Re: Fred Gibb trademark ZL 1
 

I think he was. Who knows what the motive is for stealing the Gibb name... Can't be big money in t-shirts and key chains...they must just have it in for Helen .

Re: Fred Gibb trademark ZL 1
 

That was a bit of a rip on DP. Sure, I know who he is (was), I grew up back then. He tests https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif, he doesn't get a full ride. His name isn't above the 'door'! Who is he now? He's Dick Harrells' daughters' "boyfriend"!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif(Hope they don't sue me for using Dickies'name!) https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

Re: Fred Gibb trademark ZL 1
 

Ayy ayy ayy...come on now. Lets just hope the Gibb name stays with Helen...lets keep this thread on track with whats really important...

Re: Fred Gibb trademark ZL 1
 

Like many others I had the pleasure of meeting Helen and Nancy at SC8 and I couldn't belive how generous they were in displaying their own personal family albums, with all of the original racing photos. Wasn't it Helen that provided the Vin numbers to Super Chevy at no charge? I feel that she has given alot to the hobbie and think it's a damn shame that she is being put through this. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...thumbsdown.gif

Re: Fred Gibb trademark ZL 1
 

I'm with you JQ...Helen is one great lady. Awesome stories and wonderful to talk to...

I just don't get the BS of someone else trying to trademark the Gibb name https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif

Re: Fred Gibb trademark ZL 1
 

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I just don't get the BS of someone else trying to trademark the Gibb name https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif

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Follow the money....... $$ https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif $$

Re: Fred Gibb trademark ZL 1
 

I have no interest in the Gibb argument. However, I am a drag racing fan. I must say you should be ashamed of yourselves for questioning and minimizing Dale Pulde's accomplishments. His career began in 1968 with the "Vicious Vette" and extends to the present on a limited basis. He drove probably more different cars for more owners than any other funny car pilot in history, including Stone, Woods, and Cook and Mickey Thompson. His name appears all over the record books, right up to the present time. He is recognized in drag racing circles as one of the best funny car drivers in history. To throw mud or name call to a person with his accomplishments is dirty pool and should be below the integrity of the board.

Re: Fred Gibb trademark ZL 1
 

You are right. His accomplishments stand on their own. Thanks for the reminder. Sometimes members here get upset at his juvenile behavior on his site and post stuff here that is not needed or wanted. This thread needs to stay focused on their attempt to take the Fred Gibb name from Helen Gibb. It is too bad you have no interest in the Gibb arguement though.

Re: Fred Gibb trademark ZL 1
 

Charley- I meant I had no personal interest in the case. Just clarifying I was posting because of improper comments, not to comment on the case.

Re: Fred Gibb trademark ZL 1
 

As you can see below, which was just copied from the U.S. Trademark website, Valerie Harrell is still seeking the rights to the Fred Gibb mark.

<font color="red"> Serial Number: 78577804

Registration Number: (NOT AVAILABLE)

Mark


(words only): FRED GIBB

Standard Character claim: No

Current Status: An opposition is now pending at the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board.

Date of Status: 2006-01-31

Filing Date: 2005-03-01

Transformed into a National Application: No

Registration Date: (DATE NOT AVAILABLE)

Register: Principal

Law Office Assigned: LAW OFFICE 101

Attorney Assigned:
MICHELI ANGELA M Employee Location

Current Location: 650 -Publication And Issue Section

Date In Location: 2005-11-22


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LAST APPLICANT(S)/OWNER(S) OF RECORD

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1. HARRELL, VALERIE J.

Address:
HARRELL, VALERIE J.
13820 POLK STREET
SYLMAR, CA 913421714
United States
Legal Entity Type: Individual
Country of Citizenship: United States


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GOODS AND/OR SERVICES

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International Class: 028
MEMORABILIA, NAMELY TOY MODEL AUTOMOBILES AND TOY REPLICAS OF RACING VEHICLES
First Use Date: (DATE NOT AVAILABLE)
First Use in Commerce Date: (DATE NOT AVAILABLE)

Basis: 1(b)

International Class: 041
ENTERTAINMENT SERVICES, NAMELY, ORGANIZING AND CONDUCTING AUTOMOBILE EXHIBITIONS AND DISPLAYS
First Use Date: (DATE NOT AVAILABLE)
First Use in Commerce Date: (DATE NOT AVAILABLE)

Basis: 1(b)


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ADDITIONAL INFORMATION

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Description of Mark: The mark consists of THE WORDS "FRED GIBB" IN OLD ENGLISH SCRIPT ON AN OBLONG TEXT BOX SUPERIMPOSED OVER A CHEVRON HAVING THREE CROSSES ABOVE THE LETTERING AND VERTICAL STRIPES BENEATH.

Name Portrait Consent: The name FRED GIBB does not identify a living individual.

Design Search Code(s):
24.01.02 - Shields or crests with figurative elements contained therein or superimposed thereon
26.13.02 - Plain single or multiple line quadrilaterals; Quadrilaterals (single line or multiple line)
</font>

<font color="blue"> Serial Number: 78578775

Registration Number: (NOT AVAILABLE)

Mark


(words only): FRED GIBB

Standard Character claim: No

Current Status: An opposition is now pending at the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board.

Date of Status: 2005-12-27

Filing Date: 2005-03-02

Transformed into a National Application: No

Registration Date: (DATE NOT AVAILABLE)

Register: Principal

Law Office Assigned: LAW OFFICE 101

Attorney Assigned:
MICHELI ANGELA M Employee Location

Current Location: 650 -Publication And Issue Section

Date In Location: 2005-11-04


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LAST APPLICANT(S)/OWNER(S) OF RECORD

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1. HARRELL, VALERIE J.

Address:
HARRELL, VALERIE J.
13820 POLK STREET
SYLMAR, CA 913421714
United States
Legal Entity Type: Individual
Country of Citizenship: United States


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GOODS AND/OR SERVICES

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International Class: 016
POSTERS, DECALS, STICKERS AND PHOTOGRAPHS
First Use Date: 2004-01-06
First Use in Commerce Date: 2004-01-06

Basis: 1(a)

International Class: 025
CLOTHING, NAMELY T-SHIRTS, CAPS, SHIRTS, JACKETS, AND SWEATSHIRTS
First Use Date: 2004-01-06
First Use in Commerce Date: 2004-01-06

Basis: 1(a)


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ADDITIONAL INFORMATION

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Description of Mark: The mark consists of THE WORDS "FRED GIBB" IN OLD ENGLISH SCRIPT ON AN OBLONG TEXT BOX SUPERIMPOSED OVER A CHEVRON HAVING THREE CROSSES ABOVE THE LETTERING AND VERTICAL STRIPES BENEATH.

Name Portrait Consent: The name FRED GIBB does not identify a living individual.

Design Search Code(s):
24.01.02 - Shields or crests with figurative elements contained therein or superimposed thereon
24.13.01 - Cross, Greek (shorter horizontal lines); Latin cross (shorter horizontal lines)
26.07.21 - Diamonds that are completely or partially shaded
26.13.02 - Plain single or multiple line quadrilaterals; Quadrilaterals (single line or multiple line)
27.03.01 - Geometric figures forming letters or numerals
</font>

Re: Fred Gibb trademark ZL 1
 

Creepy people.....Helen should just put her over her knee and give her a good spanking.

Re: Fred Gibb trademark ZL 1
 

Oh, for cryin' out loud, Of course we all know Dale's a good driver. When someone does something like what is being done here, that someone opens the door for ridicule. If anyone thinks I should apologize for my previous comment, sorry, I'm not going to, political correctness doesn't fly with me. I 'said' it...I can live with myself! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

Re: Fred Gibb trademark
 

Trademarks should be the property of the widow/widower/heirs of the person who originally owned or developed the property in question Andrew

Re: Fred Gibb trademark
 

"Logic,Common Sense and the Truth" mean nothing when Lawyers get involved.....

Ken https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

Re: Fred Gibb trademark
 

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"Logic,Common Sense and the Truth" mean nothing when Lawyers get involved.....

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I've lived that nightmare. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/crazy.gif

Re: Fred Gibb trademark
 

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Re: Fred Gibb trademark
 

What's the difference between a cat fish and a lawyer and a catfish? One is a bottem feeding scavenger and the other is a fish https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif

Re: Fred Gibb trademark
 

Just my .02 but clearly the mark should be controlled by Helen. I know very few of the facts regarding this dispute. However, I have quite a bit of experience with trade marks and the use of trade marks by non-registered users. In 1953 my father developed a gasket material used by NASA. The product was called Fluorogreen and the trade mark was registered and controlled by the company my father worked for. In 1972 he purchased the division that made the Fluorogreen product but the trade mark stayed with the original company. In 1980 that companies assets were liquated and the trade mark went to the bank. We continued to use the trade mark and make the product for the next 15 years. We never thought of registering the mark in our name. Shame on us. Back in the day there had been a gentleman's agreement to allow my father to use the trade mark. A competitor of ours did a searches with the patient and trade mark office and saw that the mark was not registered in our name. Under a secret agreement between the registered owner (a bank) and our competitor, the registered owner (a bank) sold the mark to our competitor and our competitor applied for the registration of the trade mark.

Sorry, but it doesn't work that way.

There are two defining points that determine who owns a trade mark and one of them IS NOT who the registered owner is. The first is whoever controls the mark in commerce owns that mark regardless of who the registered owner is. In-fact we were able to keep the register owner of the trade mark from selling it to our competitor because WE had controlled the mark in commerce for the past 15 years not "The bank" . The second defining point is you have to prefect your claim to the mark. Meaning you have to prevent anyone from using the mark with out your permission. Ask Dupont. They lost control of the trade mark Nylon because they did not prevent others from using it. The Bank had never tried to prevent us from using the mark and had never controlled the mark in commerce so they had no claim to the mark even though they were the registered owner. If Helen can show that she has controlled the mark in commerce then she owns the mark but she also has to show that she has at least tried to prevent Val or anyone else from using it. It's kind of a double edge sword but it's a fair system. I spent three years fighting this battle only to find out that the battle was over before it started. We controlled the mark so we owned the mark ..... period.

Hopefully that's the way it will turn out for Helen.

Rick

Re: Fred Gibb trademark
 

good info

Re: Fred Gibb trademark
 

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"Logic,Common Sense and the Truth" mean nothing when Lawyers get involved.....

Ken https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

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Re: Fred Gibb trademark
 

Nothing major, but a few minor developments behind the scenes. First of all, Helen Gibb is still seeking all rights to the Fred Gibb trademark, and the sYc is still supporting her.

Valerie Harrell has assigned one of two applications to Connie Gibb, one of Helen’s daughters. Though on the surface it may appear to be a gesture of good will, really more a case of someone getting caught with their hand in the cookie jar and trying to save face. And really serves only to complicate things, as now pitting mother against daughter.

As of today, Valerie has not assigned the other application, it still remains in her name, which asks for the rights to 1. TOY MODEL AUTOMOBILES AND TOY REPLICAS OF RACING VEHICLES and 2. ORGANIZING AND CONDUCTING AUTOMOBILE EXHIBITIONS AND DISPLAYS. The logic behind this is not hard to figure out, #1 is one of the few places a little $$$ can be made off of a supercar related trademark, and #2. to prevent the sYc from doing Gibb displays at the SCR, York and Vettefest shows, and who knows, maybe even prevent the town of LaHarpe from holding the Annual Fred Gibb Memorial car show, at least without paying a fee. Remember, Valerie prevented the Dick Harrell Performance Center in Las Cruces, NM from hosting an Open House/car show, which was to feature several Dick Harrell cars, because the majority of cars scheduled to participate were owned by members of the sYc.


And, it has come to our attention that someone from another site says he made a 10K donation to the Val Harrell fund. The only use we see Val having for that money is to aid her in her attempt to trademark the Fred Gibb name. Once again we would like to state that we think the Fred Gibb name should remain with Helen Gibb and nobody else. Why would anyone support Val trademarking the Fred Gibb name ?

Re: Fred Gibb trademark
 

So the Harrell family has settled??? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

Re: Fred Gibb trademark
 

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it has come to our attention that someone from another site says he made a 10K donation to the Val Harrell fund.

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Tom someone sent me that in an e-mail. What a joke...sounds like the usual lies that we have become accustomed to by these guys. Somehow the charitable type doesn't come to mind. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

Re: Fred Gibb trademark
 

Any new developments?

Re: Fred Gibb trademark
 

So Tom, whatever became of the trademark issue,I'm sure a few would like to know? You were the one that started this topic, is it finished?

Re: Fred Gibb trademark
 

This sounds like a loaded question to me..... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif


Steve

Re: Fred Gibb trademark
 

Who are 'the few'? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

Re: Fred Gibb trademark
 

Well Crap, here it is more than two years later since the last post!!!! I've been reading this forum from it's begining with great anticipation to the outcome, and I'm left high and dry https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif Is there a "Lived Happily Ever After" ending? (unfinished in Central America, Dicky) https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif

Re: Fred Gibb trademark
 

For once the good guys won, as Helen Gibb and the sYc prevailed.

Once the facts were known, and I am guessing Valerie and Dale realized that it was a case they could not win, either in the court system and in public opinion, the applications were dropped.

Helen Gibb now holds the rights to the Gibb mark, as registered in the good State of Illinois. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Re: Fred Gibb trademark
 

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For once the good guys won, as Helen Gibb and the sYc prevailed.


Helen Gibb now holds the rights to the Gibb mark, as registered in the good State of Illinois. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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OK, that last part may be a bit of a stretch. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

Re: Fred Gibb trademark
 

Not to me.
No other place I'd rather live.
..and Congrats Helen &amp; sYc.

Re: Fred Gibb trademark
 

Dennis, are saying the Great CORN Desert is not good??? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif

Re: Fred Gibb trademark
 

Helen Gibb now holds the rights to the Gibb mark, as registered in the good State of Illinois.

One can only guess what the "Vig" for Blago was....... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif

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Re: Fred Gibb trademark
 

For once the the system worked and the Lady in the white hat won!
Now Dennis, If you had to choose between Blago, Pelosi, or Harry Reid, who would you pick! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

Re: Fred Gibb trademark
 

OOOPS! I forgot, no political posts.

Re: Fred Gibb trademark
 

I hope she somehow protects the name or trademark (if ever sold down the road). I personally do not like when these trademarks get used to promote sale of totally unrelated items. But it is America..

Re: Fred Gibb trademark
 

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Now Dennis, If you had to choose between Blago, Pelosi, or Harry Reid, who would you pick! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

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For what; to clean my septic tank? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

Re: Fred Gibb trademark
 

And when they're done, inside the tank they go. Slide the cover back in place and the world would be a better place! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

Re: Fred Gibb trademark
 

Thaaaaaaaaaaat's the plan! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/laugh.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

Re: Fred Gibb trademark
 

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Now Dennis, If you had to choose between Blago, Pelosi, or Harry Reid, who would you pick! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

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For what; to clean my septic tank? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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You don't have a lagoon , or airation sewer system in Roodhouse? EPA, and IL DNR is going to mandate sanitary waste water compliance by 2012. You need to have that project "shovel ready" yesterday. And get those bodies outta that septic tank. When they do their archeological borings, they might get those bones confused with native American remains, and hold the whole project up a year. Now get crackin. That's infrastructure, and we's got money commin. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif