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As for surrounding infrastructure. I remember going out to the track and we travelled a few miles through the woods to get there. Didn't see any town water or sewer handy to hook up to. Lots of corn fields though. I think that John Force described it as the nicest track in America.

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I doubt Maple Grove was sold. The Stauffer family who owns the track is going to be making some improvements this comming year. They are going to do more paving in the pit area and grind the track surface.

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A buddy of mine was running the bracket finals this passed weekend. He heard right out of George Case's mouth that the bracket finels are going to be held at Maple Grove at least until 2012. Also the Nationals have been signed on until 2020. The current rumor in the pits was that the restrant acrossed the street from the track was sold and it will turned into a campground.

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It funny that this keep popping up I have heard it was NOT sold and the new housing market is in the dumps I have a friend the works for GMC mortgage and he told me over the week end new housing is dead the foreclose rate is at all time high I can not see a developer buying up that land to build homes that will not sale and can not get a mortgage He told me by years end just try getting a mortgage will be a tuff also the mortgage companies are telling the builders that they are way to high in the price of new homes so if the grove was sold the developer will be in a losing battle just to break even
I don’t think it was sold they can build them BUT selling a new home then getting a fixed rate mortgage on an over price home is not going to happen it’s a lost that I can not see any developer going to make https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...thumbsdown.gif

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I hate to say it, but the way that track is managed and taken care of at meets is the WORST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They call you to the staging lanes THREE HOURS before you get to run. Imagine sitting in a car in the sweltering heat and humidity in that valley for hours, not able to get out to go pee, or get a drink OR work on your car.
As far as I'm concerned, if it's sold, OK OK OK OK OK! Yes, it has history, but it's the WORST run track I know of on the East!!!!!!!!!!!!

By the way, Atco, is a close second to the worst run track I know of. Anymore, they just all seem to want the gate money. Fill the pits with weed-wackers, motorcycles, snowmobiles, kids in mini dragsters (that take 15 minutes to make a run) and who knows what else, then you're luckey if you get ONE RUN.
Ronnie's car has YET to go to a track where he could make more than 2 runs. That's no way to tune or set up a car. One or two runs at a time at different tracks with different weather and different starting line prep (read---NO prep) is no way to bring a car to it's potential.
I can't tell you how many times we've waited in the staging lanes to make a pass, then ran out of time for one reason of another, then just loaded for home. OR this past weekend's trip to Cecil, which had "Test & Tune" on it's schedule, only to find it was a Harley meet. No racing cars. The state cops had to break up that fiasco! Two trips to Atco, waiting again for the weed wackers to run, or the street racers (No time nationals), and getting rained out and loading for home. There's no GD place to go race anymore where you can get 5 or 6 runs to sort out the car!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't CARE if the Grove is sold. IT hasn't done us any good in ages!!!!! Fri nights the track is NOT prepared and every street tire car is filling the starting line up with everything stuck in it's treads.
I'm too hot to continue.

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Load up and come to Union Grove !!

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Verne

Is this a grass roots movement to take it back to the streets?
I agree, but at what track don't you find this?
Between the costs of getting there, getting in, getting fuel and sitting all day for a couple minutes of seat time - is it worth it?
Test & Tune at Cecil is usually a 5.0 Mustang and foreign car convention.
The last time I was there I got in 3 runs - Not counting 3 or 4 hole shots each time on the return road, just to get some enjoyment out of the night.
The staging lanes at Maple Grove are more of a social gathering then anything else. Your there so long the should be serving food!
Maybe the roundy round guys have the right idea? Is it time to build another stock car and spend my week nights banging the dents back out?

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Sorry Verne, I look at your scenario as a good thing - at least these kids are not racing out on the street in their 5.0's, weedwackers, etc... I've been through the same frustration you have, and can relate more of the same types of stories. However, a test-n-tune is indeed a Friday night 'open' event for people who want to run their drivers - not a serious race car tuning session. When I want a serious session, I get together with a bunch of buddies and we rent the track for the day!

I think Maple Grove Raceway has done a phenomenal job at resurrecting that track, the events, the concessions, the restrooms, etc.... It's a nice place to go with your 5 year old to see some tiresmoke and wheelstands. The best event of the season is the Dutch Classic, come join us!!

BTW, I've learned that to get the most runs in on a t-n-t night, one should be in line when the gates open, be the first person in the tech lane, and stay until the end. I got 4 runs in one night night even though some 'racer' oiled the track down 2x, another 'racer' went into the sandbox, they eventually shut one lane down..... cool night air at 10pm, can't beat it https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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Verne, I know you are upset with "The Geezers at the Grove" this year. And rightly so. But MG to me has to be one of the top tracks on the east coast! I have been to most of them and really like Atco and Cecil but the Grove is the cleanest strip around, plus a gorgeous setting! Hey if you bring back York US 30 then the Grove slips to #2. JMO And BTW the Grove is sold. Heard that from the racers at Englishtown at the points meet. I think through 2009 the Grove is good. A sad state of affairs! Sam

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There is no doubt that the Grove is a beautiful facility. I just think it could be managed much better. After running a race track for a while, you should have an idea of how many cars you can run in an hour (with no delays), so why tell a guy he doesn't have time to adjust his clutch because he's going to run "soon", then call him to the lanes only to let him sit for 3 hours!?! We could have changed everything on the car except the Paint in that time. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif Ronnie was there an hour before the gates opened and made his 3rd run at 11pm.
AS for Fri nights, it's not a good venue for testing a serious car because the track doesn't get groomed, or if it does, it doesn't stay that way for long due to all the street tires.
Plans are in the works now to get a few racers together and rent a track. That's really the only way to get enough seat time, back to back to get a car sorted out well.
All rants aside, I"ve always loved the Grove and it will be sad to see it go...............but not as sad as it would be if it was well run... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/frown.gif

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