Re: HUCKLEBERRY HOUND
 

Nice pictures. I think my Dad has the originals hanging up in his house in Florida:)

Re: HUCKLEBERRY HOUND
 

Does your Dad still have the tags and paperwork, or did a guy in NY truly buy them from him?

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Old thread and pics dead so no idea if this Huckleberry Hound on the truck shot was posted before or not?:hmmm:
Anyone have the VIN of this Wallace Chevrolet car?
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A couple more pics of the Huckleberry Hound Copo, same as the no longer working pics posted previously?:hmmm:
I missed it before but see Marlin noted the last 6 earlier = VIN 124379N616462
Interesting too, Googling the Vin takes you to this TC thread w/ another Wallace sold 10/10 car 124379N620776.
https://www.camaros.net/forums/35-co...5122-copo.html

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~ Pete

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Fuzzy but here's another pic of the Wallace Chevrolet delivered Huckleberry Hound Copo.
Bummer the action shots are so poor but does anyone recognize the locations?
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~ Pete

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Last shot is York. And Duffy’s was a premier race engine builder out of Red Bank, New Jersey.

That was really a great looking Camaro.

Possible Huckleberry Hound COPO or sister car
 

I acquired this a couple years ago. It's either the Huckleberry Hound or the sister to it. This was sold by Wallace Chevrolet and both were delivered the same day.

Any help on figuring out which one it is would be appreciated.

VIN is 124379N620776 and Trim tags are shown attached.

I'd say it's the sister to it. HH had style trim and it appears in the pictures. Your car does not have style trim.
Manual or auto trans originally?

Possible Huckleberry Hound COPO or sister car
 

This is also on it.

93 vin numbers from my Z

???

Ok, so I’ve been searching this car on and off for almost 2 years now. The Vin is correct and verified by NCRS that’s it was delivered to Wallace in 69. When I first got the car I got over excited and was wrong about the transmission being correct to the car. I know the 427 was built in 69 but having some issues with the date code. Built in Tonowanda. It was either in a Vette or a copo! The cowl hood wiring hole above the junction block is there in good shape as is the original rubber grommet (although pulled from the fire wall with two wires running through it) so the “cowl hole” is correct there is also a badly rusted and distorted hole on the “area” where the Muncie hole should be but it’s not exact to the locations I have seen in pictures online, but the right edge of the hole almost seems like it could have been stamped?!?

Wallace to the best of my knowledge sold 2 10/10 COPO’s in 69, a 4spd and the HH car. As far as tracking down the last owner she had passed away weeks before I got the car. I will have to try to reach out to next of kin.

On a side note, currently there is a guy named Jon selling the “HH” car in upstate NY. I called him today and asked if he could tell me the vin on the car? He would not but said a sale was pending, and to call back in a week if the other guy doesn’t show. No current pictures of the car but said he has the original title and bill of sale. My gut tell me he doesn’t have the HH car!!! I’m not saying I do? But.... if mine turns out to be the auto Copo then... WTF? Was there a third 10/10 Copo Camaro?!? I feel like I’m on a cold case file! lol!!!

KnA,

Not sure if you know how to tell if car was originally an automatic, but I would check out the swivel on the frame for the lockout setup. If it is not there, then check and see how many of the three holes are threaded. Two threaded holes for a Muncie. Three threaded would be for the automatic.

- Warren

Good idea! I do and I’ll check! Thanks man ��

The for sale car is posted on FB.

It’s not the HH car! I hate to say it but I’m almost positive! I can’t stand to hear myself say it because I don’t want to believe it but I might have the real McCoy.

Except for one major detail.

The car that’s for sale has no pictures?!? No Vin information! No Trim information! I’m posting pictures later that’s gonna make you think?!?

And not for nothing it’s been repainted! Who’s to say they put it back on?

Cowl hole with wiring and original grommet is the first picture.

Second picture is of the underside of the deck lid. Now some of these stickers may not be original, but I researched some of the old ones and they are from the late 60s/ early 70s. If there is anyone who remembers seeing the inside of the deck lid of the HH car, please tell me if this looks familiar or not??

Additionally, I have the matching front wheel and rear wheel in the trunk as pictured on the car in the autographed photo. I will take pics of them and post tomorrow.

Can you post a picture of your roof gutters, specifically the 'corner' piece at the top of the windshield?

The other car is not for sale on FB. It's on https://www.racingjunk.com/Chevrolet...=0&from=search
Won't send pics, makes you question what's there.

1969 Chevrolet Camaro - $29,000
Listed By joejon Contact (716) 435-5020
springville, NY
Ad Number 183988434

Description
1969 427 COPO Camaro
Real COPO Camaro known as Huckleberry hound . Was drag raced in NHRA Super Stock EA when new and never street driven. Disassembled in current state. Still retains many original and valuable parts. Deserves to be resurrected!
If your not into projects this car is probably not for you. Please only inquire if you are a serious buyer. If you don’t waste my time, I won’t waste yours. No photos at thus time - it’s in lots of parts. Original title and paperwork.

The VIN # referenced in this old post was from the original owner of the HH car, which I presume is what the seller in NY purchased way back when.... Wallace sold at least 5 COPO Camaro's, its possible that 2 were black, Frankie recalls the HH car was an X11 body style. Let's see what the seller's VIN is before you go claiming to own the HH car....

Kurt, the HH car is being discussed on FB, but to your point... not For Sale on FB: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...&theater&ifg=1

Thanks Marlin. Finding things on FB is damn difficult with all the different groups.... Esp when I was looking for an ad.

I'm not claiming to own the HH car, I just want to prevent someone from making a $30k mistake. According to all my research, no one can produce this VIN as referenced. All the information on the supposed HH VIN is second hand, I don't go by second hand info. All I'm doing is documenting everything I have found so far. Nothing is telling me I do or don't have the HH car yet. Anybody can tell anyone any VIN number.

Believe me, half of me doesn't want to own the HH car. I don't want the responsibility of bringing it back to its original state.

Ok, I was just confused by this post - wasn't sure what you don't want to believe; that you have a 10 10 COPO car or a 10 10 COPO HH car :dunno:

I am 100% sure I have a '69 Wallace Chevrolet 10/10 COPO, I just am trying to figure out which one. From the information I have gotten, only 2 10/10 X44 COPOs went out from Wallace in '69. One was the HH and the other was the sister car that was sold at the same time. I have one of those cars and I'm trying to get definitive information to determine which one. Any information will help and be appreciated.

What info source is providing the definitive information on how the cars were equipped? :dunno:

How are you "100% sure I have a .... COPO"? Where have you gotten your info about only 2 10/10 X44 COPO's from Wallace, and how is one of them the HH car if Frankie recalls it as an X11 automatic car? Kurt or Steve can correct me, but I'm pretty sure an X11 has the fancy stuff on it....

That is based off of NCRS information for the dealership and delivery day, the VIN number decode, and an aficionado named Rich that called me right after I bought it who was well-versed in those COPOs. Unfortunately, we lost touch. I am now trying to get the documentation together before I start the full resto on it,so I know what specs I am aiming for during restoration.

So, was N620776 originally a 4 speed or auto? Also, how about a picture of the top gutter track on the side of the roof by the top of the windshield.

- Warren

A bit of a rookie, see it has been asked twice , what’s the top of the gutter tell you?

Photo 1: Gutter

Photo 2: The holes for a wing. This car is an X44, so it shouldn't have a wing, but the HH is pictured as having one, so the holes don't disprove it being the HH. Also in this pic, rumor has it that after its racing days were over, it was painted blue. As seen, that is the color of this vehicle even though the cowl clearly states it was a 10/10.

Photo 3: From what we've gathered, the HH was an automatic. This is clearly an automatic slapstick.

There are a series of photo's floating on the innerweb that show the creation of the HH, that might help - I just can't find them!

Holes for a wing, don't mean a thing! Goodness, half the Camaro's out there have holes for a wing, neither does an a/t in a 4 hitter car, or blue paint. This is not a 'process of elimination' exercise when Frankie had the original title and VIN, which I don't think matches yours....

I hope I'm wrong, but....

Yeah, I know. None of this stuff "seals the deal". It's just all of the information that trickles in as I'm trying to research this. I am looking for something that can prove it either way. To be honest, it would be a much easier resto if it *isn't* the Hound. If I find out for sure that it is the Huckleberry Hound, then I will have to go insane to get it back to its glory days, bringing history back to life. This isn't a pride thing for me, it's respect to the Hound.

The pictures of HH clearly show it had style trim. Frankie's car was X11 and had style trim.
Yours is X44 - no trim from the factory and no trim now. Not an easy detail to add AND then remove.
Can't see how your car could be HH.
Especially when the original owner of HH provides the VIN and it's 9N616462.

What's for sale in NY - not much.

Just saw this post back from 2004. This now makes a lot more sense and makes me feel better. Knowing that 2 10/10 COPOs were sold by Wallace, one being a 4 speed and one being an automatic. Mine has the hole for the clutch and the automatic slapshift, so no idea what this car has gotten itself into over the years. Thanks again for all of your assistance in solving this mystery. I just didn't want to do a normal resto on a car with historic value.

Yea, I'd probably shift focus away from trying to determine if your car is the HH, and put all your energy on determining if its a COPO.....

The HH story is better left with the current seller in NY.

It's definitely a Wallace Chevrolet COPO. 100%. I have all the documentation for that.