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firstgenaddict 07-11-2010 07:24 PM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mockingbird812</div><div class="ubbcode-body">James - VERY, VERY nice attention to detail. Love your history [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/scholar.gif[/img] lesson here. Keep your photo chronology coming. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] </div></div>

Thanks Sam, I am an Artist (draw and paint) and for some reason I seem to be able to mix colors to achieve the exact finish(shade, color, tint, etc) I am seeking.
I like things to not only look correct where you see, I like them to look right when you take it apart to service the vehicle. I dislike taking things apart and finding whole inner doors painted body color or tape lines everywhere, whole underdashes painted black etc OR painted/NASTY Window regulators, makes me wonder what other short cuts were taken?
Ideally when I restore a car I would like it to gain the patina the original finishes gained through time, however on a much less aggressive (retarded) basis, if we restored cars as they left the factory, (even using 50 year old technology) and took care of them as WE do, they would last hundreds of years.

scuncio 07-11-2010 07:41 PM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: firstgenaddict</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How's that Monaco Orange <span style="font-style: italic">stripper</span> Chevelle coming along Tony? </div></div>

Slowly...still accumulating parts...although I did replace these sweet wheels that were on the car when I dragged it home. ;-)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3211/...3c9f7dbf0b.jpg

firstgenaddict 07-12-2010 02:43 AM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 
I'd rather be restoring that one... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif[/img]

mockingbird812 07-12-2010 02:44 AM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 
What's the story on the &quot;stripper Chevelle&quot;?

scuncio 07-12-2010 04:06 AM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 
It's a COPO 427 car that spent most of its life in Ypsilanti, MI. Was in a shed from 1971-2005 and needs pretty much everything. It has about 9800 miles on the odo but you'd never know it!

mockingbird812 07-12-2010 04:33 AM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 
Wonderful Tony and Congrats! Please keep us posted. Monaco Orange COPO Chevelle - Wow!! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif[/img]

scuncio 07-12-2010 05:28 PM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 
Thanks, I have owned it for a couple of years but haven't done much of anything to it yet.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3032/...996080fb_b.jpg

firstgenaddict 07-18-2010 02:45 AM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 
Tony is it a Malibu Trimmed car like George's Daytona Yellow Car?
Would be Bad A$$ with silver at the bottom, if it were correct!

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbt...481#Post156481

scuncio 07-22-2010 02:59 AM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 
No, this one is all orange with a white side stripe. Most of the original paint is still there under the flaking white. Honestly I wish it was a different color but it will go back to the original color combo anyway.

firstgenaddict 07-25-2010 01:05 AM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 
Package Tray Moulding

http://inlinethumb17.webshots.com/28...500x500Q85.jpg


Drivers Door Glass (Prior to Dec the original Glass has no DOT markings)

http://inlinethumb63.webshots.com/45...500x500Q85.jpg


Drivers Quarter Glass

http://inlinethumb40.webshots.com/44...500x500Q85.jpg


Pass Quarter Glass

http://inlinethumb16.webshots.com/31...500x500Q85.jpg


Pass Door Glass

http://inlinethumb51.webshots.com/45...500x500Q85.jpg

scuncio 07-25-2010 01:32 AM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 
Cool! I guess that Z didn't have have tinted glass. Looks neat that way.

firstgenaddict 07-25-2010 01:41 AM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 
Nope the dates are for Sept and Oct of 68.

Born30YrsLate 07-27-2010 01:38 PM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 
How does a person tell the date code on glass?...never had to do it so never learned it...great resto work!

m22mike 07-27-2010 02:27 PM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 
Fred
Check this out.

http://www.camaros.org/glass.shtml

Mike

firstgenaddict 09-11-2010 12:16 AM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 
More...
Refinished Original dust shield spring steel retainers
http://inlinethumb32.webshots.com/47...500x500Q85.jpg

Reproduction VS ORIGINAL door bumpers

http://inlinethumb47.webshots.com/11...500x500Q85.jpg

Original on Left --- Repro on right
http://inlinethumb31.webshots.com/46...500x500Q85.jpg


Dash cluster - 51,486 miles
http://inlinethumb28.webshots.com/47...500x500Q85.jpg

Original alpha code sticker on Steering Column
[img]http://inlinethumb18.webshots.com/45...500x500Q85.jpg[/img

Door handles and locks installed, wow the seals must be trimmed significantly so they won't squeeze out the sides!
http://inlinethumb24.webshots.com/45...500x500Q85.jpg

Original Kraft Door watershields
http://inlinethumb35.webshots.com/47...500x500Q85.jpg

Pass rear &quot;door&quot; panel dates
http://inlinethumb26.webshots.com/15...500x500Q85.jpg


Interior Very close now...
http://inlinethumb18.webshots.com/45...500x500Q85.jpg

Rear Driver side
http://inlinethumb18.webshots.com/45...500x500Q85.jpg

mockingbird812 09-11-2010 12:50 AM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 
Looks just great James. Thanks for the updates.

My thots on repros: the company &quot;attempting&quot; a repro makes the conscious effort [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif[/img] to first determine the total number of ways they will deviate from a correct original piece and then they multiply that by a factor of at least 7. That way they ensure that the piece will only look like it could possibly fit so that they get the poor unsuspecting sap to buy the worthless piece of sh*t. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/no.gif[/img]

There - that feels better now. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/eek.gif[/img]

firstgenaddict 09-11-2010 01:05 AM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 
The problem is that the person approving the prototype for production never has to use the piece.

firstgenaddict 10-16-2010 03:54 AM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 
We moved the car this week to get ready for the Drive train and dog house.... Interior is VERY close to done!

http://inlinethumb40.webshots.com/47...500x500Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb42.webshots.com/45...500x500Q85.jpg


http://inlinethumb52.webshots.com/45...500x500Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb52.webshots.com/19...500x500Q85.jpg

iluv69s 10-16-2010 12:47 PM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: firstgenaddict</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Inside floors and inner doors

http://inlinethumb47.webshots.com/43...600x600Q85.jpg


Original Dated Floor Pan Plugs


are my floor plugs installed upside down??..or is this an optical illusion and the plug just 'looks' to be protruding upward?? </div></div>

firstgenaddict 10-16-2010 03:58 PM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 
No illusion, it's protruding &quot;UP&quot;.

SS427 10-17-2010 12:17 AM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 
They are installed correctly.

firstgenaddict 11-14-2010 01:18 AM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 

Progress Progress Progress

http://inlinethumb14.webshots.com/48...500x500Q85.jpg

The Digits

http://inlinethumb52.webshots.com/46...500x500Q85.jpg


Eric Jackson's Artwork...

http://inlinethumb59.webshots.com/23...500x500Q85.jpg

scuncio 11-24-2010 10:18 PM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 
Very nice.

mockingbird812 11-24-2010 10:36 PM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 
Nice indeed! Bring this blue baby to MCACN next year! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]

Salvatore 11-24-2010 11:35 PM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 
Car is looking real good James!

restore-z28 01-02-2011 09:17 PM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 
The cars looks great and will be a head turner when it's done.

firstgenaddict 02-27-2011 09:32 PM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 
http://inlinethumb52.webshots.com/45...500x500Q85.jpg


http://inlinethumb53.webshots.com/47...500x500Q85.jpg


http://inlinethumb61.webshots.com/44...500x500Q85.jpg


http://inlinethumb35.webshots.com/45...500x500Q85.jpg

mockingbird812 02-27-2011 10:42 PM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 
Real nice James!! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Salvatore 02-28-2011 01:14 AM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 
I love it. Keep the pictures coming!

scoolbus70 03-18-2011 11:49 AM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 
very nice!!!!

firstgenaddict 05-26-2011 08:02 PM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 
Just ordered a LOF front glass from Pilkington Classic Division which owns LOF and claims to be using original patterns/molds.

Side note: They also said on the Soft Ray glass theirs is green Soft Ray not blue.
Anyone dealt with them before?

Glass, Date coded, and shipping $350
Not too bad if it is CORRECT!!!

Will update with photos when it arrives...

firstgenaddict 08-29-2011 11:21 PM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 
ore...
http://inlinethumb01.webshots.com/46...500x500Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb35.webshots.com/47...500x500Q85.jpg


http://inlinethumb34.webshots.com/49...500x500Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb45.webshots.com/83...500x500Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb62.webshots.com/46...500x500Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb20.webshots.com/46...500x500Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb14.webshots.com/90...500x500Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb36.webshots.com/48...500x500Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb17.webshots.com/46...500x500Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb19.webshots.com/46...500x500Q85.jpg

Salvatore 08-30-2011 12:47 AM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 
real nice James. I used their glass in the front and back of my 69. Looks real nice and correct to me. Looks like you did not go crazy with the paint marks either.

firstgenaddict 08-30-2011 01:17 AM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: [email protected]</div><div class="ubbcode-body">real nice James. I used their glass in the front and back of my 69. Looks real nice and correct to me. Looks like you did not go crazy with the paint marks either. </div></div>

Thanks Sam,
It is very nice glass, and the price wasn't too bad, 350 or so for the front.

and yes... I tried to stay away from being labeled &quot;Restoration Graffiti.&quot; thank you for noticing. I also stayed away from CAST BLAST and paint on cast parts which in turn made me fall in love with and invest heavily in Boeshield and Cosmoline.
I more or less replicated the survivors I have seen and photographed.

JAG


SS427 08-30-2011 01:22 AM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 
Glad to see someone else not using cast blast paint. They look so much more authentic when they are not painted. Just my opinion. It is coming along nicely. Keep up the nice work.

mockingbird812 08-30-2011 01:23 AM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 
James - what an impressive resto. I see what you are trying to do with &quot;no cast blast&quot; and the like. AZ wx allows for un covered metal for the most part and I just love the real patina of metal if at all possible.

Thanks for keeping us updated!

firstgenaddict 08-30-2011 01:32 AM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SS427</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Glad to see someone else not using cast blast paint. They look so much more authentic when they are not painted. Just my opinion. It is coming along nicely. Keep up the nice work. </div></div>

Not only do they look more authentic, they age like they should.

When the rest of the car ages and gains the beautiful patina like it should, a resto with painted cast parts looks like a resto with painted cast parts...

IMHO the ultimate compliment would be if someone looks at a car I restored and second guesses as to whether it is a survivor or not.

Salvatore 08-30-2011 04:09 AM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 
I love Boeshield! My survivor nova drinks it. I like the look of cars and NOT lawn ornaments.

scuncio 08-30-2011 04:54 AM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 
Wow. Sure has come a long way! Looks great.

69z28302 10-02-2011 09:57 PM

Re: 1969 Z28 Restoration
 
Looks Great James , My color too. Let me know when you get to lower windshield trim. I need a picture of how that goes on

Mike


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