Summit opening??
 

This will be interesting. It was bound to happen somewhere soon:

https://www.cleveland19.com/2020/04/...en-gov-dewine/

Well, I can't say I disagree with him.

I am in heath care and I am seeing what is happening first hand. If you are physically withdrawn from the current situation you do not realize what kind of snowball effect this virus has and how easily it spreads. Bill may save his business, but at what cost... hindsight is always 2020.
A couple thousand spectator show up to an even, it is a good possibility that there will be at least one a-systematic person. They could spreads the virus to a couple hundred people, those people take it to their family, loved ones and then to work. All that being said, Bill will have your $40 admission fee, so all is good....

Agree with Paul...it's not the right time to push the envelope.

I would rather not voice an opinion either way. Not my intention in posting. I am surprised that his insurance carrier is backing him. Seems like maybe a lot of potential liability here. Maybe the Governor will comment on this during the 2 o’clock daily report.

Why not have the races without spectators?
I will have to ad I did not watch the video.

I went to the drag strip, I guess it's been 3 weeks ago now. It was well into this beer virus thing. Just a test and tune night. Pretty crowded with cars but never really any spectators.

Personally I didn't see a problem with it. We were all isolated in our own cars all night. The closest I came in to contact with anyone was grabbing my time slips on my way past the timing shack.

When I asked a track official about being open his comment to me was they didn't feel this was going to affect them and their plans were to stay open for test sessions, just not having any big NHRA events until it blows over.

Made sense to me. I mean Arizona deemed golfing an essential business to stay open (:shocked:) and all the courses around my neck of the woods are crowded with groups of people riding around in golf carts and standing at the T's. If they feel they can do that through this pandemic I see no harm in drag racing.

However, I don't know how the virus situation is in Ohio. Here in Arizona it hasn't been as bad as other states.

But for that very reason is why states like Az. should be careful.
What was seen as a quiet safe zone,can snowball into a sudden hot spot.
"The number of confirmed COVID-19 cases and deaths in Arizona continues to rise.As of April 17,there have been 169 COVID-19 deaths in Arizona,a jump of 19 from the previous day.To date, there have been 4,507 confirmed cases of COVID-19 in Arizona. Maricopa County,with 2,404 cases,has the greatest number of confirmed cases of COVID-19 in Arizona."
https://azbigmedia.com/business/covi...s-jump-to-169/

I believe the #4 highest way people die annually in Az is respiratory issues, around 3400.

I was a tradesman for 25 years. I was laid off every year. 4-6 months. People need to stop crying. And unemployment is way easier. You sit at home and call it in.

Yea its a piece of cake Burd. When over 300,000 people in Ohio alone are trying to get there benefits it is not easy. I was lucky that after 2 1/2 weeks of calling 20-30 times a day, because of the website screwed up my claim, that I was able to get my claim straightened out. I have 2 friends that have been trying just as long and cant get there claim paid. This has not been easy for anyone. Then you have idiots like Bader who claim there hurting for money???? I am glad that Gov. DeWine made the tough and unpopular call to shut Ohio down when he did. If he had not we would be in big trouble. Everyone in Ohio has made (well almost everyone) the commitment to stop this and we do not need some ass hat to screw it up now. The whole country should be shut down until June 1 at the earliest.
Brian

And yet we keep our golf courses open. I don't think our state is taking this too seriously.

Bottom line is the economy needs to open back up soon or this country will have problems worse than this COVID 19 pandemic.

Rich

I agree. We have still been trying to do our part supporting the local businesses. We were just out last night running a couple errands, Home Depot etc... and wanted to stop and grab some dinner to take home. Every drive through was backed up out of the parking lots and into the streets. Chick Filet, Wendys, Culvers, it was like nothing I've ever seen before. Nice to see the people out supporting their favorite local restaurants. Panda Express had a 65 minute wait for carry out, lol. People are definitely out and about here in PV.

Sounds the same for deep dish Pizza around Chicago on any given day.
What used to be 20 min,is now an hour or more.

We order take out from our favorite restaurants - they are delivering - just to support them, and we love their food.

History will be kind to Gov. DeWine, he is a voice of reason and sanity and obviously cares about the people he governs.

I do agree that going to a test & tune session at a strip and grabbing your time slip is really no different than entering a McDonalds or Starbucks drive-thru (both of which I have done in the last week). But full-on events? C'mon. That is playing with fire.

Agree...a test & tune is great if there's a way to prevent bad behavior.

I agree with Brian. Listen to your governor. It's all about the almighty $$$$$. You can stay 6 feet away social distancing or 6 feet under if you get the virus. Stay safe everyone. God Bless America

We have a great test case brewing. When the dust clears we will have some good data

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.van...-is-trying/amp

Numidia dragway is opening on 5/1 with or without the governments blessing. I spoke to a lot of businesses that are still open because they are considered essential and they said they can get by with everything c!osed for two months but at month three they will be in trouble. We are entering month two.

A lot of older people move to Arizona because they have respiratory issues. So it would make sense that they would eventually die there.

Actually it’s 4th in US too at 160k and the The top 3 in AZ account for around 30 k and are common in all states and countries.

I'm not sure a number comparison is all that accurate when you take into account the amount of people living here compared to other states. A percentage might be more accurate?

Over 7 million people live in AZ and it's climbing, over 120,000 moved here in just the last year alone. I think close to 4 million just in Phoenix and is considered the 4th largest city in the country or something close to that.

I finally had the time to sit down and watch the video that started this thread. I can't say I disagree with him and some things he hinted at does make you wonder. I'm hoping things get back to normal at the projected May 1st date that Governor Ducey stated for Arizona when this first started. I'd hate to see this extended further.

Or re-bound and issue a Quarantine again later on down the line too.I know social distancing sucks for all of us,but I'd rather stay the course & do this NOW,then have to go through all this again in a few more months.Not to mention the tremendous strain that would put on our already strained Healthcare workers/Hospitals if we did.

The social distancing doesn't bother me so much, some might say I've practiced that for 40 years, lol. My cars have practiced social distancing for decades, I always park out in the boonies :D

What I'd like to see is things get back to normal. A lot of strangeness going on right now.

Another point of view... think about it

https://www.aier.org/article/stand-u...-m-wittkowski/

True stuff, but like many things it benefits from the advantage of hindsight which we are just now starting to get to. What if the lethality of Covid-19 turned out to be much more than we know now or originally anticipated? So we didn't close the schools, the kids got sick and say 25% of them died? Would that have been acceptable? We would have developed the herd immunity, but lost much of a generation. I'm sure we would have told our folks in government good job done, let's go to the races! We still don't fully understand the morphology of this disease. Why some get it with few symptoms and others, not just the old, get it and degrade rapidly to death. There are still folks out there that say its just another seasonal flu. To generalize a disease based on previous types of similar strains seems kind of foolhardy, but he does have the Phd!

I guess I'm one that hasn't been all that worried about it. I haven't even had a flu shot in 25 years, and never had the flu. I rarely even get a mild head cold, maybe once every 2-3 years. My wife and son are about the same. We just rarely ever get sick, we're pretty healthy people that practice good hygiene and stay in shape.
I would guess the elderly and people with underlying health conditions would be most at risk so I can understand the need for some of this social distancing, but it just hasn't been very consistent, least not here anyway.

I work from home anyway so I'm not around people much to begin with unless I have visitors or I run errands. My wife works for the government and military contracts so she's not shutting down. About the only person it's really changed here is my son, as he is finishing his college year at home on line and he doesn't mind that at all.

George Carlin had a funny skit many years ago about germs and immune systems that sounded very similar to this, lol.

This thread was started around the harsh reality that small businesses, which make up 70% of OUR economy, will struggle and/ or go under. The calamity this will cause could create more tragedy and yes death of major significance. Oil went to a penny today.
Unfortunately we are faced with the lesser of 2 evils, WE are. I’m sure we all have friends or even some of us where this hits home. Sheltering in place prolongs the disease and will cause it to come back. They are going to find that covid has been with us longer then we realize and individuals have already have the antibodies .
I feel for Summitt and hope that he can pull it off.
God Bless America!

Oil dropped to $-37.63 a barrel today.That means producers pay that amount to get rid of it.

I see it as an early sign of cabin fever....I have never met Mr. Bader ...the owner at Norwalk Raceway....rest assured if he opens the track ...Governor DeWine will have the welcoming committee there (Ohio National Guard). DeWine will start with a large fine and if that doesn’t get his attention ....it will escalate to some cell time with BUBBA !!!!

Unfortunately, I think him and many others are going to be willing to take that risk. You already see unrest happening people are protesting and if these governors prolong it till June I think there’s going to be bigger issues.

If I have to wait another 60 days to live 25 years...it’s easy math. I want the best for everyone...especially health

For those of us that are financially solvent that is easy to say. There are people who are struggling mightily and they happen to be a big part of the population. Bear in mind I pray for good health for every human but it is much worse for many around us, let alone the 6 trillion additional debt we are acquiring as a result. Our grandkids will inherent that.
I suspect the gentleman from Summitt would be a better advocate for this point then I.

Agree, and I think you'll see more of this if it carries on longer. 20 million people out of work reported on the news as of this morning and that number is growing. I understand the reasoning on both sides of it but there is going to be a breaking point.

Doug Ducey reported this morning he is going to start slowly opening up a few things in Arizona as the news reported that Arizona is one of only a handful of states that has been the least affected by the beer virus. Only 5500 cases state wide as of today out of over 7 million people. Just over 200 deaths, which seems low compared to some.

I guess this is going to be a state by state deal as governors see fit. Some states are much worse than others. The news also reported Georgia and Florida are among some states starting to open things back up.

If those states want to be the Canary in the coal mine,I'll gladly stay inside and observe.
Then there's this..https://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...hoqzwUo1fTrw9Q

I say lets go get some more test and tune in

I'm ready :3gears: