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Bernhard 11-25-2017 03:19 AM

Top Shelf!

ZLP955 11-25-2017 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NorCam (Post 1374459)
https://image.ibb.co/m7TXiR/IMG_3559.jpg
(Measuring push rod lengths with the new Trick Flow 186 heads)

Curious if the cast 'TFS-SBC-18' denotes these as 18-degree heads? Apologies if you stated that earlier and I missed it.....
Great progress BTW!

NorCam 11-25-2017 10:20 AM

Tim...they are a 23 degree cylinder head. Here's a link to the product via Summit Racing

Summit Racing Part Number:TFS-30210007

ZLP955 11-26-2017 12:02 AM

No worries, thanks for clarifying. I messed around with 18-deg heads once in the hunt for more power and just wondered about that cast number.

NorCam 12-11-2017 01:13 PM

Been pretty busy of late but found the time to get the new motor loaded onto the run cart and fired it up last evening. It ran great as I got the cam broken in and put a 20 minute run on it. With 11:1 compression it has that classic 30/30 sound but with modern ramps and a tighter lash. Duration @ .050" is 247/254 with .504/.498 lift:

Turbo70Camaro 12-12-2017 01:04 PM

Badasssssssss

x77-69z28 12-12-2017 03:02 PM

I got a chubby!
Buddy

cook_dw 12-12-2017 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by x77-69z28 (Post 1379098)
I got a chubby!
Buddy


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You said modern ramps. Is this still a solid flat tappet or roller now? Sounds good regardless.

x77-69z28 12-12-2017 06:11 PM

Hehe

NorCam 12-12-2017 07:56 PM

Darrell...

Solid flat tappet but Comp redesigned the ramp speeds with a modern lobe design and tightened the lash up to .016 on this Nostalgia grind. Makes like "no vaccum" either so it'll need a pump installed. Won't know until I've driven or dyno'd this one but it's supposed to wake up the lower end and mid range some and can run 7500 rpm on the top end of a 302.

I've also got this option for the top end if I decide to run some more gear in it. This intake will either be going onto the 302 in the green 69 car or it'll be going on the bigger solid roller motor in my blue 68.

https://image.ibb.co/eKYx4b/IMG_1463.jpg

outlawperformance 12-13-2017 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NorCam (Post 1379163)
Darrell...

Solid flat tappet but Comp redesigned the ramp speeds with a modern lobe design and tightened the lash up to .016 on this Nostalgia grind. Makes like "no vaccum" either so it'll need a pump installed. Won't know until I've driven or dyno'd this one but it's supposed to wake up the lower end and mid range some and can run 7500 rpm on the top end of a 302.

I've also got this option for the top end if I decide to run some more gear in it. This intake will either be going onto the 302 in the green 69 car or it'll be going on the bigger solid roller motor in my blue 68.

https://image.ibb.co/eKYx4b/IMG_1463.jpg

You want a lot of compression and tight cam centerline 106ish and you love that crossram.

outlawperformance 12-13-2017 10:16 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Running one on my Nova

NorCam 12-24-2017 01:03 AM

Thanks again for the info and such from your Nova build. :headbang:

Plans are always changing with me and likely due to having a few fresh engines here to choose from. As of now the plan will be to mount the Crossram on the solid roller 355 motor that was just broken in from my 68. It's sitting with 10.5 compression and runs a 254/262 duration solid roller at .582 lift. It'll make some decent power with the 200cc aluminum heads that are mounted up and will flow nicely with the Crossram intake. Here's the Crossram after Mike went through both the carbs and freshened them both over the last couple days. These are NOS 70/71 service date 585 CFM carbs and should work real well on this motor. It'll soon go into the 69 car with an M22 and the 4:10 gearing. More on this over the next couple months as I'll have to juggle a few things around first. The CE 302 will sit off to the side with the original heads, intake and carb mounted up.

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DW31S 12-24-2017 12:45 PM

Very, very cool indeed!

NorCam 12-25-2017 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DW31S (Post 1380800)
Very, very cool indeed!

Thanks Dave. Merry Christmas to you and your family today. :santa:

My kids were asking me where my gifts were hiding this morning since my stash was rather small beneath the tree. I hadn't shown them the Crossram yet so I marched them out to the garage and said Ho-Ho-Ho. They both thought it was pretty cool...and immediately ran back to their semi automatic nerf guns. :grin:

NorCam 12-31-2017 05:04 PM

After a few months to really think about things and maul over options for the cars interior, I have decided to semi restore an all original interior consisting of nice clean parts for the stock 711 interior. I scored a decent set of original seats with some cherry kick panels from a Scott in PA, while Jeff Boone then hooked me up with a beautifully restored deluxe wheel and a really nice survivor console w/ gauges. Ed Montini was kind enough to supply me with a really nice set of original door panels where I now have all the right pieces to do a complete survivor style interior with the cars factory option list being focused on.

My upholsterer friend Graham Cannon gets all the parts this week and will clean and re-dye the original door panels while repairing one tear in the side bolster of the original drivers bucket using some original factory material. The original covers will then be thoroughly cleaned and the seat frames restored with new springs and foams before the original covers go back onto the restored frames. The console needs nothing more than a simple cleaning along with the door pulls and the original kick panels. The original gauges from this car are super clean and I'll spend a little time detailing the dash carrier before it all goes back into the car with an NOS clock. The Lakewood roll bar will not be used at this time but I may consider adding it at a later date.

Here are the pieces before they are all cleaned, detailed and preserved for use in the Z. I have some nice original wind lace pieces coming for the door pillars and also scored a real nice set of correct April dated angled head rests which will be utilized with these original buckets. Should turn out real nice after everything is completely cleaned and detailed. A few pics before the parts are all tended to. :)

https://image.ibb.co/jAW49w/IMG_6808.jpg
Nice set of original black door pulls


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Nice set of seats which will be repaired, re-stuffed, thoroughly cleaned and detailed. Head rest on the seats are mismatched and are coming off

https://image.ibb.co/iKqgpw/IMG_7763.jpg
Original console and carrier about to be gently cleaned and detailed

https://image.ibb.co/kxy6NG/IMG_7755.jpg
Rebuilt heater controls and original carrier to be detailed

https://image.ibb.co/iQbRNG/IMG_7756.jpg
Rebuilt tilt steering column and minty deluxe steering wheel

https://image.ibb.co/mbsu9w/IMG_7759.jpg
Nice set of original black kick panels which will clean up nicely

https://image.ibb.co/mPwAhG/IMG_7762.jpg
Great set of original door panels which will be repaired, glued along the edges, cleaned, dyed and well detailed

When it's all complete in a couple weeks from now, these parts will be ready for use in the car and should give a real nice survivor feel to the inside. A new headliner was already installed and new loop carpet will go in with original jute padding. Hoping to nail a nice clean 2/3 year old survivor look to the interior with very few repro parts involved.

Ryan1969Chevelle 12-31-2017 05:07 PM

It’s going to be great inside and out!!

Ryan

cook_dw 01-01-2018 02:28 AM

I'm gonna have to agree with Ryan. Things are really looking nice.

BillD 01-03-2018 01:38 PM

Original interior pieces are well worth the effort required to save/preserve them. Car looks great.

NorCam 01-03-2018 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BillD (Post 1382232)
Original interior pieces are well worth the effort required to save/preserve them. Car looks great.

Thank you Bill. I dropped off the seats & door panels at my upholsterer's place yesterday and we had a real good look at them while making a plan. Seats and door panels need a couple small repairs made and a real good cleaning. We're thinking that will be all that's needed and this will leave them semi restored with just the right original patina!

Shooting for a gently used look and doubt any recoloring will be required. :)

NorCam 01-24-2018 02:50 AM

Since I can never leave well enough alone, I figured it was time to use a spare 010 block and build a nice solid lifter motor to pair up with the Crossram. A nasty little mouse motor built for a specific purpose. Fully machined and coated in grease for the past 10 years, I'm dropping it off in the morning to be hot tanked and washed, then the fun starts. :naughty:

https://image.ibb.co/d6kj9G/IMG_8458.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/nPE0ib/IMG_8453.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/f57mOb/IMG_8448.jpg

L78M22Rag 01-24-2018 03:35 AM

Nice! Who did you drop it off with???

Salvatore 01-24-2018 12:21 PM

Louis Desjardins. Better yet, John Armstrong.

NorCam 01-24-2018 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 1385513)
Louis Desjardins. Better yet, John Armstrong.

Been lots of old pictures of Louis Desjardins on the Facebook pages lately. Has anyone found his old car yet? Here's a couple pics both young and old' (er). :smirk:

HOF Inductee: http://cdrhf.com/Inductees/louis-desjardins/

http://cdrhf.com/wp-content/uploads/...sjardins_4.png

https://scontent.fyxd1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...ec&oe=5AE49B28

http://cdrhf.com/wp-content/uploads/...sjardins_5.png

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NorCam 01-24-2018 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L78M22Rag (Post 1385485)
Nice! Who did you drop it off with???

Took it up to Todd this morning. He'll steam wash it & remove some material from the bottom end to allow ample clearance. More stroke, more cubes, more compression and more cam is the recipe for the green machine. In the meantime, the 302 motor is being reunited with the stock top end, 403 bell and the M21 trans. It'll be 100% stock and will eventually live on the run stand as a turn key engine and trans that's ready to drop into the car at some point in the future.

Until then it's...:3gears:

http://image.ibb.co/j0ATPG/IMG_8481.jpg
I need to dig out the valve cover bolts and grommets, and I think I have original manifold bolts around here somewhere? :hmmm:

http://image.ibb.co/cYCQ4G/IMG_8484.jpg
All original parts c/w heads, intake, carb and water pump dated April 69. Once fully assembled I'll add the restored smog system.

http://image.ibb.co/kKthjG/IMG_8486.jpg
Original 9D2 distributor w/ Delco script cap. Once I button this up I'll get it back on the run stand where it will live and breath for years to come.

Salvatore 01-25-2018 03:26 AM

Are they my old AC's GB?

NorCam 01-25-2018 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 1385593)
Are they my old AC's GB?

That they would be Sam. Glad you shared some of those.

NorCam 02-01-2018 04:02 PM

For those who like to stay up on this project, I have updated the website with many of the details on the two engine builds and the Crossram. Check out the news page or follow this link..

http://image.ibb.co/muzmpR/Engine.jpg

Salvatore 02-01-2018 09:41 PM

Carb studs heading to Sweetgrass GB.

NorCam 02-07-2018 02:43 AM

Recently I was put in touch with Nate at Sweet Ave Fabrication in North Dakota. He bought the dies and tooling to continue reproducing M/T Scavenger style collectors for those wanting a custom set of equal length headers. While most of the ones he's been doing have been for big blocks, he's now making a set for my mouse motor with 1-3/4" tubes and the custom made collectors to fit a F-Body SBC with power steering and a Muncie. They are built using an original front sub-frame and steering so that the headers are perfectly clearance'd to fit the car. Once completed they are sent off to Minnesota to be Ceramic coated (in orange of course). These are gonna sound cool behind the new Crossram motor with that ping pong ball sound inside the chambers.


http://image.ibb.co/i5keTx/sw4.jpg

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scuncio 02-07-2018 03:21 AM

Cool, any idea what he gets for the 67-69 BB Camaro headers?

NorCam 02-07-2018 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scuncio (Post 1387390)
Cool, any idea what he gets for the 67-69 BB Camaro headers?

I asked Nate and he said that a set for BB is 2K and includes 2" Primaries, Ceramic Coat and Shipping in the US.

He starts on mine next week and ships in 3 weeks.

Salvatore 02-07-2018 12:22 PM

Good stuff GB.

Bernhard 02-07-2018 01:23 PM

Great build.

Schonyenko2 02-09-2018 05:31 PM

That is very cool.

mockingbird812 02-09-2018 11:40 PM

Dang, that’s HOT!!!!!

NorCam 02-15-2018 10:09 PM

Sick with a nasty cold the past week but got out to the machine shop today to drop off the parts needed for the build. Block is all washed up and ready for some final measuring, stroker clearancing and final assembly. Shouldn't take too long.

http://image.ibb.co/cp8WrS/IMG_8630.jpg

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outlawperformance 02-17-2018 01:29 PM

Nice pile of goodies you have there!

Tommy 02-18-2018 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NorCam (Post 1387383)
Recently I was put in touch with Nate at Sweet Ave Fabrication in North Dakota.
http://image.ibb.co/mCFeTx/sw6.jpg


Tell Nate that his Welding table is outstanding!! I


Tommy

NorCam 02-22-2018 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy (Post 1388840)
Tell Nate that his Welding table is outstanding!! I

Tommy

I talked with Nate today and he chuckled when I read this to him. I had a set of engine mounts shipped to him yesterday and he's now mocking up a small block in a 69 sub frame to get all the clearances right on these headers. He's going to add some 02 bungs so tuning the carbs will be a little easier once the Crossram is added. They should be finished up and sent off for ceramic coating next week.


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