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I know these were built in limited numbers (60 or so??) and am wondering if there have been any recent sales of them?

Anybody care to comment on their values based on any recent auction or reporting dealer sales?

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You mean the ZL1 and there were 69 of them built and fully documented.

What is the current value? Well the Reggie Jackson #27 rebody countfeit worthless fake of a ZL1 sold at BJ last year for $290k +10%. There is one available now for sale for between $475k-$500k and the low mileage RS survivor bid up to around $800k but was not sold. So to answer your question I would say the current market value is between $300k-$1m but none have changed hands to see what the real market on them is.

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The only other car that I can think of for comparision to these cars would be a 1968 Super Stock Hemi Dart or Cuda. Not a great comparision for car models as the Dart competed with the Novas and the Cudas had no where near the appeal then or now as a Camaro. Also the Camaros were an aluminum engine whereas the SS Mopars were cast iron. However, they were race Hemis with a true h.p. of around 575 and with production numbers of around 70 each. I think they are probably one of the most un-valued cars in the old car hobby today. Most all of them have a good race heritage as nearly all of them went to well known racers of the day.

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The one available now for 475-500K from what I am told is missing it's hidden vins because that whole firewall dash area was cut out during it's life as a sand rail. That is what I believe is hurting that car. The RS ZL1 sold for 800K and the owner has turned down 1.2mil. I was told the price is 1.5 mil but now I'm told even that won't buy it. I would say a stand up 4 speed ZL1 is around 800K.

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Well the Reggie Jackson #27 rebody countfeit worthless fake of a ZL1 sold at BJ last year for $290k +10%.

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Wow, I posted this almost exactly a year ago on YouTube, and I haven't checked it in some time. It has over 10,700 views! I was just reading through the comments people posted. I bet a few of them came from Yenko board members. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiLf56NlDPc

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10 years ago they were trading for around 200k for one that was apart and needing a restoration with most of its born with parts.

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The only other car that I can think of for comparision to these cars would be a 1968 Super Stock Hemi Dart or Cuda. Not a great comparision for car models as the Dart competed with the Novas and the Cudas had no where near the appeal then or now as a Camaro. Also the Camaros were an aluminum engine whereas the SS Mopars were cast iron. However, they were race Hemis with a true h.p. of around 575 and with production numbers of around 70 each. I think they are probably one of the most un-valued cars in the old car hobby today. Most all of them have a good race heritage as nearly all of them went to well known racers of the day.

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one sold i think at mecem's a couple/few months ago $150/155.. i thought that was a steal n a half.. ofcourse depending on the car, which looked good on tv...

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Last year, Jerry M. appraised my ZL-1 at 775 to 850k (in restored condition)...if that helps any.

It is an 'original born-with' motor ex-racecar....Fathom Green 4 speed car.

Not to change the subject..but, hey Cris...when do I get my drive???

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Last year, Jerry M. appraised my ZL-1 at 775 to 850k (in restored condition)...if that helps any.

It is an 'original born-with' motor ex-racecar....Fathom Green 4 speed car.

Not to change the subject..but, hey Cris...when do I get my drive???

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That's incredible. But they are super rare pieces of Americana and as such deserve the collector status that they have earned. Question; is your car restored currently and are there any nice Survivor ZL1's that are currently out there?

MB

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I sold my car to a member here last year soon after Jerry saw it.

I assume it is most likely restored by now https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

Crissssssssssssssssssssss???????????????????

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all that caressing ron pratts back and almost kissing in his ear almost made me sick.they really spent alot of time trying to sell that one.what an embaressment to barret jackson.i would never buy a car there.id like to look around but its to much deception for me.if the car was the steal that they were saying ,why didnt the owner of the auction bid on it and add it to his car collection.money ,greed ,deception/what a shame.i thought reggi was a great ball player but i lostrespect for him

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all that caressing ron pratts back and almost kissing in his ear almost made me sick.they really spent alot of time trying to sell that one.what an embaressment to barret jackson.i would never buy a car there.id like to look around but its to much deception for me.if the car was the steal that they were saying ,why didnt the owner of the auction bid on it and add it to his car collection.money ,greed ,deception/what a shame.i thought reggi was a great ball player but i lostrespect for him

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That's why I only pay attention to R&S and Mecum anymore. B-J turned into sideshow long ago.

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The one available now for 475-500K from what I am told is missing it's hidden vins because that whole firewall dash area was cut out during it's life as a sand rail. That is what I believe is hurting that car. The RS ZL1 sold for 800K and the owner has turned down 1.2mil. I was told the price is 1.5 mil but now I'm told even that won't buy it. I would say a stand up 4 speed ZL1 is around 800K.

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WOW!! That is 1967 Corvette L88 territory, and seperates the men from the boys. I know that cars like this often change hands behind closed doord with tight lips so it is hard to tell what the REAL prices are.

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iluv9s:

I haven't heard from Chris in quite some time either. I hope everything is okay with him. I'll try and give him a call on Monday and let him know that you're looking for him to post. Ed

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The RS ZL1 is really the holy grail, because its the whole package. Of the 69 built, 50 were Fred Gibb ordered strippers, very much the same other than colors and transmissions. If you want a "different" ZL1, you're left with the remaining 19. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe its the only RS ZL1. So its THE ONE. Add to that it was never a race car, has its born-with drivetrain, has survived in great shape and has never had any "stories" attached to it, really makes it the ultimate hipo Camaro in my opinion. There's a huge financial gulf between cars with excuses and those without. Last I heard, there were still less than 10 of the 69 sporting their "born-with" motors, and these have always been the most coveted, since there were always many reasons for ZL1 Camaros to lose their engines since Day 1.

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There is one other RS ZL1 out these ways and IMO the cars WITH the race histories are more interesting (and IMHO worth more). Ultimate in my mind w/o a doubt belongs to a tall fella that frequents our SCR and runs the living h*ll out of it at the track!!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

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The stories that go along with them are what make the cars unique and interesting... IMHO

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There is one other RS ZL1 out these ways and IMO the cars WITH the race histories are more interesting (and IMHO worth more). Ultimate in my mind w/o a doubt belongs to a tall fella that frequents our SCR and runs the living h*ll out of it at the track!!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

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I believe that Craig Jackson still owns the other RS ZL1.

It is silver.

Ken B's ZL1 is certainly one of the most valuable ZL1s, for many reasons,including the fact that it is the only one known to still have the original owner option.

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The blue RS/ZL1 that I believe you are referring to is on display at the AACA Museum in Hershey through March, 2010. I'm attaching a picture.

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The blue RS/ZL1 that I believe you are referring to is on display at the AACA Museum in Hershey through March, 2010. I'm attaching a picture.

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That is the car - and thought of by most as the most valuable of all ZL1 cars produced.

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And it drives like the 7000 mile car that it is...

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WOW!! That is 1967 Corvette L88 territory, and seperates the men from the boys. I know that cars like this often change hands behind closed doord with tight lips so it is hard to tell what the REAL prices are.

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A real 67 L88 has not traded in a few years. There are only a handful of those that are no excuse cars. The price for one of those would be well over 1 million.

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in 1981-1985 at super chevy in indy i saw a blue zl1 for sale 45,000 would have bought the blue car

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In 1997 at Super Chevy in Pomona, CA there was a Green ZL-1 for sale for $80k. Yea, I should have bought it. It seemed high at the time.

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Only a few months after I bought my ZL-1, I could have had the #25 Hugger Orange Penske ZL-1 for 70k..it was running and driving and real nice.

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How long ago was that?...and how did that compare in price and quality to the ZL-1 you had just bought?

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I paid much less for my car, but my car was a complete project and just a roller..as I already owned the original motor to my car.....and as far as when that was?? Had to be early 90's???

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AMEN!

And ALL the original components for that car (minus tires) are still in the owner's possesion. I don't know how anyone could EVER put a value on that car!

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DC - words like priceless or gazillion would be appropriate!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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Concerning Mr. B's ZL-1, I think that the value in it lies with him still owning it! After 41 years, he has to view that car as an extension of himself. Personally, I would hate to even see that car with an owner besides him.

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hi why has car #61 not sold been on ebay a long time 500,

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Personally, I would hate to even see that car with an owner besides him.

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Concerning Mr. B's ZL-1, I think that the value in it lies with him still owning it! After 41 years, he has to view that car as an extension of himself. Personally, I would hate to even see that car with an owner besides him.

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These 'old' cars that are still racing today are, in my mind, the true survivors of the muscle car era.
My god, they've had the livin' daylights run out of them and they still look great. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif

I've never met Mr. B but when I read the write-up on his car a few years ago, I thought, how do you put a price on this car? I couldn't... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

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hi why has car #61 not sold been on ebay a long time 500,

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Charles seems to know about this car - apparently it is a former racer that had the lower firewall cut out so all the hidden vins are missing.

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from my earlier post.

"The one available now for 475-500K from what I am told is missing it's hidden vins because that whole firewall dash area was cut out during it's life as a sand rail. That is what I believe is hurting that car."

That doesn't mean it isn't now a good car, just my opinion that that is what I think is hurting it's sale. I believe there is good complete history on the car so they know who and when it got cut and made into the sand dragster so I don't think there was any rebody work going on. Just repairing a old race car.

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The car Charly speaks of, ZL1#61, did lead a tuff life. It is owned by member Mike Miller "ZL1#61". And yes the firewall was hacked to death. However the dash vin plate is still in place with it's original rivets.
I met Mike through another member and helped Mike with a few things on his car.
I got to see her as Mike and his body guy restored the car.
They did an amazing job bringing a real ZL1 back from the dead. The work on the car was top shelf stuff. Great pains were taken to retain as much of the original sheetmetal as possible, the paint and body work is killer.
Mike is a great car guy and I am sure he would be glad to talk to anyone really interested. I know he has allot of photos of the car during build.

Car at Summit Racing in Akron Oh this June.

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Popular Hot Rodding, Oct 1969

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There are only so many ZL1's to go around and they were the king of the hill for GM muscle. At 500K this is probably one of those cars that gets mentioned in the future as in. "I remember I could have bought # 61 for 500K". Seems like a very fair price.

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does anyone know what this car was bid up to?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j4fS...eature=related
this COPO is one of 2 RS cars with the most options.

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That car sold for 800K and there are people that would pay 1.2 1.3. Price was supposedly 1.5 but I'm told even that won't buy it. That is the 7000 mile car mentioned earlier. That is about the best one out there....