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jasonL78 08-09-2011 06:23 PM

12 bolt restoration pictures needed
 
Looking for some detailed pictures of a camaro/nova 12 bolt rear end restored. I noticed on my 12 bolt from the 68 L79 I am restoring the inside of the backing plate wasn't painted black. Was the backing plate installed after the rear end was painted? Is the back of the backing plate steel(gray) or painted black? What is the correct color of the brake drums? Gray?

Jason

enio45 08-09-2011 06:26 PM

Re: 12 bolt restoration pictures needed
 
my 1600 mile 69 Z backing plate on the inside (covered by the drum and the brake shoes) etc is bare steel -

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 08-09-2011 06:46 PM

Re: 12 bolt restoration pictures needed
 
I always felt that the rear assy was bare, and the black paint was shoddily sprayed - sometimes with just black overspray hitting the backing plates. That is what I found on my car, so that is the way I restored it.

Must have been short on paint back in May of '70 bec/ there was very little overspray on my floor boards, f/wall, interior, trunk, etc....

SS427 08-09-2011 06:58 PM

Re: 12 bolt restoration pictures needed
 
My experience has been that if and when there was black paint applied to the rear it was usually done sparingly as Marlin pointed out. I usually see varying degress of black overspray on the drums. What I normally do is install the drums over unfinished but treated backing plates and fog the black over the natural cast iron drums. From the many survivor cars I have inspected it appears that the brake lines were not installed but the e-brake cables were and had overspray on the drum end. jmo


http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...s/a69bd60d.jpg

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...s/dba0be5e.jpg

jasonL78 08-09-2011 07:04 PM

Re: 12 bolt restoration pictures needed
 
The bottom of the 68 L79 nova was not painted black or undercoated. You can still see all the zinc coating on all the floor braces. Kind of interesting since all the cars you see restored are painted black. Maybe it had some thing to do with where the car was sold new maybe? Being it was from down south? I am going to pressure wash the rearend tonight I will take a couple of pictures.

SS427 08-09-2011 07:44 PM

Re: 12 bolt restoration pictures needed
 
Here are a couple of the low mileage and unrestored 68 L78 Camaro. Notice the center housing has no paint on it while the axle tubes and backing plates do. Also notice the black overspray on the e-brake cable.


http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...s/15cb03ac.jpg

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...s/2be31f36.jpg

jasonL78 08-09-2011 08:03 PM

Re: 12 bolt restoration pictures needed
 
Why would they only paint part of the housing? Very good pictures. Thanks

SS427 08-09-2011 09:01 PM

Re: 12 bolt restoration pictures needed
 
It was very common and still is to this day. I am sure they figured why waste the paint on heavy cast iron as there would be no harm unlike unpainted steel. When you are talking a million cars you can see the savings. Most all the front suspension pieces were never painted for the same reasons. However for some reason that smae thing did not apply on driveshafts. I remember as a kid it was common practice during dealer prep for the body shop to put a quick light spray of black on the rear axle so that car showed well on the lot and hid the surface rust long enough to sell the car.

jasonL78 08-09-2011 09:11 PM

Re: 12 bolt restoration pictures needed
 
So on the first set of pictures you posted did you paint the complete housing or just some of it like the second set of pictures.

SS427 08-09-2011 09:34 PM

Re: 12 bolt restoration pictures needed
 
Jason, the first set of pictures is of a 1970 Chevelle and the entire rearend was painted as that was the way I found it. On the 68 Camaro that I am doing the rearend was originally painted just like the rear in the survivor photos and that is how it is restored.

jasonL78 08-10-2011 12:04 AM

Re: 12 bolt restoration pictures needed
 
cool thanks for the info. I will post a picture once I get mine pressure washed and cleaned up.

Jason

jasonL78 08-12-2011 01:09 PM

Re: 12 bolt restoration pictures needed
 
Ok I got the housing all cleaned up, I will have some pictures tonight. It looks like the center section never had any paint on it and I found a little on the axle tubes. So I think I am going to detail it like the pictures Rick posted. So what color would the inspection cover be black?

Jason

William 08-13-2011 01:16 AM

Re: 12 bolt restoration pictures needed
 
Axles were completely painted semi-gloss black; drums and all. The pinion yoke was masked; brake lines were not in place.

This is ZL-1 #3 shortly after delivery.

http://i598.photobucket.com/albums/t...image001-1.png

firstgenaddict 08-31-2011 02:50 AM

Re: 12 bolt restoration pictures needed
 
Assembly line photo of 67 Camaro subframes and rears.
How many of you have tape left on the subframe and rear where they ripped off the build orders?

http://inlinethumb07.webshots.com/46...600x600Q85.jpg

jasonL78 09-02-2011 01:55 AM

Re: 12 bolt restoration pictures needed
 
Just waiting for the brake drums to return from getting turned. Very happy with the end results.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...-11-L79001.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...-11-L79006.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...-11-L79005.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...-11-L79008.jpg

Xplantdad 09-02-2011 03:50 AM

Re: 12 bolt restoration pictures needed
 
Looks great Jason!

SS427 09-02-2011 03:10 PM

Re: 12 bolt restoration pictures needed
 
Nice job Jason!

napa68 09-02-2011 03:25 PM

Re: 12 bolt restoration pictures needed
 
Jason,

Do you have more pics of the car? The rear diff came out great!

Tim

jasonL78 09-02-2011 03:52 PM

Re: 12 bolt restoration pictures needed
 
Here you go Tim. Maybe I should update the restoration with some new pictures.

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbt...011&page=1

chris slawski 01-28-2018 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by William (Post 1115331)
Axles were completely painted semi-gloss black; drums and all. The pinion yoke was masked; brake lines were not in place.

This is ZL-1 #3 shortly after delivery.

http://i598.photobucket.com/albums/t...image001-1.png

So for I hate to say rattle can resto does semi gloss equal satin black?
Thanks in advance
Chris

70post 01-30-2018 05:40 AM

Usually not. Many semi-gloss paints are MUCH glossier than satin. Typically closer to gloss than they are to satin.


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