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Stefano 10-31-2011 10:36 PM

1970 W30 Coupe from Canada
 
Does anyone remember a 1970 Black with White interior W30 Coupe sold new out of Ontario Motor Sales Ltd. Oshawa,ON ?

PeteLeathersac 10-31-2011 11:45 PM

Re: 1970 W30 Coupe from Canada
 
If coupe means hardtop, about 1980 I bought a complete cracked block engine and stick parts from a black w/ white stripes drag-car here in Peterboro' (45 minutes from Oshawa) the guy claimed was a W30..
The parts I got weren't W30 parts and already off the car when I picked them up, he wouldn't consider selling it or even let me look at it...no idea what ever happened to that one?.

A few W30's and W31's Posts/Hardtops were around Peterboro' in those days, site member Keith w/ the Copo Chevelle may recall?.
One was a '69 W31 Post I bought in 1981, stripped and foolishly tossed..

If coupe means Post, I forget the color if I knew but in the early 90's I phoned a guy in a small town about 25 miles North of Oshawa who was advertising his '70 W30 Post car..
I had a '70 Post 442 then also a '69 442 Post so more than interested but someone had beat me to it!.
I still recall the small town where it was also a chance the old ad w/ phone # could still be found?.

If the car lives today and you're searching its early history, running the Vin through Ontario's MOT is only $20..
Not always a hit but happy to try it for you!.

Also if your dealer info came from GM Vintage, best always confirm the code w/ the dealer name yourself..
GM Vintage rocks also George and Frank great guys but sometimes mistakes happen comparing the dealer codes and old listings also the delivered to by GM and selling dealer not always the same too..

Lastly, I lived in Oshawa in 1970 and OMS was the biggest dealer in the Oshawa area then also is still in operation..
http://www.ontariomotorsales.com


Good luck whatever's up!.
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~ Pete


Stefano 11-01-2011 02:37 AM

Re: 1970 W30 Hardtop from Canada
 
I should have said Holiday Coupe = Hardtop no post.

This particular car has dealer DOCs as well as GM of Canada docs.

It is Black with white stripes and a white interior. Just figured maybe someone would remember it cruising around.

Shipping Invoice shows dealer 137141.

Thanks for the info.

PeteLeathersac 11-01-2011 02:37 PM

Re: 1970 W30 Coupe from Canada
 
Even if no B-pillar it sounds like a very cool car!. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img]
Do the dealer docs include a sales invoice and is there purchaser info?.

Again we can search the Ontario history if you'd like as running the Vin through the MOT here is only $20..
The reason it's not always a hit is around 1980 their system changed and purged vehicles non-active after that date..

Also the local speed shop guy here was into these cars then and may recall or know of the car?.
A bit of a kook but still around and I can dig up a # if you'd like?.


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~ Pete


Stefano 11-01-2011 04:02 PM

Re: 1970 W30 Coupe from Canada
 
Original owner was Byron A. Burnett, he purchased the car on Feb 27th 1970.

The New Vehicle Warranty and Owners protection plan is written in two languages. I do not have an address.

Make some room in your PM box.

Stefano 11-03-2011 06:26 PM

Re: 1970 W30 Coupe from Canada
 
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...d/scan0371.jpg

Stefano 11-05-2011 02:22 AM

Re: 1970 W30 Coupe from Canada
 
Detroit Dragway Sticker in 1/4 window. http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...KEYRSSS059.jpg

Stefano 11-05-2011 02:25 AM

Re: 1970 W30 Coupe from Canada
 
Trim Tag Code 19 19

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...KEYRSSS062.jpg

Stefano 11-05-2011 04:53 PM

Re: 1970 W30 Coupe from Canada
 
The Hi-Po big valve heads for the W30 have and 'F' cast into them.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...KEYRSSS095.jpg

Stefano 11-05-2011 04:55 PM

Re: 1970 W30 Coupe from Canada
 
The Julian casting date...looks like 335, so that would be the 335th day of 1969 on this particular W30.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...KEYRSSS090.jpg

Stefano 11-05-2011 05:01 PM

Re: 1970 W30 Coupe from Canada
 
The last three digits of the head casting number.

1970 W30 Head casting number is 404438.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...KEYRSSS091.jpg

Stefano 11-05-2011 05:20 PM

Re: 1970 W30 Coupe from Canada
 
1970 W30 Distributor coded for manual trans, number 1111977 dated,

9G21 or July 21 1969


http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...KEYRSSS079.jpg

Stefano 11-05-2011 05:40 PM

Re: 1970 W30 Coupe from Canada
 
1970 W30 Intakes are cast aluminum and the words &quot;Oldsmobile W-455&quot; are cast on to the intake. For 1971, the casting was changed to read &quot;Olds-W-455.&quot; Some late 1970 cars are said to have, &quot;Olds W-455&quot; cast on the intake.

This intake may not be correct for an early 1970?

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...KEYRSSS083.jpg


http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...KEYRSSS081.jpg

Stefano 11-05-2011 05:42 PM

Re: 1970 W30 Coupe from Canada
 
1970 W30 Manual Trans Carburators are coded; UA part number 7040256

This one is dated; 3509 or the 350th day of 1969.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...KEYRSSS078.jpg

Stefano 11-05-2011 05:50 PM

Re: 1970 W30 Coupe from Canada
 
1970 W30 Master clyinder has an EB stamp.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...KEYRSSS088.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...KEYRSSS074.jpg

Stefano 11-05-2011 05:58 PM

Re: 1970 W30 Coupe from Canada
 
1970-72 W30s as well as std 442s have W and Z stamped exhaust manifolds.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...KEYRSSS089.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...KEYRSSS086.jpg

Stefano 11-05-2011 06:37 PM

Re: 1970 W30 Coupe from Canada
 
W30 radiator(other applications also) with &quot;C&quot; &quot;I&quot; code Harrison tank and &quot;B&quot; date code on the passengers side and &quot;I F&quot; code on drivers side tank.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...KEYRSSS084.jpg

Stefano 11-06-2011 03:16 PM

Re: 1970 W30 Coupe from Canada
 
Oldsmobile W30 Engine Pad VIN Stamping.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...KEYRSSS067.jpg

mockingbird812 11-06-2011 03:20 PM

Re: 1970 W30 Coupe from Canada
 
That is some great documentation. Love the no-power-booster-for-4-speeds!

Stefano 11-06-2011 03:56 PM

Re: 1970 W30 Coupe from Canada
 
It is nice to find them this complete and original.

3.91 Posi Speedo Reducer. http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...ANADIAN040.jpg

Stefano 11-06-2011 04:01 PM

Re: 1970 W30 Coupe from Canada
 
W30 M21 trans stamp and VIN stamp;

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...ANADIAN044.jpg


http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...ANADIAN053.jpg


http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...ANADIAN059.jpg

Stefano 11-06-2011 04:10 PM

Re: 1970 W30 Coupe from Canada
 
1970 W30 4 speed Black with White Interior.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...KEYRSSS008.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...KEYRSSS005.jpg

oldzzy 11-06-2011 05:33 PM

Re: 1970 W30 Coupe from Canada
 
That is a beautiful car! Have any more exterior pics?

Stefano 11-06-2011 06:29 PM

Re: 1970 W30 Coupe from Canada
 
Thanks!

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...KEYRSSS014.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...KEYRSSS020.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...KEYRSSS019.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...KEYRSSS017.jpg


http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...KEYRSSS011.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...KEYRSSS010.jpg

oldzzy 11-06-2011 11:32 PM

Re: 1970 W30 Coupe from Canada
 
No wheel well chrome? Again it looks amazing! My car goes in for paint in 4 weeks for that same colour combo. Seeing pics like these sure makes me happy i choose black with the white stripes!

LeeP 11-06-2011 11:40 PM

Re: 1970 W30 Coupe from Canada
 
My dream car when I was 18 years old was Mr. Millers black with red stripes and white interior Olds 442 w-30. I just had a regular 442 and his car was the hot car in town.

I like black but after attending SEMA and dusting off my black stripes a million times am glad mine is gold with black stripes. Looks great clean with no fine scratches but oh my gets dusty in seconds. I did not have to dust the gold nearly as much.

Lee

mockingbird812 11-07-2011 12:30 AM

Re: 1970 W30 Coupe from Canada
 
Beautiful car, beautiful setting. Nice photos Stefano!

oldzzy 11-07-2011 12:50 AM

Re: 1970 W30 Coupe from Canada
 
Also noticed that there is no trunk chrome trim either.

TimG 11-07-2011 03:47 PM

Re: 1970 W30 Coupe from Canada
 
Stefano, you're killing me with this car. Please don't post any more pictures, how am I supposed to work today?

Stefano 11-07-2011 04:10 PM

Re: 1970 W30 Coupe from Canada
 
Shane you are correct on both accounts.

This car was repainted a long time ago,and the trim was not reinstalled. From what I have been informed thus far, it was sometime in the 1980s. It is a nice driver, but certainly not a maximum standards type of car, at least not at this point.

I purchased it as original miles, it is now showing approx. 37k.

A good portion of the interior appears original. It seems to have original spiral type shocks on the front (will check date codes soon). It also has original riveted ball joints as well as other parts which are typical wear items, but drives nice and tight.

Sam,

It was just one of those Midwest Fall days and I just couldn't resist trying to capture that in the pics too.

My first up close and personal experience with a W-Machine, was with my next door neighbor. I was in my early teens.

The Swanson boys had a passion for Muscle cars. I could always expect to see something cool in the drive way. Jimmy's then girlfriend, who later became his wife, had a 1970 W30 Ragtop in Sebring Yellow, with a Black vinyl top and interior.

I just thought that it was one of the classiest and coolest sounding stock muscle cars I had ever seen.

Jimmy moved to Alaska before I went off to College and I have never seen him since.

I often wonder what may have happened to that car?

Then, while in college the owner of the &quot;Regulator&quot; a tavern in Macomb, Illinois, I believe his name was Les, had a W-30 Hardtop in this same color combination. I can't remember if it was a '70 or '71 and I seem to remember it being a 4 speed.

It had a trailer hitch and he used it to pull his boat in and out of the water.

Anybody close to Macomb remember Les' car?

mockingbird812 11-07-2011 04:19 PM

Re: 1970 W30 Coupe from Canada
 
IMO, of the 70-72 A bodies the 442s had the most muscular appearance particularly with the bulging rear &quot;haunches&quot;.

Bruce 11-07-2011 06:58 PM

Re: 1970 W30 Coupe from Canada
 
Jimmy moved to Alaska before I went off to College and I have never seen him since.

I often wonder what may have happened to that car?

I met Jimmy in the mid 80's, he was living in Kenai Alaska, driving his yellow W-30 vert. regularly.
I had recently finished a frame off restoration on a Nugget Gold W-30 I bought out of Seattle, this car also had a W-27 carrier in it.
Jimmy moved out of state sometime in the early 90's.
I'll post some pics of my car when I get the negatives put on a disc.

Stefano 11-08-2011 03:21 AM

Re: 1970 W30 Coupe from Canada
 
Bruce,

That is too cool. What a small world. Make certain to post the pics of your W30.

Stefano 11-08-2011 05:04 PM

Re: 1970 W30 Coupe from Canada
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stefano</div><div class="ubbcode-body">1970 W30 Intakes are cast aluminum and the words &quot;Oldsmobile W-455&quot; are cast on to the intake. For 1971, the casting was changed to read &quot;Olds-W-455.&quot; Some late 1970 cars are said to have, &quot;Olds W-455&quot; cast on the intake.

This intake may not be correct for an early 1970?

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...KEYRSSS083.jpg


http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...KEYRSSS081.jpg </div></div>


Turns out that the intake is correct for this W30.


&quot;Cars built after 3 Jan 70 should have the OLDS W-455 intake. We have never seen a December BUILT car have one. The earliest casting dates are in the mid December time frame. The Early OLDSMOBILE W-455 intakes are some of the hardest to locate. We have also seen date codes as early as 13 Aug 69 on the Oldsmobile intake. &quot;

LeeP 11-08-2011 05:12 PM

Re: 1970 W30 Coupe from Canada
 
That is correct mine is Feb build and says &quot;olds&quot;

Bruce 11-11-2011 03:37 AM

Re: 1970 W30 Coupe from Canada
 
here's a pic of the W-30

http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/r...60-R1-08-8.jpg

Bruce 11-11-2011 03:39 AM

Re: 1970 W30 Coupe from Canada
 
Another

http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/r...60-R1-02-2.jpg

LeeP 11-11-2011 04:02 AM

Re: 1970 W30 Coupe from Canada
 
Love gold cars, would look good parked next to mine.

Xplantdad 11-11-2011 04:04 AM

Re: 1970 W30 Coupe from Canada
 
Bruce's W30 had a W27 as well...look at the rear [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]


Bruce, you have the picture posting thing down...I can't wait to see what you post up! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif[/img]

grantprix 11-12-2011 06:03 PM

Re: 1970 W30 Coupe from Canada
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stefano</div><div class="ubbcode-body">1970 W30 4 speed Black with White Interior.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...KEYRSSS008.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...KEYRSSS005.jpg </div></div>

WOW!... Gorgeous!


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