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owners2 11-30-2018 06:01 PM

1966 Chevelle SS
 
I'm now the New owner of the 66 Chevelle that was posted in the E-bay add section. Factory Black car bought New from BILL ALLEN Chevrolet. Anyoneone know anything on this Dealership?

fsc66 11-30-2018 06:09 PM

Bill Allen
 
What info are you looking for, there's loads of old ads?

Paul

owners2 11-30-2018 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by fsc66 (Post 1423954)
What info are you looking for, there's loads of old ads?

Paul

I was wondering if there was any way to find out info on this dealer & possibly the cars paperwork or I just need to Pay for an NCRS report. I have a pic with the Bill Allen emblem on the back but I cant seem to get it to load.

owners2 11-30-2018 06:43 PM

Also trying to figure out which 396 the vehicle had in it.

cook_dw 11-30-2018 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by owners2 (Post 1423962)
also trying to figure out which 396 the vehicle had in it.




l35

owners2 11-30-2018 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cook_dw (Post 1423967)
l35

I guess there is a way to figure that out from the Vin ?

MYSTERYCHEVELLE 11-30-2018 09:08 PM

Not sure which car you bought?

If it's believed or was sold as numbers matching meaning original drivetrain, I hope you verified that before buying but no, the VIN tells you nothing of the original engine that would have come in the car. The engine deck stamp will tell you what the Hp rating is. Again if the original engine is in fact in the car now. If it's not, only factory docs will tell you whether it was the base 396/325hp or the optional 396/360hp. Doubt it's the 396/375hp of which only 3099 were released.

The suffix code on the deck stamp will tell you whether it's 325 or 360. ED EDH EF etc. but you can't rely on that as FACT. Lots of restamps out there and knowing what the deck stamp for your car's assembly plant at the time your car was assembled ( engine ) plays into this as well. Each plant did things differently. Too many people just LOOK to see if the deck stamp MATCHES the VIN TAG. Plus the vin will be stamped on the transmission too if it was supposed to be original drivetrain.

Enjoy your car no matter what and post some pics

GotGrunt 11-30-2018 11:37 PM

The car has AC so it can’t be an L78. It was either an L35 or L34.

muscle_collector 12-01-2018 12:57 AM

if you need a 360hp engine, I pulled one out of a Chevelle I parted out back in the early 80's.

bbbentley 12-01-2018 01:05 AM

Bill Allen was in K.C. Missouri. He later supplied Dick Harrell with copos and other cars to undergo the D.H. Modifications and sold through D.H. I have a few emblems. Not sure which one you need. Sounds like a great car. I have several Bbc pieces for 66-7s just an fyi should you be looking?

fsc66 12-01-2018 03:12 PM

Chevelle
 
If you have the Allen emblem on the rear car was probably sold from there, however it could have been a trade and ordered through another dealer. NCRS report will tell you that. Nothing short of original paperwork will tell you options and drivetrain. There are some telltale things in some models that can help determine, power train info but again, anything can be installed later. Post the trim tag if you get a chance or you can e-mail to me at [email protected] and I can decode that for you if you want.

Paul

GotGrunt 12-01-2018 03:39 PM

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Here are some pictures, more can be found in the ebay completed listing.

bobm67 12-01-2018 04:23 PM

Trim Tag decoded
KAN Kansans City plant

10A first week of Oct.
A-A black exterior paint top and bottomhttps://www.yenko.net/forum/
E tinted glass all
2K A/C
M power glide trans.
S rear speaker
5Y deluxe seat belts

MYSTERYCHEVELLE 12-01-2018 07:41 PM

A Very Early car. Oct 1965.

Got a Malibu Grill in trunk and Leaves:)

If there's a Knee Knocker Tach by any chance still attached to lower dash. The redline will tell you Hp rating. In reality, it doesn't matter... Original engine is gone so even replacing with a similar won't make it original. With that rust, you have bigger issues to deal with.
At least it's not melting into ground

L78M22Rag 12-01-2018 09:24 PM

Still a cool Chevelle... congrats! What are your plans for the car?

KingKoser06 12-02-2018 04:49 AM

Should be a cool build. The car can be anything you want it to be.

Keep us updated on plans and progress!

Jonesy 12-02-2018 02:08 PM

In the auction, the rear was missing. Did you ever find out where it is?

owners2 12-02-2018 02:47 PM

The owner had bought the car years ago with No Rear end. My thoughts were to build it with a 427 I have & paint it back Black with a Black or Red interior. Not sure if I'm gonna put it back with Stock or Modified suspension.

69LM1 12-02-2018 05:33 PM

I posted that in the ebay section while I was surfing the salvage section of ebay. Glad someone here was able to get it.

That can be a nice car on an ambitious project. One recommendation would be to have one of the experts in Chevelle's (not sure who maybe others know like MacNeish is on Camaros) to look at it before you start any work. It will never be numbers matching but at least you can (possibly) get a certification as to the big block SS providence.

Barring that, take plenty of pics before restoring to memorialize.

2500 was not a bad price.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1966-Chevro....m43663.l44720

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/uJIAA...Bk/s-l1600.jpg

Rich

GotGrunt 12-02-2018 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 69LM1 (Post 1424269)
I posted that in the ebay section while I was surfing the salvage section of ebay. Glad someone here was able to get it.

That can be a nice car on an ambitious project. One recommendation would be to have one of the experts in Chevelle's (not sure who maybe others know like MacNeish is on Camaros) to look at it before you start any work. It will never be numbers matching but at least you can (possibly) get a certification as to the big block SS providence.

Barring that, take plenty of pics before restoring to memorialize.

2500 was not a bad price.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1966-Chevro....m43663.l44720

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/uJIAA...Bk/s-l1600.jpg

Rich

The 138 VIN already proves the car being a big block SS. IMO, I wouldn’t waste any money on certifying that car, just build it into what you want. Like you said, it will never be a numbers car but at least it’s a real SS.

ban617 12-04-2018 09:40 AM

That’s still cool an original big block ,black 66 , ivory interior

67since67 12-04-2018 02:46 PM

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That’s still cool an original big block ,black 66 , ivory interior

This could be the "After" pic.

GotGrunt 12-04-2018 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 67since67 (Post 1424596)
This could be the "After" pic.

LOL yes, “after” a boat load of money :D Definitely a sharp color combination.

owners2 12-14-2018 07:56 PM

Got my NCRS paperwork today & it say's Dealer code 423 in Zone 5. Has an Original Bill Allen Emblem on the back but the paperwork say's Bill Ireland Chevrolet Kansas City Missouri. Is that Correct ???

GotGrunt 12-14-2018 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by owners2 (Post 1426011)
Got my NCRS paperwork today & it say's Dealer code 423 in Zone 5. Has an Original Bill Allen Emblem on the back but the paperwork say's Bill Ireland Chevrolet Kansas City Missouri. Is that Correct ???

It may have been ordered by Bill Ireland Chevrolet and then traded to Bill Allen as a dealer swap, or the emblem could have been added at any time as a used car. In any case, the NCRS doesn’t lie.

fsc66 12-15-2018 03:17 PM

Dealer trades
 
Very common to see dealer trades like this especially with dealers so close together. Common for the new dealer to install their own name plate on the vehicle also.

Paul

Mr70 12-15-2018 03:41 PM

Was there indeed a Bill Ireland Chevrolet in KC Mo?

fsc66 12-15-2018 03:58 PM

Bill Ireland Chevrolet
 
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