Re: Canadian C.O.P.O. Frost Grn/Vinyl Roof For Sale
 

I agree w/ Andrew's and other's comments above, but back to the subject vehicle;

I've been waiting for someone else to bring this up but can't sit on my hands forever...
Take note of the similarities in how this thread's subject car is a Canadian car w/ GM Canada Vintage Services documents as it's major pedigree, wears a bogus tag plus has a short Ontario owner history all amazingly enough exactly like the Yellow L89 Coupe of this previous thread...including the same two owners!https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/shocked.gif.

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/show...fpart/all/vc/1

Hmmmm...https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif?

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~ Pete

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I like real cars best...the REAL real ones!

Re: Canadian C.O.P.O. Frost Grn/Vinyl Roof For Sale
 

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I have purchased several cars from Mark Young. All were represented for exactly what they were. It is obvious that L88 owner and CamaroNOS have some type of personal vendetta against Mark. It is a shame they they do not have the guts to look Mark in the eye and resolve. Most of us are tired of hearing this slander. Mark works his tail off, takes risks few on this board would ever dream of taking, accurately represents what he sells, and has to put up with annonyomous keyboard jockeys envious of his success slandering his good name. That sucks!

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I have no personal stake in this. My passion is Fox Mustangs, and the Chevrolet is stuff is a sideline that happens to interest me. That said, even I have heard of this guy previously, and none of what I heard has been good.

A few years ago, I went with a buddy to check out a "numbers matching" driver quality 69 Z/28 that a guy he knew had just purchased from Mark. It was absolute fabricated B.S. Even I could tell as soon as he opened the hood that it was a fake tag. The details were all wrong. The engine was dated a month after the build date on the tag. The intake date was way off. It had a 68 Muncie in it. Wrong hole for the shifter. The best part was the leftover bits of the a/c system that had been taken off the car at some point. And that's not the only bulls**t car I've heard of that came from him.

Like I said, nothing personal, never met the guy, just my experience.

Re: Canadian C.O.P.O. Frost Grn/Vinyl Roof For Sale
 

The green and Yellow car mentioned above must be from the same COPO factory . hmmm

Re: Canadian C.O.P.O. Frost Grn/Vinyl Roof For Sale
 

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I have purchased several cars from Mark Young. All were represented for exactly what they were. It is obvious that L88 owner and CamaroNOS have some type of personal vendetta against Mark. It is a shame they they do not have the guts to look Mark in the eye and resolve. Most of us are tired of hearing this slander. Mark works his tail off, takes risks few on this board would ever dream of taking, accurately represents what he sells, and has to put up with annonyomous keyboard jockeys envious of his success slandering his good name. That sucks!

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These risks………….well……………..

I cannot vouch for Mike Young down in Portland, just seen his name around and wanted to reiterate what had been posted other places.

So, I have no issues with Mike, just wanted to inform what others have posted here.

BTW, do your two cars have original trim tags too?

Z16 #24

http://www.chevelles.com/forums/arch.../t-251663.html

"Also, for kicks I worked through the trim tag decode on chevellestuff.com. Maybe that guy can help solve the mystery "U" code on option group 4. Didn't Z16 have a one-off rear drum brake that was larger diameter or something like that? Maybe that's it, it is attributed to 65 only, so it would be fitting.. The front suspension and the rearend was different. Basically they were full size Chevrolet parts adapted by GM to a Chevelle (not a simple bolt on).

Also, the VIN stamp on the block all crooked like that, is that normal? According to nastyz28.com decoder, that IX suffix is a '67 only deal. Seems like that engine may be fishy.Engine may be fishy but IX is the correct suffix for a 65 Z16. I have seen known original engines with stamps that looked as bad or worse than that one. I would need a better picture and more information before I would make a judgment; better yet a personal inspection."

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/show...0/fpart/1/vc/1

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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/show...fpart/all/vc/1


"Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the Chev Connection in Oregon was involved with this "LS6" as well as the 71 Z discussed in another thread. If you don't know about the Chev Connection, I'd suggest you dig deep (actually, you won't have to dig that deep) and you'll be able to make very quick judgements about some of his cars."

"After being there this year and seeing the Vague and or "Creative" wording being used.....It's pretty obvious that Re-creation or Clone cars are getting to be more of the norm........The Oregon Plated cars seem to get away with it over the years, so the "Standard" of what's deemed ethical has so of gone to the Wayside"

""There are only so many low mileage survivor type cars, and T.C.C. seems to obtain an abnormally high number of them compared to other dealers, or so he would like to have people believe. He has no magic source for obtaining them buying them at auctions and swap meets, and people answering his ads. He fakes and misrepresents cars, and that goes for the mileage. I have never seen an original paint car belonging to him. Two years ago at Hot August Nights he had a 65 Chevelle he was trying to pass off as being an L79 4 speed car with original paint for $34,900. He forgot to notice on the original window sticker it left the factory as a 6 cylinder 3 speed, only having front seat belts as an option. As for the paint it was bc/cc, way too nice for original lacquer, I sould know as I own two original lacquer paint cars. He also has or so he claims is a red 1967 Z/28, with a fiberglass plenum repop air cleaner for 119k, if it were a real car it would bring huge money at BJ, it's not there because it probably could be spotted as a fake. So the point I am trying to make, a true low mileage original car does not need complete paint, resprayed trunks, undercarriage and motors, like all of his cars have, if that's the case he can declare whatever mileage he feels like.... " "

Re: Canadian C.O.P.O. Frost Grn/Vinyl Roof For Sale
 

124379N660749 N660749 sold for $160,000

"Ultra rare Central Office Production Order (COPO) with bullet-proof documentation from GM of Canada, One of one produced in "Forest Green Metallic" with parchment vinyl top, Original numbers matching 427-425 HP L72 Engine, Original numbers matching turbo 400 automatic, Original 12 bolt positraction "BE" rearend, Factory original and date coded components, Truly one of the best documented COPO's in existence"

http://www.silverauctions.com/auctio...=74&type=2


Section 3 of an Ontario UVIP identifies all previous owners of a car, David James Mattina and Mathew G. Langford. David James Mattina and Mathew G. Langford registered this car on in 2004, 124379N553588

The COPO clone sold for $40,000