Impala sold 43,900 units in 2018
Camaro sold 39,800 units in 2018

Perhaps the better question is how many people on this site own a newer Camaro?

I am told Mary likes the Camaro brand and its legacy. She is the one and only reason the ax did not fall here and now.

Everything built on the Alpha Platform needs to start selling or it could be next.

With the Oshawa plant now closing,is there going to be a mad rush to get VVS Documentation from them more than ever before?

AFAIK, VVS is a separate entity and not owned by GM of Canada. They actually stopped using the GM of Canada logo on their letterhead a few years ago.

Initially, VVS was in the GM Canada head office building on Colonel Sam Drive in Oshawa. A few years ago they moved to a building next door. It was at that time they became known as Vintage Vehicle Services. As mentioned, they are a separate entity and, hopefully, will not be affected by the Oshawa plant closure.

Bob

Anybody drive one of the newer Impala's.? with the V6, it flies and is quiet as heck. A LOT of car for the money

I have a 2015 Cruze, not the latest one, but it is a good car.

I rented the old-gen Cruze when I moved to Cali, and it was such a nice beater that I looked at a new-gen one for 2017. Unfortunately, couldn't get a stick with sunroof so I went with Mazda.

Overall, sedan sales are in the crapper across the board in the U.S. Everyone wants crossovers and SUVs. This is the reality of our world at the moment.

Unfortunately, it's just typical GM doing GM things. Personally, I am just now starting to like 5th Gen Camaros, but as for the next redesigns after, no thanks. I feel like the Mustang, Challenger and other late model muscle cars just have more to offer than the Camaro. Sad about the Impala though. Yeah its FWD, but still had some sharp angles in the right color.

Just my two cents,

Alex

I have a 2017 Camaro RS convertible that, IMHO, is one of the prettiest designs GM has ever made. The proportions are just right in my eyes, and except for it being a little short on torque, the power is pretty good at 335hp. BUT, it's definitely got a couple issues. The first is the 8 speed auto is pretty vague when trying to find a gear and it bucks pretty good on down shifts, but the biggest gripe I have is the interior. Pretty decent design, but the quality quite frankly sux pretty bad. The plastic is hard and scratches if you look at it wrong, and the seat bolsters are already starting to get worn and pull apart with less than 30K miles. Ridiculous for a car with a sticker of $37K. Honestly, I think they need to fire everyone who works in the interior department and start from scratch. In this day and age, there is no excuse for using 1970's plastic in a new car.

I sold my 2007 zo6 w/2,800 miles. Couldn't take how cheap the car felt. Great engine though. Hated the 1 to 4...ridiculous!
Our friends that live up the street bought a new Camaro after someone rear ended her M3. We have 25mph S turns between our houses, and she always complained how wide the Camaro felt, and called it a cartoon car. The Vette felt wide too.
They hit a home run with the 1st gen Camaro because of it's size. Make a smaller, more proportionate high performance car like a 911, S4, M3-M5,STI...
And put a little build quality in the interior.

I think that chart says it all. Auto manufacturers are not going to keep on building vehicles that fewer and fewer people buy.

I can’t tell you how many new Chargers I see on the road every single day. FCA must be doing something right.

It is not that the sedans are gone, they are being literally replaced right in front of our eyes. If you sit in a sedan or a coupe today you are treated to a near claustrophobic driving experience, I term it as I cant see SH*T. Why?

Safety regulations heavily applied to cars and not SUV's or light trucks- that's why.

These same regulations that do not apply to the SUV the same way which allows the loop hole production of so called "crossovers" which has nearly entirely replaced the market for cars in general.

The Manufacturers know well that the progressive media demonized the SUV in general starting about 15 years ago so they simply began making a version of the SUV based on an automobile chassis. In technical terms these vehicles are Mini SUV's, compact SUV's and mid size SUV's.

So you sit in a so called "crossover" you sit higher, you can usually see all around your vehicle and feel more in control of the driving situation and all wheel drive then makes the vehicle highly attractive.

So, If a Camaro was reborn as a sport crossover - sales would explode. :) :)

The end game is autonomous vehicles and ride sharing and the complete end of automobile ownership.

The transformation of the car from an extension of who you are socially to the branding of an appliance ownership experience is sadly nearly complete.

My 2 cents after getting opinions from people on the inside... just sayin' :)

If a Camaro was reborn as a sport crossover - a lot of us would bit** and complain about the horror of it, but I kinda agree... sales might just explode.

I love 'em! It's my "go to" in the rental car parking lots. We bought my wife a 2016 Lacrosse (essentially the same car, just more upscale) and it has been great.

The link below is 100% sarcasm...but there is a tinge of truth to it. Warning... you might laugh!



https://autowise.com/2019-camaro-crossover-confirmed/

The buzzards are circling now.

https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/20...re-after-2023/

More buzzards...

https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...meplate-to-die