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Drunk drivers are scumbags who deserve to lose the "right" to transport themselves by automobile. A long time ago I did a ride-a-long project with the police in my college town as part of my sociology class. While I saw a lot of disturbing and eye-opening situations, by the far the worst thing I experienced was rolling up to a "one car" accident in a neighboring town. The alcoholic woman driving the car had veered off the road and hit a chain link fence square on. In the passenger seat was her 14 year old daughter. I say "was" because the top rail careened through the car and killed the little girl instantly. The mother was so drunk she didn't understand what had happened. It was a scene so disturbing (I won't get graphic) that veteran officers were reduced to weeping and/or tossing their lunch. Before that evening, I was determined to enter law enforcement. After this experience, I gave up the idea of getting into law enforcement because I knew those types of calls would be brutal to contend with. However, to this day if I see someone on the road driving in a way that appears impaired, I will follow the offender and call local authorities on my cell. It's very satisfying to me when the blues roll up and pull the prospective drunk over. I keep hoping I saved someone's wife, husband, son or daughter from getting killed. We simply don't do enough as a society to stop these people from repeating their crime over and over with little or no punishment.

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I do the same thing. I like a good beer or two myself but either have them at home or let my wife drive.

I do agree with Mark's statement above though. The car should be impounded but not sold off and the money given to the state. It belonged to him and or his family.

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Yes, I wouldn't take the man's car either, but if he's a bona-fide drunk driver, the penalties should be harsh.

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Drunk drivers are a poison to us all. You wanna get plastered, knock yourself out, I've been known to tip a Pabst or two myself. But I know when to say when..

for those who don't AND PUT ALL OF AT RISK, take their godamn split window coupes away...they won't need it anyway..their license should be toast too.

And by the way Mark..I know exactly who I am.

And I don't drink and drive.

But this is getting too political [I guess] and there are other places to fight this one out..so I'm done.

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Jim quick question. What if you had two beers with in a hour & was driving home. All of the sudden a van with three childern in it runs thru a stop sign and hits you. Now you were not at fault, but you are charged with a DUI. Three days later the youngest child in that cars dies from the injuries from the accident. Guess what!! YOU are now charged with Manslaugter. Mim. time in prison is 25 years. That is how some states work, Iowa does. The mother driving the van ran the stop sign totally at fault, too bad your SCREWED. Now tell me that's right!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...thumbsdown.gif

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amen.. They deserve to lose the car AND the privilege to drive again

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Drunk drivers are scumbags who deserve to lose the "right" to transport themselves by automobile. A long time ago I did a ride-a-long project with the police in my college town as part of my sociology class. While I saw a lot of disturbing and eye-opening situations, by the far the worst thing I experienced was rolling up to a "one car" accident in a neighboring town. The alcoholic woman driving the car had veered off the road and hit a chain link fence square on. In the passenger seat was her 14 year old daughter. I say "was" because the top rail careened through the car and killed the little girl instantly. The mother was so drunk she didn't understand what had happened. It was a scene so disturbing (I won't get graphic) that veteran officers were reduced to weeping and/or tossing their lunch. Before that evening, I was determined to enter law enforcement. After this experience, I gave up the idea of getting into law enforcement because I knew those types of calls would be brutal to contend with. However, to this day if I see someone on the road driving in a way that appears impaired, I will follow the offender and call local authorities on my cell. It's very satisfying to me when the blues roll up and pull the prospective drunk over. I keep hoping I saved someone's wife, husband, son or daughter from getting killed. We simply don't do enough as a society to stop these people from repeating their crime over and over with little or no punishment.

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No Kim, that's not right but what does that have to do with this multiple offender getting his car taken away OR what I had to say about it?

Certainly, with the THOUSANDS of DUI case in this country a year there will be some that are not only unfair, but where the accused is just innocent.

In my post I said a car should be taken from repeat offenders. Certainly I'm not the only person who thinks this way...of course your scenario seems unfair but I seriously doubt two beers would but you over .8 .

But,there will ALWAYS be injustices...but that does not mean we should lower everything to the lowest common denominator. [because some guy gets screwed and wasn't guilty we let everybody off.]

And of course, there are many different opinions on this matter.

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.8 two beers an hour will put you pass legal limit. I know, I have been there. I was stopped 7 years ago. I blew barely over. I refused the test {long story} I walked one year. No lic. to drive. I don't consider myself a SCUMBAG. Yes you are right, the mulitiple offense people belong in rehab & or jail. The in some states are very relaxed and some very harsh. In Iowa you can kill several people and spend less time in prison than some first off. owi with injuries involved. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif

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Kim, just to set the record straight...I never called anyone a scumbag...that was someone else.

A question...you said you barely blew over and then said you refused the test [??] In Iowa you can take the test then somehow..refuse it?

I know my lawyer friend told me to NEVER, EVER take the test..once you do [and fail ]you are screwed..

But he says..no matter how drunk you are..if you don't take the test he will get you off [mass] of course get ready to pony up $40,000...might as well take the Vette...

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Here in Ontario Canada I believe refusal to blow is automatically considered the same as blowing over plus maybe an additional fine too?.

Our first offence gets a one year suspension plus a subsequent year of driving a 'blowmobile'...your car w/ an approximate $3000.00 blow monitor ignition-disabler device, rental/installation/maintenance at your cost..

The only way around the 'blowmobile' thing is running the two full years without driving or you can motorbike for the second year being there's no blow machines for bikes yet?.

Snowmobiling/4 Wheeling on our Provincial trail systems is well monitored by the Police and considered the same as being on the roads here so you can lose your licence or be nabbed running under suspension on a weekend w/ the boys!.

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