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rickp
10-29-2006, 08:03 PM
I'm interested in any thoughts, opinions on what a real 1969 Yenko Nova would sell for. As a follow up I'm curious on what a 1969 Yenko Nova recreation aka clone, having all the correct equipment, except having come from Yenko Chevrolet and starting life as a 6cyl car is worth. This car is an exact replica of what is considered to be the first Yenko Nova built, it is even an original Garnet Red car. There is a hardback book,"Musclecar Chronical" that has an excellect depiction of this car on page 206. I'm looking for some honest evaluation bearing in mind this clone has the correct 512/ ce replacement block, etc. I would offer that it is probably the nicest 1969 Yenko Clone in existence. I'm not expecting you experts to be interested, but consider a normal person who wanted one of these cars, that are not available. Would $95,000 be out of the question. Just for the record I am also one of the numbers matching nuts, and have been into the numbers long before most of you experts. I was checking numbers in 1971, using the 1969 dealer parts book (which I still have today),on my factory 1969 bare bones, Glacier Blue L-78 Nova with factory M-22.

Thanks, Rick

MosportGreen66
10-29-2006, 08:48 PM
you would be paying $95,000 for a 6cyl Nova with a 427?
Makes no logical sense to me. What is a plane jane worth?
$10,000? Yenko paper maybe $12,000?

I would pass.
-Dan

mnyenko
10-29-2006, 08:59 PM
If the nova had started life as a L78. Then converted to 427. An original Yenko color on trim tag. With smog etc... You may be able to get L78 type money at $65,000. Starting with a six cylinder vin car. It may bring Yenko camaro clone money of around $25,000 if it is nice. Earl

@wot
10-29-2006, 09:20 PM
You can build one for a third of that price. Better yet, buy a real, documented L78 Nova.

Stefano
10-29-2006, 10:03 PM
It has a lot to do with several components, one being the instrinsic value of the underlying car.

The example of the L78 is a very good one. Lets say/assume that the value difference of a 6 cly Nova vs an L78 car for car is $50k, then you could expect a majority of that value to carry over to the cloned/modified car.

This is a very similar comparison to Tom's situation with the GTO Judge with RAIV parts added.

Did anyone look over the one which just sold at the last Mecum Auction?

LS6 RAT
10-29-2006, 11:07 PM
Rick,

My way of analyzing a clones value would be what the proper component pieces are worth (valued at fair market) to recreate a much rarer optioned out model.

I believe most car enthusiasts could have a L72 engine with proper casting parts and dated correctly assembled for at least the $15,000 price range. A heavy duty Muncie M22 transmission should be able to be purchased for $2500 anyway. A correct BE coded heavy duty rear axle complete assembly should run maybe $5000.00. So if a Nova was purchased and these components added along with periphere pieces needed. I would think that the proper mechanical pieces might run $24,000 on top of a cars purchase price. I think the $95,000 price tag is definitely high! You should be able to duplicate a 427 Nova for around $40,000 anyway I would think.

Chevy454
10-29-2006, 11:09 PM
The '69 Yenko Novas didn't get the 'BE' rear, so you can knock another 5 g's off that price...I agree with about everything else said above so far...it may look like a Yenko, but it's still just a 6-cylinder car. Rich, you've gotten too used to seeing those $100k+ Hemi Cuda clones... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

LS6 RAT
10-29-2006, 11:12 PM
Thanks, Rob.

shor
10-30-2006, 01:37 AM
rob, its rick, not rich

Salvatore
10-30-2006, 02:42 AM
Rick, Why not just a real nice L78 nova? There are a couple people on this site that have REAL nice ones for sale. They cost way less and they are REAL cars! Its like a NO brainer. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

John
10-30-2006, 03:10 AM
...and a few years down the road ...
.....you can make money
......on the "Real" cars...
...
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif

kwhizz
10-30-2006, 03:20 AM
Stefano has one of the nicest "Real" ones around for sale at 2/3 the cost of the Clone http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif.......Check it out.......

Ken http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

Salvatore
10-30-2006, 03:33 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Stefano has one of the nicest "Real" ones around for sale at 2/3 the cost of the Clone http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif.......Check it out..... Ken http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[/ QUOTE ]Stefano and Tommy Williams were who I was thinking of.

Stuart Adams
10-30-2006, 05:13 AM
I agree, that Nova Stefano is selling is very nice.

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY
10-30-2006, 04:58 PM
Real '69 Yenko Nova = $1M+

Clone '69 Yenko Nova - best case scenario = $45k, mostly for the drivetrain and good sheetmetal/paint.

JMO http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

rickp
10-30-2006, 07:20 PM
Gentlemen, I appreciate all of the input. I'm surprized at some of the low prices for parts, restoration, etc.,offered. I may be more out of touch than I thought. I guess my 1969 L-34 Nova (missing original drive train) is worth restoring. I just hope I can find the cheap restoration shops and parts that you guys are offering. I'm wondering if you're all figuring no or minimal labor costs (doing all work by ones self). I guess that could relate to what I think are very low prices. I thought some of the Barrett-Jackson Yenko Camaro clones were in the $100,000 range, but I could be wrong.

Thanks, Rick

@wot
10-30-2006, 07:36 PM
Does B-J pricing really represent what collectible autos trade for? I would buy your L34 all day long before buying a $95K Yenko Nova clone.

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY
10-30-2006, 07:48 PM
Not many people will hire a top notch resto shop to perform a $60k resto on a clone car, and most top notch resto shops won't do it anyway. So, most clone cars will go the cheap route, in more ways than one. Most clone cars are not really clones, they are nice cars with stripes - and are 'usually' priced accordingly. BJ is not the barometer to use, unless you intend to build the car to sell at that particular venue.

Dean is correct, a real enthusiast would stand on the hood of the clone car to get a better look at your L34.

ORIGLS6
10-30-2006, 08:27 PM
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Dean is correct, a real enthusiast would stand on the hood of the clone car to get a better look at your L34.

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http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

mnyenko
10-30-2006, 11:33 PM
The prices look low. Because they are the answer to what would the car be worth. Not what it would cost to build. Two very different things. Earl

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY
10-31-2006, 12:12 AM
[ QUOTE ]
The prices look low. Because they are the answer to what would the car be worth. Not what it would cost to build. Two very different things. Earl

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Excellent point! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif

quick-bowtie
10-31-2006, 03:59 AM
Ive personally never seen a Yenko Camaro Clone bring 100k and if it did Im sure alot of booze was involved! ZL1 clones have brought 100k and just over maybe that is what you were thinking of. As far as restoring/building one DONT DO IT, you will lose you butt when it comes time to sell. If you look you can find a very nice restored Camaro/Nova plain jane car for under 30k, then pick up the phone and get all the stripes and emblems from Classic industries, buy a 427 Crate motor and 12 bolt and boom you have a nice clone for under 40k.

427rcode
11-01-2006, 05:44 AM
RICK

THERE ARE NO REAL 69 YENKOS FOR SALE THEY VERY RARELY CHANGE HANDS.I BELIEVE THE LAST ONE TO CHANGE HANDS WAS MY FRIEND DICK BRIDGES.I DONT THINK THERE ARE ANY HERE THAT OWN A REAL 69 YENKO BUT MAYBE IM WRONG .IT SEEMS THAT THE PRICE WHICH I KNOW WAS EXTEMELY HIGH .I DONT THINKS MANY WILL EVER CHANGE HANDS.GOOD LUCK ILL CHECK WITH CHIP AND REGGIE TO SEE WHATS AROUND

Belair62
11-01-2006, 05:47 AM
I think you may be mistaken Ralp !! There just may be a real one or two around here...

Xplantdad
11-01-2006, 05:52 AM
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I think you may be mistaken Ralp !! There just may be a real one or two around here...

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Yeppers...here's one!

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b156/lotsayenkopics/Private%20Collection/tn_DSCF3279.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b156/lotsayenkopics/Private%20Collection/tn_DSCF3280.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b156/lotsayenkopics/Private%20Collection/tn_DSCF3281.jpg

427rcode
11-01-2006, 05:53 AM
DID YOU READ I SAID MAYBE IM WRONG.SO HOW CAN I BE MISTAKEN.I WOULD HOPE THERE IS ONE OR TWO IN HERE.I BELIEVE THERE ARE ONLY 9 ACCOUNTED FOR ,CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG
THANKS

427rcode
11-01-2006, 05:55 AM
VERY NICE CAR

Belair62
11-01-2006, 05:56 AM
I was talking to Ralp !!! Can't read or spell. Shut the caps off you're blinding me !

Xplantdad
11-01-2006, 05:57 AM
Not mine...but you're right it's a very nice car! There are a few more lurking around here, too...Like Gags said http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

427rcode
11-01-2006, 05:58 AM
SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS 16 YRS OF CATHOLIC SCHOOL LOL

Xplantdad
11-01-2006, 05:58 AM
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I was talking to Ralp !!! Can't read or spell. Shut the caps off you're blinding me !

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http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

ORIGLS6
11-01-2006, 06:00 AM
Nine's a pretty good number. Seems like I've seen four of them in ............. let's say, the past three months. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Chevy454
11-01-2006, 06:04 AM
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DID YOU READ I SAID MAYBE IM WRONG.SO HOW CAN I BE MISTAKEN.I WOULD HOPE THERE IS ONE OR TWO IN HERE.I BELIEVE THERE ARE ONLY 9 ACCOUNTED FOR ,CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG


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If my hillbilly math is correct, 2/3 of that number reside with folks from this site...

Xplantdad
11-01-2006, 06:06 AM
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Nine's a pretty good number. Seems like I've seen four of them in ............. let's say, the past three months. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

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Hey...I think I saw them too....one, two, three and four...yep! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

427rcode
11-01-2006, 06:07 AM
THEY SHOULD ITS A YENKO SITE ISNT IT.BY THE WAY WHAT IS HILLBILLY MATH LOL

sYc
11-01-2006, 06:15 AM
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Nine's a pretty good number. Seems like I've seen four of them in ............. let's say, the past three months. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

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I was talking to one of the owners yesterday. We hope to top that number(4) at SCR10, maybe one of each color.

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY
11-01-2006, 04:34 PM
Ralph, stop putting your foot in your mouth, geeeez.... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

They sell under the radar, but they do change hands - Dick's car sold at a bargain compared to today's prices http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif There are 9 cars found, 1 is a later conversion and is a loaded car with special paint. The remaining 8 cars are; 2 F-Green, 2 R-Green, 2 G-Red, & 2 L-Blue. We've heard lots of rumours out there of a few more, but nothing has materialized.

SS427
11-01-2006, 08:33 PM
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Ralph,
There is this little button on the left of your keyboard, third from the bottom, labled "Caps Lock". Any chance you might try pushing it again?

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Seems like I remember this from somewhere else. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

Say hi to Dick, Chip and Reggie for me. All good guys who I haven't talked to for quite some time.
Rick

427rcode
11-01-2006, 09:28 PM
I Guess 9 was a good number.if there are any for sale let me know,I cant wait to meet some of you
Good Luck

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY
11-01-2006, 09:34 PM
There is one that has a price on it - for when the owner decides what he would like to do.

Good luck to you as well - I guess http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

69hurstSC
11-02-2006, 01:51 AM
...still drooling over pics from previous page. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Can-I-Have-It.gif

will
11-03-2006, 07:40 PM
so who's car is above? I thought RJ's was packed door handle to door handle is KH's car?

just like to lable any new pic's added to my wish list http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif