Re: 2013 GT500 most powerful OEM v8 in the WORLD
 

Having always been a GM man, I bought my first Ford in a long time when we got an '08 Navigator.

So far, not real impressed with their interior materials quality, mechanicals (bad fuel pump at 50k miles, bad motor in the running board at 45k miles, bizarre transmission shifts, etc.), and body fit on a vehicle that originally cost $60k?

I sure hope the 'Stangs are built better...

Re: 2013 GT500 most powerful OEM v8 in the WORLD
 

The Mustangs have the highest quality of any new pony car according to all the info I see.. I have one.. Its well built, fast, gets great mileage, handles/stops great.. I was a GM guy for 45+ years..

BTW- the 5.4 Shelby motors can take 750 hp with ease. No internal work to achieve those hp levels.

Re: 2013 GT500 most powerful OEM v8 in the WORLD
 

I'm not sure I could argue any one of the pony cars had any real measurable quality over the other.
Pretty sure there are/were some serious issues with manual transmissions on the regular 5.0 cars. My point is that they are all far from perfect.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: flyingn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Mustangs have the highest quality of any new pony car according to all the info I see.. I have one.. Its well built, fast, gets great mileage, handles/stops great.. I was a GM guy for 45+ years..

BTW- the 5.4 Shelby motors can take 750 hp with ease. No internal work to achieve those hp levels. </div></div>

Re: 2013 GT500 most powerful OEM v8 in the WORLD
 

Look forward to seeing reading hearing some real world test results

Re: 2013 GT500 most powerful OEM v8 in the WORLD
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Big Block Bill</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes, High School WAS a long time ago. I agree the Shelby is a beautiful car but being a Ford : &quot;Sometime in your ownership you WILL have the heads off it&quot; probably because the seats fell out of them or the head gaskets leak. I am sure there will be a long line of people willing to pay $5/10,000 over list for the first ones off the line. I admit the car is very cool looking.

Bill </div></div>

I've never had those issues with a Ford, Cleveland, Windsor, Modular or otherwise. At least no more so than I've had with Chevrolets or Mopars.

Just spent the past two years hitting a 190,000 original mile, untouched 85 Mustang GT with a 150 shot every weekend with zero issues. Sold it this fall and the new owner is doing the same thing. And that's far from the first time I've pumped enough nitrous through a stock, high mileage small block Ford to send it into orbit with no negative results.

I'm not sure where you get the &quot;you WILL have the heads off&quot; thing from, but 20 years of extensive experience with late model Ford V-8s tells me you've been misinformed. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img]

Re: 2013 GT500 most powerful OEM v8 in the WORLD
 

I think the ZL1 2012 camraro is the Most Powerful Production V8 in the World as of today 750hp ad over 620 ft lbs torque,Ford would have a hard time to beat this beast

Re: 2013 GT500 most powerful OEM v8 in the WORLD
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Norm reynolds</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think the ZL1 2012 camraro is the Most Powerful Production V8 in the World as of today 750hp ad over 620 ft lbs torque,Ford would have a hard time to beat this beast
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Yes,but if they only make i think 69 of them it does not count as a regular production car.

Re: 2013 GT500 most powerful OEM v8 in the WORLD
 

I thought the ZL1 was at 580?

the ZL1's supercharged, 6.2-liter LSA V8, which is rated at 580 horsepower and 556 pound-feet of torque

Re: 2013 GT500 most powerful OEM v8 in the WORLD
 

ZL1 rated at 750 up
1or 69 cars stil one fast beast
what I learned a long time ago
NERVER make a statement about the fastest car on the
planet there is always some one that has a car just a little faster
remember in the day when the Buick GNX was supost
to be top dog how many were really that fast

Re: 2013 GT500 most powerful OEM v8 in the WORLD
 

Let the war begin.
I have been a GM guy for over 40 years and after buying a new GT 500 back in 2007 i would not trade my good looking GT 500 for any Camaro.
GM can stuff all the Horse power they want into the camaro but it will never look as good as a GT 500.
Below is a photo of the New 2013 GT 500 and my 2007 GT 500.