case it was not. It has SS 14X7 wheels with a Y center cap according to the original owner. This is the first time I have seen this. Mistakes do happen. SS wheels would be the standard on a COPO car with rallyes being an option. COPO Chevelles did not receive dogdish hubcaps and XT's like the Camaros. Joe C can shed more light on the Chevelles than I can. Perhaps the original WTGT's an rallys were stolen while at Yenko? This was not uncommon...BKH

[Chevy454]

So, SS wheels were standard on the 9562 COPO, unless the 9737 was ordered also, which replaced the SS wheels w/rallys...right? So, I am assuming his car is the "typical" Yenko Chevelle and came with 9737 also? Is the owner on the net by any chance? Sounds like we have some SERIOUS brain picking we need to do on him!

I will honestly say that I was having a hard imagining(sp?) the SS wheels on a Yenko Chevelle (I guess I am used to seeing them all wearing rallys), but I really like the look...not sure if I like it becuase it's something different, or if I actually like the SS wheels on it better.

[JoeC]

The COPO Chevelle is a little confusing because there are actually 10 different 9562 COPO numbers listed with different ECL codes. By comparison, the COPO Camaros only have two 9561 ECL codes. From what I can tell though, the COPO and Yenko Chevelles came down the line as an SS L78 car with the SS hood. On front they used the SS grill and short eyebrows, SS front signal lights, and SS side lights. On the rear quarter there is no "Malibu" emblem and on back they used the SS black paint and trim between the tail lights. No Malibu trim on the outside except the grill bowtie. The problem arose with the SS emblems. The SS Chevelle emblems on the grill, rear panel, door panels and dash read "SS 396" so they could not have been used with a 427 engine. The COPO paper work exchanged the front SS 396 emblem for a bowtie on the grill and deleted the SS 396 fender and rear panel emblems. Inside the COPO order swapped in the Malibu door panels and dash trim instead of the SS 396 trim. COPO Chevelles have been found using 1 of 3 different steering wheel emblems. The SS, the bowtie, and the Malibu. The most common wheels were the 14x7 SS wheel with the SS emblem. I know of one that came new with dog dish caps and of course the double COPO 9737 cars had 15x7 Rallys. Supposedly there is one documented COPO Chevelle that came through with the Malibu long front eyebrows and lower body trim but I have not seen it. This BY Yenko Chevelle from Douglas may have been a COPO Chevelle that Douglas put Yenko stripes on. A look at the build sheet will tell. As everyone knows, anything could have happened as far as factory mistakes, exchanges, or parts swapping by the dealer. Anyone know if this BY Yenko Chevelle is on the Yenko vin list? Still a great car weather it is a Yenko Chevelle or a Douglas built Yenko Chevelle.

[Chevy454]

Joe:

Good point about the ECL codes. As I was working on the site lately, I was looking at the Chevelle info, and it quickly got involved. Good question about it being on the list: Brian...did you get a chance to snag the VIN# & check? Did you get a good look at the paper work? Sorry for all the questions, but those A-bodies are what I love!

[Keith Tedford]

Our car came with the SS wheels and it was a COPO 9566AA car. BA being the automatic version. It had the full Malibu black vinyl interior and the blue bow tie on the steering wheel. The outside had all the SS black paint treatment and the extra cost D96 stripe. The only out side emblems was the Chevelle by Chevrolet on the header and the trunk lid. All the information on COPO, non-Yenko, cars that I have seen used this 9566AA code. More knowledgeable dealers better understood the ordering procedures and the various combinations that were available.

[bkhpah]

I took pictures of the Yenko window sticker, front and back. It has the hand typed Yenko sticker with a Yenko stock#. I will get the pictures developed today. I will be in total shock if this a Douglas sticker car. I doubt that those cars had a Yenko window sticker and stock number. It had POP as well. I will talk to the owner soon...BKH

[COPO]

An NICB search could also confirm the car was originally shipped to Yenko Chevrolet.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Brian;
If you talk to the owner, ask if he has his build sheet/broadcast sheet. GM typed the original dealer's name on the bottom of it/them.
M

[Chevy454]

Brian:

I added one of your Chevell-A-Bration recruits to the list last week (Jeff), but I got to thinking this morning...what's the word on the 2 Yenko Chevelles that were in Tenn. also? Were they local cars, or...? Any chance in getting them to make the trip to Collinsville?