Muscle Car Enthusiast Mag

[COPO427]

Guys,
I just picked up this mag and Unique Perf in Texas, Year 1 and Chip Foose will be making 69 Camaros (500) with 3 engine options. Starting price I believe I read was 150,000.

http://www.ccgdata.com/prodimg_zoom/1168-12.jpg

If I had the bucks, I'd hire the talent and go up against Foose and produce the same car for 1/2 the price. Looks like the artical aslo said they will be doing CUDAS, Chargers and Challengers. The 1st Camaro will be auctioned off at BJ in Scottsdale Az.

Does this mean the high dollar buyers who are buying stuff off BJ Auction will be collecting these instead and the muscle cars will drop in price so we can afford them?
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

[SamLBInj]

Is there really 500 people who would want to buy these? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif

[COPO427]

I bet they're all spoken for if you called for one. If only 500 are built and non in the future then I can see a person doubling their money in a few years. Better than Mutual Funds. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif

[COPO]

I doubt they will be good investments and will likely lose money over time. There have been so many specialty newer cars, SLP, Berger HotRod, Blackhawk, ZL-1, Dick Harrell, Dale Earnhardt, special anniversary Vettes, Camaros, etc, etc. 500 is a very large quantity for an expensive specialty car. Most of these are now selling below sticker. I would stick with the stock market for your "real" money and use cars for your play money. IMHO

[LVCamaro]

Good advice, IMO

SS

[sYc]

All we have to do is look at the AC Cobra. The real ones continue to appreciate, while all others depreciate.

[PPPJJJFFF]

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I doubt they will be good investments and will likely lose money over time. There have been so many specialty newer cars, SLP, Berger HotRod, Blackhawk, ZL-1, Dick Harrell, Dale Earnhardt, special anniversary Vettes, Camaros, etc, etc. 500 is a very large quantity for an expensive specialty car. Most of these are now selling below sticker. I would stick with the stock market for your "real" money and use cars for your play money. IMHO

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My thoughts exactly! Anyone want to buy a "Eleanor"? Patrick

[Jeff Murphy]

The Eleanors are made by the same guys as will make the Foose cars. I understand from a well-informed source that the finish on these cars is not good. It may not be the case for the Foose cars, since his name is on them...

These things all seem to straddle the line between "Oooh, I own a highly customised Foose/Shelby at a lot lower price than a one off/original" = "affordable" Foose and "Man this quasi-mass produced Foose/Shelby sure is expensive" = still too damned expensive to drive around on a daily basis http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[jeff-san]

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All we have to do is look at the AC Cobra. The real ones continue to appreciate, while all others depreciate.

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I agree with you here Tom...since they made so few Yenkos, COPOS, Big Red, Mules etc...the copy cat cars to follow will only highlight how truly valuable the originals are. Over time the clones will continue to pop up and sell for big money only to push the originals to higher and higher price levels.

[Canucklehead]

I see those UP eleanor cars on e-bay used and there not fetching close to the money that they were new. I priced a super snake ragtop out last year and it was approching the $250k mark pretty quick with all the adds. The first one they made went for $500k at BJ. I don't think there will be a line-up for that one when he resells it. The super snake they made for the baseball player from "rides" is now on e-bay and i think it ended at around 110k!!. Even a base eleanor is somewhere around $150k. Theres quite a few dealers making those cars now and i think the market is getting saturated with them and thats why unique is moving on.
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2005/07/09/137129.html

[Canucklehead]

They're also doing this...
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2005/08/19/140684.html

[COPO427]

here's a pic and description of the stang

http://www.autoblog.com/entry/1234000960055736/

http://www.weblogsinc.com/common/images/0411853530785042.JPG?0.3428258369087479

[Keith Tedford]

Back in the '60s I believe a Toronto dealer dressed up some Mustangs and called them Stallions. Don't know the particulars.

[camarojoe]

I've always believed that cars designed and built to be "collectible" are destined to be bad investments over the long haul... Its the stuff people DIDN'T cherish and save in large quantities that end up being worth a ton of money in later years... If everyone who bought a 69 ZL1 (only 69 made) would have left the window stickers in them and put them in dry climate controlled storage without driving them for 30 years, would they be worth as much as they are today? I doubt it... the fact they they were pounded on, cut up, raced, butchered, wrecked, and generally used and abused is what makes mint originals worth so much today... the fact that they WEREN'T collectible when they were built is what makes them "precious" today. As long as everyone buying something keeps it perfect and "collects" it, the value will never go up as a "collectible" and will actually depriciate as something newer and "more collectible" is introduced and these same folks want out of their previous "investment". An example that comes to mind is my 97 Camaro 30th Anniversary SS, one of "only" 100 or so built without T tops and with the 6 speed , but I could find 6 more exactly like it, with ultra low miles and all the paperwork etc. easier than I could find a mint condition "standard issue" run-of the-mill Z28 from the same year, in which they built 1000's of... The reason is, everyone who bought the 30th Anny cars, pace cars, limited edition this and that, etc... because they were 'collectible" and stashed them away for 10 years never enjoying or driving them, while everyone else went out and hammered on their "regular" z's, racking up miles and had fun with them. Now all those cars have 100K+ miles, been hit and painted and dented, and generally just worn out. Very few standard Z28s have survived in mint shape. In actuality, THOSE cars are rarer than the "limited edition" Anniversary editions are today. Moral of the story, if you are buying a new car marketed as "collectible" you're probably gonna lose your a$$ eventually. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[COPO427]

And of course Jack Roush is doing new stangs too.

[coke69Z11]

And I read somewhere in the last day or two about the "new" Baldwin-Motion car. All these new cars will sell, and make money. Hey they brought back the VW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[rpoz11]

What a joke! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsdown.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

I'd rather see Stubbings do it right and see the buyers do what they want with them afterwards!