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Hemicolt 12-01-2011 11:33 PM

Day 2 Vega
 
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"Four speed" ask me to post some pictures of my Vega project. Even though I'm doing some repop Motion parts, I'll call it a Day 2 build.

Hemicolt 12-01-2011 11:39 PM

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Engine is a BBC with GM production aluminum heads. Trans is a T-101 with a mag. case, Hone-O-Drive and 12 bolt.

Hemicolt 12-01-2011 11:44 PM

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I made a copy of my original Hooker mount.

x Baldwin Motion 12-02-2011 01:00 AM

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Nice. Is that Vega all metal?!! Never saw one that clean, not even in the 70's... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/Can-I-Have-It.gif[/img]

mr.4speed 12-02-2011 01:00 AM

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nice work! what shift boot do you plan on using?

Hemicolt 12-02-2011 01:15 AM

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Thank you. Yes, it's all metal. I had the car shipped to me from San Jose. There was a couple of small areas around the windshield and an area under the right side glass.
I figured out a long time ago that it's better to pay out the nose for grandmas car than it is to fix rust.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: x Baldwin Motion</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nice. Is that Vega all metal?!! Never saw one that clean, not even in the 70's... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/Can-I-Have-It.gif[/img] </div></div>

Hemicolt 12-02-2011 01:19 AM

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Thank you.
I have two nos Ram Rod boots. One will get trimmed down a little. I'll post a picture of another Vega that has the same boot modification.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: four speed</div><div class="ubbcode-body">nice work! what shift boot do you plan on using? </div></div>

brent396 12-02-2011 01:21 AM

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Very cool Vega [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]

MosportGreen66 12-02-2011 03:08 AM

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wow nice work!

mockingbird812 12-02-2011 03:14 AM

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nIce looking project Chandler. Did you have to modify the tunnel to accomodate the Hone-O-Drive?

PxTx 12-02-2011 03:30 AM

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This looks a lot like the RR I have in my 65. I think it is the earliest design. I noticed the Tee for the up and down gate is silver. Was the an improvment you made to a metal handle?

My RR has a Hurst Tee with the word Hurst in a sparkle sticker. I took it off and stashed it away. Did this one have something similar on it originally?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chandler</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thank you.
I have two nos Ram Rod boots. One will get trimmed down a little. I'll post a picture of another Vega that has the same boot modification.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: four speed</div><div class="ubbcode-body">nice work! what shift boot do you plan on using? </div></div> </div></div>

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbt..._p004_0_74.jpg

whitetop 12-02-2011 03:35 AM

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It's refreshing to see an untubbed Vega. Super nice car and great workmanship.

Hemicolt 12-02-2011 12:02 PM

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No. It fit in with little room to spare.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mockingbird812</div><div class="ubbcode-body">nIce looking project Chandler. Did you have to modify the tunnel to accomodate the Hone-O-Drive? </div></div>

Hemicolt 12-02-2011 12:10 PM

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The shifter in that picture is not mine. I used it for reference to show how I will trim the boot for my shifter. The shifter I'm using is shown on page one with the tunnel modification. It has the flat reverse lever. My shifter will use the black T for the lift gate.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pxtx</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This looks a lot like the RR I have in my 65. I think it is the earliest design. I noticed the Tee for the up and down gate is silver. Was the an improvment you made to a metal handle?

My RR has a Hurst Tee with the word Hurst in a sparkle sticker. I took it off and stashed it away. Did this one have something similar on it originally?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chandler</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thank you.
I have two nos Ram Rod boots. One will get trimmed down a little. I'll post a picture of another Vega that has the same boot modification.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: four speed</div><div class="ubbcode-body">nice work! what shift boot do you plan on using? </div></div> </div></div>

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbt..._p004_0_74.jpg </div></div>

Hemicolt 12-02-2011 12:12 PM

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Thank you.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: whitetop</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's refreshing to see an untubbed Vega. Super nice car and great workmanship. </div></div>

owners2 12-02-2011 03:18 PM

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Looken good , keep the pics coming.

markinnaples 12-02-2011 03:24 PM

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Looks great so far!

What do you envision it looking like at the end? Non-tubbed but a little extra tire tucked in or old-school tires sticking out from the fenders? Colors?

Nice work so far.

Hemicolt 12-02-2011 04:26 PM

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Thanks guys. I'm 99% sure the car will go orange, but can't decide on shade. Everyone keeps saying Hugger orange, but I'm thinking the factory orange for that year. What do you guys think?
Car will not be tubbed. Wheels and tires will be Cragar S/S and Pro Tracs. This is a picture of my friend Todds car. His is just about finished. We are going to try to bring both cars out at the same time, his with a small block, mine with the big block.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: markinnaples</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Looks great so far!

What do you envision it looking like at the end? Non-tubbed but a little extra tire tucked in or old-school tires sticking out from the fenders? Colors?

Nice work so far. </div></div>

Hemicolt 12-02-2011 04:38 PM

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Does anyone on this site have a picture of the Motion dual pumps mounted on a car?
I have two Walbro / Dupree pumps and I plan on fabbing the tube pieces that will make both units into one. However, I have never seen one mounted on a car. I may need to post this question under Baldwin Motion.

Hemicolt 12-03-2011 02:04 AM

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These are parts that will go on the car.

Hemicolt 12-03-2011 02:06 AM

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I know around 1970 or so, Motion went to the Mark 10 box, but I like the way the Grant / Clifford style looks. What do you guys think?

Hemicolt 12-03-2011 02:08 AM

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This is as close as I will probably get to the correct plug wires. They are 7mm, yellow ones. I refuse to pay 1000.00 for the correct ones..lol

whitetop 12-03-2011 02:34 AM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chandler</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks guys. I'm 99% sure the car will go orange, but can't decide on shade. Everyone keeps saying Hugger orange, but I'm thinking the factory orange for that year. What do you guys think?
</div></div>

I would go with a a factory Vega color. The Lime green color on Vega's or factory silver would look nice accented with a Motion stripe of some sort

Hemicolt 12-03-2011 02:43 AM

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I've struggled with the Motion stripe. Looks good on the hatchbacks, but I can't figure out how to transition onto the back of the car and have it look right. I've not ruled out panel paint with metal flake.

PxTx 12-03-2011 03:02 AM

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You've got some nice stuff there Tracy. I've spoken to the Walboro engineer who was in charge of the duplex and triplex pumps. He did warn me that the rubber in them will not hold up to today's fuel and that rebuild kits are getting hard to find.

On the upside, it only seems to be the rubber bellows that fails and I did hear some talk at the MCACN show that somone may be producing an modern fuel friendly bellows.

The ignition parts are spot one and beautiful.

The cool can might be worth making a bypass, as they are a great place to develop vapor lock on a street driven car. I don't know how well a V8 Vega gets all that heat out of the engine bay. You can then have it for show, and with a switch of the valves, you can actually get the gains at the strip.

The Grant box is certainly the one I would go with. I've seen it on some older Corvette's and I beleive either would be correct, neither being more correct than the other.

Ignition wires are probably the lowest priority for me, and the ones you have look great.

whitetop 12-03-2011 03:05 AM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chandler</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've struggled with the Motion stripe. Looks good on the hatchbacks, but I can't figure out how to transition onto the back of the car and have it look right. I've not ruled out panel paint with metal flake. </div></div>

I just went back and looked at your pics again and noticed you started with a GT. I would put all the GT emblems/bottom moldings back on it, paint the bottom black etc and use a stock Vega Paint with the stock GT stripe on the hood and trunk.

Vega GT's look so clean. Plus I kinda like the idea of this is how Joel would have done either a new car or a used car conversion at this time and since the car would have been new(er) he probably would have kept the stock paint

I also like the panel paint idea but looks like you are trying to be period correct to a certain strict era, If this is the case I would use pearls and candies with ribbons stripes and scroll work etc. Metalflake was pretty much dead by the time this car would have been built..but hey my Mustang was flaked in 1974 but it was not the norm (and the original builder was mad at the painter). 1973-1976 WAS the era of pearls and candies and that is how I am going to redo my car.Plus flake is so bellybutton anymore.

I have some good pics I will post in the next few days.

Again please do what you like but this is how I look at it.

Hemicolt 12-03-2011 04:53 AM

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That's another thing I was worried about. I may use a modern electric pump, hidden under the car, and mount the bellows pumps inside the car for looks. Either run dummy hoses to them or gut them and have fuel flow through.
The cool can will be mounted where the battery tray was, I've mounted new style plastic ones on customers street cars with no problems. But...you are right, we are talking about a big block Vega. So we will see.
Thanks for the input.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pxtx</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You've got some nice stuff there Tracy. I've spoken to the Walboro engineer who was in charge of the duplex and triplex pumps. He did warn me that the rubber in them will not hold up to today's fuel and that rebuild kits are getting hard to find.

On the upside, it only seems to be the rubber bellows that fails and I did hear some talk at the MCACN show that somone may be producing an modern fuel friendly bellows.</div></div>

Hemicolt 12-03-2011 05:00 AM

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Thanks for the input. I see what you are saying on the paint. I'm trying to make the car look to be from the early to mid-seventies era. I guess I'm still learning about some of this stuff. The hillbillies were still doing metal flake into the late seventies here. So I guess they were behind the times like everything else..lol
But anything goes now.


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I just went back and looked at your pics again and noticed you started with a GT. I would put all the GT emblems/bottom moldings back on it, paint the bottom black etc and use a stock Vega Paint with the stock GT stripe on the hood and trunk.

Vega GT's look so clean. Plus I kinda like the idea of this is how Joel would have done either a new car or a used car conversion at this time and since the car would have been new(er) he probably would have kept the stock paint

I also like the panel paint idea but looks like you are trying to be period correct to a certain strict era, If this is the case I would use pearls and candies with ribbons stripes and scroll work etc. Metalflake was pretty much dead by the time this car would have been built..but hey my Mustang was flaked in 1974 but it was not the norm (and the original builder was mad at the painter). 1973-1976 WAS the era of pearls and candies and that is how I am going to redo my car.Plus flake is so bellybutton anymore.

I have some good pics I will post in the next few days.

Again please do what you like but this is how I look at it. [/quote]

TheNovaMan 12-03-2011 07:08 AM

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SERIOUSLY digging the Hurst Ram Rod!

Hemicolt 12-03-2011 03:39 PM

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Thanks.
I've been sending the reverse stick &amp; lift gate rod when having the shifter rechromed. Knox Custom Chrome in Knoxville, TN. will do all three pieces for less than 100.00.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TheNovaMan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">SERIOUSLY digging the Hurst Ram Rod! </div></div>

Hemicolt 12-04-2011 04:07 AM

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65 year model 12 bolt for the rear. Brackets where transfered over from the original Vega housing.

Hemicolt 12-04-2011 04:11 AM

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Got the car primered. Almost ready for paint.

Plowman 12-04-2011 04:14 AM

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Looking good and cool. *Paul

Hemicolt 12-04-2011 04:15 AM

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Griffin built a custom radiator so I could mount it under the core support. The center part of the core support is removable which will make engine installation easier.

PxTx 12-04-2011 04:23 AM

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I love Vega's. Have some great memories from my youth hopping in on some black vinyl seats in the summertime on Mom's 1972 GT. Great work and thanks for a solid Vega thread!

Hemicolt 12-04-2011 04:26 AM

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The Vega didn't come with an oil pressure gauge. And since I am going to use the factory tach, I added a gauge in place of the clock.

Hemicolt 12-04-2011 04:27 AM

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Cragar tag frame.

Hemicolt 12-04-2011 04:32 AM

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I don't know how many people have ever saw a big Block in one of these cars up close, but I thought you guys may like to see some close up details.

mockingbird812 12-04-2011 05:21 AM

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Wow <span style="font-style: italic"><span style="font-weight: bold">plenty</span></span> [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif[/img] of room. How big are your header tubes? Looking real good. Nice touches! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

PxTx 12-04-2011 05:41 AM

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Oh, there's a reason Joel only made 1 bb street car Vega.

Nice work Tracy


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