Gary's 65.....Final Chapter
 

A little past history of Gary's car........A couple years ago we added Ridetech Coil-over suspension...Disc Brakes.....A/C......Aluminum Radiator and Electric Fans........anticipating the future swap of a LS engine into the car........Well.....The time is here.....Gary ordered a GM connect and cruise set-up........LS3 (480 H.P.) and a 4L70 trans.....
So......Gary pulled the big block out at his house and brought the car over yesterday at 10 am......We swapped out the LS3 pan for a Holley 302-1 pan and some motor mount adaptor plates that I made up to raise the engine slightly to clear the front crossmember.......the car was originally a 6 cyl Powerglide car.....at some time in its past it was converted over to a 454 /turbo 400 car....... and during that swap, there was a second set of trans crossmember mounts welded in for the turbo 400 position......so....we had two sets of mounts on the frame......Works out easy for me as the new set-up uses the rear holes on the front mounts........a little sawzall action and I'll make up a couple small plates tomorrow to fill in the gap between the mounts and the everything is as simple as it can get......anyhow.....by 2 0'clock had the engine in and were finished for the day....
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Cool stuff Ken. Needless to say I am paying especially close attention to the build this time. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif[/img]

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The LS master at work once again!

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After getting the engine and trans in we checked for clearance issues with the trans........had only one spot that need a little massaging.........pulled the engine out and fixed the clearance issue correctly......and before putting the engine in for the final time.......we installed the wiring harnesses.........LOL.....I had a plug for the MAP sensor that didn't fit.......after a while I called Pace Performance where the engine came from and talked to a Tech guy..........I explained the problem.......His response was classic........&quot;Did you read the Instructions&quot;..........then added.....&quot;look in the Envelope in the box for the adaptor harness&quot;...........Duhhh!!!.................. Anyhow we got it back in with all the wires and then installed the Kwik Performance front drive set-up.......Moving along

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Re: Gary's 65.....Final Chapter
 

There are vendors -- then there are real vendors ...

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Update..............Got a lot of little Important things done.........Fuel system, all engine mounts in and ready to go......got the control modules and fuse panel installed.......(notice all the wires are almost gone).......some of the old wires are still in place and will be removed as required.....Driveshaft was shortened a couple inches.....the Air Intake system will be finished today along with mounting the DBW gas pedal.........Getting closer


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She`ll be ready for Mundelein next week....see you there [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Dan

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So how many $$ are needed for a conversion like this?

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Excellent work Ken! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif[/img]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: earntaz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So how many $$ are needed for a conversion like this? </div></div>

Great question....this would be a combined price of the engine, trans, driveshaft, wiring harness, fuel tank mods, etc. etc. a complete LS conversion.

No labor price.

Dan

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Ken and I recently had this conversation based on an upcoming project of mine. Don't quote me but Ken listed radiator, engine, transmission, wiring, computer, oil pan, gauges, trans and engine mounts, driveshaft, fuel tank, pump and lines, cooling fan and several incidentals and I think we ended up being somewhere between $12-17k total installed if I recall correctly. Power steering and A/C were extra add ons.

Re: Gary's 65.....Final Chapter
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Postsedan</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: earntaz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So how many $$ are needed for a conversion like this? </div></div>

Great question....this would be a combined price of the engine, trans, driveshaft, wiring harness, fuel tank mods, etc. etc. a complete LS conversion.

No labor price.

Dan</div></div>

Ken?

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$12-13K using all brand new components from GM in their Connect and Cruise Kit (with Warranty).......LS3.....480 H.P......4L70E transmission....Torque Converter....Harnesses, Modules, DBW pedal, sensors...Etc......A good Radiator and fans $600-900 dollars.....Gas Tank and pump...$600-$1500.....That would be the basic package not including Exhaust $600-800......Like anything you can cheap out on parts ......then do it the correct way later and spending all the money you saved the first time around doing it the correct &quot;Quality&quot; way the second time......The one thing I have learned over the last couple of years is that I can't afford the &quot;Cheap&quot; stuff.....LOL.....Then again if you are upgrading the drivetrain on an old car.....that's just the start......Brakes...A/C.....Suspension ,....Etc......
But......I've been there with the mid sixties Muscle car scene........But......Those cars are then, and these are now......No Comparison (If you want to actually drive them).........Just remember.....This all started because of Charley........He was way ahead of the curve...I remember on the first Power Tour we did in 05 from Milwaukee to Orlando.......driving my stock 66 SS 396 Chevelle without overdrive trying to keep up with everyone on the highway at 4000 RPM..........LOL.....

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Thanks Ken ...

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I love spending her money....

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It took me a couple install issues to figure out that the &quot;cheap&quot; stuff does end up costing more. &quot;Close enough&quot; isn't &quot;good enough&quot; for me. Neat project!

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Thank you Ken [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Dan

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One week of just a couple hours a day........Here we are......Got the air intake system completed.....Had to find a new spot to mount the Power Steering reservoir as the inlet tube needed the space.....Got that resolved......hooked up the starter wires and spun the engine over.....Ordered fittings for the transmission cooler lines where they come out of the trans........Wanted to get that completed, but.....I guess I ordered the wrong fittings as they didn't fit........Darn.....We also got the correct Serpentine belt installed along with the Radiator.........Also got the gas pedal installed and plugged in...Getting closer.....

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Completely top notch. to say the least... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif[/img]

Re: Gary's 65.....Final Chapter
 

time to change your ID name to LSwhizz dang you don't mess around

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Update........Got all the wiring except for the dash finished.......got the shift linkage and Dakota Digital Position Indicator finished.......Got the Power Steering hoses all installed........Got the Radiator and Heater hoses finished......All that's left to do is to get the Transmission cooling lines installed (Hopefully the correct fittings will show up today).......Now it's time to get inside and get the Dakota Digital dash installed.........Then off to the Exhaust shop.......The Engine compartment looks a lot better with all the wires gone........

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Now all you need is an x-pipe [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img]

Dan

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The master is almost done! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif[/img]

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Nice job LSWhiz! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif[/img]

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That's a very nice install Ken....as usual!

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Got a lot done today.........Took the dash out and got the Dakota Digital gauges installed......Got the transmission cooler fittings and lines installed......(thanks Tom Munch)......Radiator is full.....Just need to get the Dakota Digital modules hooked up so we have the gauges working when we start it......Going for exhaust on Monday.....

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I have this vision of earntaz talking to himself...&quot;I hate LS I hate LS I hate LS...Well maybe I can kinda like this a little..............&quot; [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/CharleySucks.gif[/img]

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Very nice job again DigitaldashWhizz [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif[/img]

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I love the non pushbutton AM radio. Keep up the good work.


Jason

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have this vision of earntaz talking to himself...&quot;I hate LS I hate LS I hate LS...Well maybe I can kinda like this a little..............&quot; [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/CharleySucks.gif[/img]</div></div>

I love BBC, I love BBC, I love BBC -- cheaper than spending 15K for the same thrill ... LOL TAZ [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/CharleySucks.gif[/img]

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Ask Gary after about 6 months of driving it. :-)

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Gary has spent some time in my Impala...........That's why the &quot;Up-Grade&quot; to LS Power..........

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No issues -- to each their own ... but I have to admit, they are cool looking engines without all the plastic used to cover em' up ... TAZ

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Two weeks working on it just a couple of hours a day.........Will it start ????

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Nice! When Gary's car is done should I bring mine up? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] These LS swaps have really grown on me.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SS427</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nice! When Gary's car is done should I bring mine up? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] These LS swaps have really grown on me. </div></div>

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Yep, I read that many weeks ago.

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Two weeks ago.............

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Today............Off for Exhaust on Monday

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And...another happy customer [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]