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Webster's 67 Bel Air Conversion
My friend and Power Tour companion Mark Webster sold his Big Block 66 Impala last year and ended up buying an original paint 67 Bel Air Arizona car to replace it......All original 283, powerglide, Factory A/C car.............But......After watching Charley and his LS cars being trouble free during our trips........He has "Seen the Light" and went to the LS side (like me)......LOL......Just so happens I have no projects going on.......So.........Here we go ......another build thread.......LOL.....Here's the starting point.............
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wheres the popcorn. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]
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move over, don't hog the couch... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
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Ahhh...as it should be!
You guys don't have a ton of time to do this...since the tour starts on June 6th...But knowing you, it'll be done in 3 weeks [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img] |
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Somebody crack me a beer to go with the popcorn! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]
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This is gonna be way cool, if it keeps a stock-ish look and doesn't get all "pro-touring" with 18" wheels etc to go with the LS!
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I know. That look with 18's is terrible. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...0-dsc_1581.jpg
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LS conversion?!? And another nice example of old iron bites the dust!
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Started on the disassembly today.....Jacked the car up and went underneath..........Can you say WOW!!!........This car is so pristine it's crazy.........just a little surface rust and that's it......I'm posting a lot of pic's that show nothing other than the condition of the car........Then with the engine out........Mark did some checking around and we are going to keep the Factory A/C in place........Here are some pic's...........
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More........
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...E678AA49BE.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...D4FE9FE93C.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...ABD30AD997.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...7F1266D8C9.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...808C79CBA7.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...A2CA485061.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...890F1C0F33.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...A6657AA71F.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...88C3E3F346.jpg That's all for today................Time for a Nap!!! |
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Dang rust free AZ cars [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/mad.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif[/img]
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That thing looks really solid. You don't find them like that in the rust belt.
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Jealous!
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Clean and CLEAN!!! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/shocked.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
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Can I see in the trunk? I wanna see if you have room for me on HRPT Love the 67-68 lines!
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Is there such thing as a car in Arizona w/o air conditioning?
Nice to see it up here & going to be driven. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/burnout.gif[/img] |
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I still say -- with all that room under the hood ... it would look a heck of a lot better with a BBC instead of a LS. Just sayin' ... TAZ
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But the idea is to have something that runs better. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/burnout.gif[/img]
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">But the idea is to have something that runs better. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/burnout.gif[/img] </div></div>
Damn, that's cold. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/eek.gif[/img] |
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You'd better investigate the application of that large pulley on the AC compressor. You might be surprised..... I'm sure it's not the original for that 283.
Verne [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/scholar.gif[/img] |
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UGH!@#$
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I know, I know -- to each their own. IMHO a classic with an LS stuffed between the fenders is like a good looking gal with a terrible case of buck teeth ...
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Everything looks good until you open the hood or she smiles ...
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I didn't have any plans to work on Mark's car today.....But.......When I got home and opened the garage door the engine was calling me......there were a couple unknowns........the engine had a GM Muscle car pan that was already on it from it's previous installation in a 55 Chevy......so......We had talked about getting a Holley 302-1 pan because I knew that one would work out with the engine raised slightly with the motor mount adaptor plates like I made for my Impala install.. .......So......the first thing I did was to wash off the slight amount of Oil that was on the front crossmember.....(Probably the first time it was ever wet)...then I installed the adaptor plates .....installed the new mounts......and dropped it in......Took all of about 45 minutes......LOL......Everything fit perfectly with the exception of the pan sticking down below the crossmember by about two inches........But.....since the car will not be lowered it won't be a problem........I didn't install the trans yet........I will be clearancing the tunnel and installing it from the bottom..............Moving along.....
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Well done [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/Can-I-Have-It.gif[/img]
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Lookin good Ken ! Jon K.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: earntaz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Everything looks good until you open the hood or she smiles ... </div></div> https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...1-img_1569.jpg
They can be made to look like they belong there, run better, not leak, overheat or leave you working on it on a long trip all while getting great gas mileage. If it is going to just sit like most musclecars do by all means leave it stock. But if you really want to put miles on it you will have alot more fun with a LS engine. It is by far the best engine Chevrolet has ever built. Just evolution. I have alot more cars with old school engines than I have LS but the only one I would take on a long trip is the LS. |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: earntaz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Everything looks good until you open the hood or she smiles ... </div></div> https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...1-img_1569.jpg
They can be made to look like they belong there, run better, not leak, overheat or leave you working on it on a long trip all while getting great gas mileage. If it is going to just sit like most musclecars do by all means leave it stock. But if you really want to put miles on it you will have alot more fun with a LS engine. It is by far the best engine Chevrolet has ever built. Just evolution. I have alot more cars with old school engines than I have LS but the only one I would take on a long trip is the LS. </div></div> Like Charley said...........It's more fun to drive them......rather than owning them........Two separate things.........The first Power Tour we went on in 2005 I drove my 66 Chevelle Convert......all stock 396 SS car with a Powerglide,.........drove from Milwaukee to Orlando and back......That was the last time driving without an overdrive trans, among other things for creature comforts........after building and driving 6 Power Tour cars over the years......The Chevelle with the LSA engine is just insane......and it's a Puppy compared to Charleys Camaro.........I know a lot of people don't like "Ruining" the cars by swapping the drivetrains out......But........It's the only way to go if you want to drive them any distance....... |
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I know this is Yenko.net and a site for supercars but it in my mind it has evolved into encompassing all kinds of cars. Are many others like Earntaz offend by the conversion to LS on this car ? He has every right to want it left alone. Just wondering.
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I like watching these threads. Thanks for sharing Kwhizz. Keep
up the great work. You must be getting to know all the tricks on installing these. Jason |
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boo hoo it's a lowly 2bbl 283 belair what's the difference whether it gets a bigger small block or a big block or an LS engine. looking forward to seeing this post car evolve into a performance car. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/burnout.gif[/img]
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If I had the money, time and skills I would throw an LS and a six speed in my numbers matching 1969 Corvette in a hearbeat.
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I love the LS conversion stuff... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif[/img]
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Count me in as one of those who enjoy the evolution of the hobby/sport. If I happen to get the car I'm trying to get now, I'd love to switch out the small block in it now eventually with an LS of some sort. And, I'd love to see if I could change the LS to look a little more old school with a different set of "valve" covers and possibly get a set of fuel injectors that look like the old school Hilborn set ups.
As long as we have space for the old stuff, I'm glad to see some of the new stuff added as well. I think there's room for everybody. Cheers. |
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I am a true lover of the "stock" muscle/supercars, but I am more intrigued as I watch all these LS builds. re purposing, using modern drivetrains has been going on since the start of the automotive era. Mercs in the fities, t buckets and duece coupes in the sixties. Preserve the history, have fun with the others. I'm taking notes.
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And you can make them presentable after installation.........Here's a pic from my Impala
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alss</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am a true lover of the "stock" muscle/supercars, but I am more intrigued as I watch all these LS builds. re purposing, using modern drivetrains has been going on since the start of the automotive era. Mercs in the fities, t buckets and duece coupes in the sixties. Preserve the history, have fun with the others. I'm taking notes. </div></div>
Al......You are absolutely correct.......Preserving History with restored original factory Muscle cars is one thing......they are more of an Investment than being a Car..........Having been on both sides (although not as deep as most).......Like I said in an earlier post......I enjoy "Driving" more than "Owning"..........and I know there are some that take great offense to these modifications.....and that's O.K..............I myself have just evolved into a different place...........(With Charley pushing me all the way......LOL)........ Ken |
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At this point in life, I prefer traditional builds just because everywhere I look there seems to be an modern/LS muscle car build and turbos and fuel injection and big wheels...there just feels like an over-saturation of those builds. I understand they are very popular, magazines sponsors are influencing the content to drive sales of their LS products etc.
Since I don't subscribe to magazines any more, I do appreciate Ken's threads and his documentation, craftsmanship and humor. I'm not offended by the build, but I might not click on the thread for several days at a time. I look forward to seeing an LS build which tries to have a more nostalgic feel. Somebody may one day figure out a way to make the motor look like and older sbc. It wouldn't surprise me if it has been done and I just haven't seen it- I'm sure my taste is in a small minority. Now since the LS motors make so much hp, I realize the appropriate braking system might not fit within a 15" wheel. I can't help that big wheels are one of my biggest turn offs visually- at least for muscle cars of the 1960's. Cars form the 1980/1990's like the Mustangs Camaros, Buicks etc I am a but more open minded, but I still prefer a period theme over modern ques. At the end of the day though, I feel Yenko.net is has plenty of the traditional stuff which is harder to find, and enough diversity like Ken's builds for my taste evolve more naturally- what I want rather than when I grew up and the magazines of the 1980's & 1990's heavily influenced my perception of cool. Not every thread hits a home run with me, but this IS my favorite place on the net. Thanks to everyone who shares their passion here! |
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