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SeattleCarGuy 10-29-2020 09:00 PM

Please pick apart my L78 Camaro
 
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Just bought this '67 L78 Camaro. It is frame off restoration, but I would call it a "nice driver" quality restoration. I hope to actually enjoy it a bit more than some of my trailer queens, but I want to make it reasonably "more correct" than it is.

From what I can obviously see and what I am already addressing:

(1) Has aftermarket aluminum radiator (will get a more correct appearing repop, unless anyone has a real dated/coded radiator)
(2) Will change hose clamps to correct "tower" style clamps
(3) Will get correct anodized master cylinder reservoir cover
(4) Will install A-arm dust shields and staples

Is there anything else obvious to the '67 L78 experts? Again, please pick it apart.

Thank you,

Paul

RPOLS3 10-29-2020 09:05 PM

Nice car Paul!

I'm no expert but guessing that heater hose bracket on the front of the block isn't right.

Assuming it should be on the inner fenderwell?

Mr70 10-29-2020 09:20 PM

No engine pull hook?

olredalert 10-29-2020 09:33 PM

----Paul,,,Was this Camaro delivered without disc brakes? Just asking......Bill S

SeattleCarGuy 10-29-2020 09:43 PM

Yes, non-power drum brake car.

I thought disc brakes would be standard on SS or mandatory on BB, but I see the L78 convertible in the Brothers Collection is the same as this and found a few others online with non-power drums.

olredalert 10-29-2020 09:54 PM

----I was just wondering as it would be sort of a drag race oriented thing with the drums which makes sense. I'm not sure exactly what a non power drum brake master looks like. Hope it's the right one......Bill S

Burd 10-29-2020 11:04 PM

Rad clamps, a nice factory set would look good

1967 4K 10-30-2020 12:07 AM

67 4k
 
I’m certainly not an expert but, the alternator fan should be black. I see the temp sending unit wire is in a clip on the valve cover. Need a different pic angle shot of the left valve cover spark plug loom holder position. Seeing the front clip makes me think yours is correct but Chevelle is similar. Left 67 big block Camaro cover is hard puppy to find.
The pump to carb line is repop but so is mine and most you see. Is the radiator fan shroud GM or repop? Hope it’s GM cause real ones are hard to find and very expensive.
I like your car man, it’s five weeks younger than mine.
Later

scuncio 10-30-2020 12:08 AM

Nice car. Does it still retain the crazy expensive L78/Z28 clutch fan?

tunes 10-30-2020 12:12 AM

Water pump pulley does not appear to be a deep groove pulley and has wrong style belt. Tonawanda sticker on wrong valve cover. Incorrect PCV hose. Not sure about '67 models, but shouldn't the vacuum advance line be steel/rubber with a clip on the intake? I would like to see more pictures of your Camaro.

1967 4K 10-30-2020 02:11 AM

67 4k
 
Yes on the water pump pulley, yes on the Vac advance hose should be rubber to steel line setting in a clip back to rubber into distr..
Is the carb a List 3910? Is the distributor a 1170?

69L78 10-30-2020 02:14 AM

The right side valve cover is not correct, it is correct for 1969.

RobR 10-30-2020 02:30 AM

Nice car!

The dipstick tube should be shorter and the dipstick will have a salmon color tip

SeattleCarGuy 10-30-2020 04:23 PM

Thanks for all the comments so far.
I have ordered the correct vacuum advance line hard tube and retainer and the correct PCV hose retainer, correct clamps for radiator and heater hoses, correct heater hose retainer and will be trying to address some of your other comments.

Carb is correct, but not correct date. Valve covers will be hard to find correct. Will look at distributor number soon. Will check out fan clutch. Need to find deep groove fan pulley.

Thanks and if you see more, please let me know.

SuperNovaSS 10-31-2020 03:25 AM

Nice looking car. Any idea what is going on with the plug on the front side of the passenger head. It should protrude out, not stick in.

Jason

jbtech 10-31-2020 05:55 AM

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Playing spot the differences is always fun. Here are some screenshots from the assembly manual that may help.

Also I think original valve cover gaskets are silver painted cork?

Jose

tunes 10-31-2020 02:38 PM

Those exhaust manifolds don't look right for a '67 either. :no:

1967Z28 11-01-2020 03:23 AM

The PTB ink stamps are not visible on '67s and are hidden by the front fenders.

1967 4K 11-01-2020 11:24 AM

Ptb
 
Learning new things about the 4K cars. When I had the fenders off my car for painting I noticed one orange P behind the fender on the right side. That area of the cowl is still original paint on my car. Good information Jon, thanks.

Richard

m22mike 11-01-2020 12:08 PM

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P T B stamps on Gradys Red 67 for re;

Zedder 11-01-2020 01:38 PM

Seatlecarguy...pm me your email address and I will send you pics of the 10,000 mile unrestored L78.

1967Z28 11-01-2020 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 1967 4K (Post 1520578)
Learning new things about the 4K cars. When I had the fenders off my car for painting I noticed one orange P behind the fender on the right side. That area of the cowl is still original paint on my car. Good information Jon, thanks.

Richard

You're welcome, Richard.

Steve Shauger 11-01-2020 04:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1967Z28 (Post 1520555)
The PTB ink stamps are not visible on '67s and are hidden by the front fenders.

I will agree that PTB stamps are usually found behind the fenders/ tulip area. My 67 had them there and on both sides of firewall as well. This is a late 7B car, but want to provide a data point that they were there as well.

The only exterior paint work done was this small quarter size near the battery. Perhaps battery froze or someone jumped the car using the wrong polarity :(

The pics are not great because its on VHS tape. Yes I need to convert :)

68camaroz28 11-03-2020 01:03 AM

Considering what I know on later years I’d believe the Heater core assembly speed nuts and ex manifold bolts phosphate instead of clear zinc, appears alternator wire rubber boot is what comes with aftermarket wiring harnesses, zinc washer under one painted water pump bolt, and valve covers as mentioned are incorrect but also aftermarket reproduction. Overall nIce find and congratulations. Much of aforementioned in posts easy to change so have fun.

SeattleCarGuy 11-04-2020 04:02 PM

Thanks everyone for the comments. Considering I bought this car already "done" and it is a CE engine, I am not going to go all out on it. But, I did order new valve covers from Crane yesterday, and a ton of other things to make it correct as possible for a nice driver.

One thing, the trunk lid does not have the "Chevrolet" and "camaro" emblems.

Does anyone have exact measurements on where to drill the holes to place these emblems?

Thanks again, Paul

x77-69z28 11-04-2020 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 1967Z28 (Post 1520555)
The PTB ink stamps are not visible on '67s and are hidden by the front fenders.

Beat me to it!
Buddy

1971ls6 11-07-2020 09:04 PM

Air filter is a later one, the one you have is a square mesh, yours should be angled. I had the square one on my 71 vette

169indy 11-08-2020 03:20 PM

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Brain S has a 4K Vert in Renton you might be able to see at a show someday local (seattle area)

169indy 09-13-2023 06:09 AM

Paul at the Edmonds Car show w/ 4K
 
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What a great time talking with Paul and a pair of Solid Lifter Hot rods

JIM

1971ls6 09-13-2023 06:14 PM

Distributor wires are not oriented the way they came from the factory, assembly manual shows it

luzl78 09-14-2023 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 169indy (Post 1521393)
Brain S has a 4K Vert in Renton you might be able to see at a show someday local (seattle area)

Does the vert in Seattle have a deluxe parchment interior and is it bolero red?

169indy 09-14-2023 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by luzl78 (Post 1631900)
Does the vert in Seattle have a deluxe parchment interior and is it bolero red?

Correct.


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