Buying a car out of state or country.
 

Anyone here have a sure fire way of buying a car out of state without getting stung if you can't see the car in person?

Thanks

Hire an appraiser to go look at the car. One who is well versed with the model. He will give you a detailed report as to the condition and provenance of the car. If you are satisfied with the report, hire a local attorney, one who has knowledge of State issued automobile titles. Wire him the purchase price which he holds in escrow for you. Send him the photos and report the appraiser gave you. Then arrange to have the seller go to the attorney's office driving/deliver the car you are buying. Seller signs a Bill Of Sale and the Title which the attorney examines to make sure it is a valid document. It is always best if the Title is in the Seller's name BTW. Once this is done, the attorney gives him his money. You pre-arrange with a trucking company to pickup the car the same day at the attorney's office. Seller takes a cab home or brings someone with him so he has a ride home.

Or for more money, have the attorney go to location of the car and do the deal there and wait for the trucking company to arrive.

Attorney Fed-Ex's your documents for next day delivery.

If the buyer balks at any of your requirements . . . walk away and find another car.

An honest man will have nothing to hide and will understand your concerns and work with you. A crook will do the opposite.

I've had members of other forums inspect project cars for me in the past and they have been very honest in their appraisal and take/send many pics, if they find the car is accurately described. NONE of the cars were near as good and I've never bought one of them.
If it's a late model, hiring the appraiser may be safer avenue.

I agree with what everyone else has said so far .
I will add though, if you are in the least bit picky as to what you will or won't be satisfied
with ,then no one can ever give you accurate view of the car until you own eyes do so for
you .
I have only bought 1 car sight unseen ( my current car ) and would never do it again .
Thanks and good luck ;)

I have actually bought and sold several cars unseen. A few things were mentioned about the integrity of seller in terms of willingness to support ideas to verify accuracy of said vehicle, high resolution pictures of every panel top to bottom, video or FaceTime walk around paperwork and quantity of paperwork, Carfax if available, vin search etc..
I find the biggest factor is in the way the seller communicates. I recently avoided a purchase because from the get go the person was a fast talker and didn’t stop talking and avoided my questions. I just wasn’t comfortable felt like the vehicle was being oversold.
Now, if it’s a vehicle in high demand, and seller knows,it can be a different approach.

Hope that helps let us know how it turns out.

Done it lot's of times.
A couple of keys to not getting stung-

Do your own due diligence. You can hardly complain about a seller or the quality of your purchase if you do not do this.

Have someone who actually knows what they are looking at, inspect the vehicle. A car is not neccesarily a car.
Most times, this will exclude the thousands of online inspection companies. You dont need someone who ordinarily inspects Honda's giving a Buick GS a once over.

Good luck.

Buying a car...
 

Here is the ad.
 

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars...7569?undefined.

One thing I have noticed is the ads are getting more technical with legitimate info that does pertain to that car. In the past you could recognize the scam just by info that could pertain to almost any car or was just totally wrong.

I've only bought a car on the Internet once.Over a 3 week period talked to the owner many times.I requested copies of paperwork which he gladly provided.Also had him take specific pictures at my request.Finally I had him send me a copy of the car's appraisal that was done for insurance purposes.Then I called the appraiser.Figured he would have an unbiased view on the car.Thankfully it turned out to be a nice car.

I know you said you were busy, but for that kind of price tag, I would request 3-4 days vacation time and inspect it yourself...;)

Work will always be there when you get back and you'll KNOW if you want this car, or not.

I used to always fly in and inspect them myself, but after wild goose chases to Texas and Idaho, I try and find a forum friend close by and pay them a couple of hundred dollars to go and take a look for me. Most of the time, they see things that I missed because they aren’t emotionally invested in the purchase.

Just have the seller send you some high quality photos of the VIN under the windshield, on the transmission, on the engine block and a photo of the stamping on the rear.

Car could be a hodge-podge of drivetrain components: Corvette Motor, Chevelle Transmission, 3.55 rear with 4.10 gears.

Anyone here have a sure fire way of buying a car out of state without getting stung i
 

In the past I bought cars off of the internet trusting the seller then I was stung badly by a person that misunderstood the words rust free did not mean free rust. It was a mess of a Nova when I got it and was nothing like he said it would be or anything like the pictures. Do yourself a favor and always go inspect the car to make sure it is to your liking before you spend the money. If you end up with the car that you do not want then you have to sell it to the next guy and that can create a bunch of issues that are no fun.

Ziggy,

Happy to help if the target is in the DFW (North Texas) area :biggthumpup:

Ziggy, the big red flags to me is his willingness to sell rolling with no motors/trans? Even the survivor '70 RS Z28 willing to take the motor out? Just seems to willing/eager to change around cars that have me skeptical? Like the original DZ BORN WITH 302 have been located and can be bought separately?

Do diligence is needed for sure.

Hi, Could you send me any more pics of the 70 Z28 and any other info?
Thanks Ken


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I have posted pics/info on the Facebook page, "Street Car Social Club"...Just enter those 4 words into the FACEBOOK SEARCH BAR and that should get you there. If you land on the home page look at the "posts".
I can be reached at 306-241-5476. Thanks.


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Hi. On the 1970 Z28.
If everything looks good can you put it in my driveway in Toronto for $44000 ?
Are you a dealer?Do you own all these cars or on confinement?How long have you had this one?Does it need anything?Do you have the stock wheels,exhaust manifolds or any other original parts?
Sorry for all the questions. I am in Toronto and it is a bit of a drive to see the car. ;)
Thanks Ken

On Saturday, December 12, 2020, 09:31:10 a.m. EST, Lenses <bw432jlc8vvrc-8c2a4b366aa2f91dc960ab418caa2fb890ccd30-ca-mvca@rts.kijiji.ca> wrote:



The following is a reply to you from the seller of the Ad "1969 Camaro, 1970 Camaro, 1955 Chevy, 1935 Chevy" on Kijiji and Kijiji Autos: |


I have posted pics/info on the Facebook page, "Street Car Social Club"...Just enter those 4 words into the FACEBOOK SEARCH BAR and that should get you there. If you land on the home page look at the "posts".I can be reached at 306-241-5476. Thanks.


We should probably have a phone conversation. These are my personal cars. I recently sold two of my cars to guys in Ontario...one went enclosed transport and one on a car carrier...I'm sure we can figure that out. I bought the'70 RS Z28 in 1997. I sold it in 2009...I bought it back in 2018 as per an agreement made with the friend that I sold it to in 2009. When I bought it back in 2018 it came with a September 2018 appraisal of $50,000 CAD from the most qualified appraiser in Calgary...it has gone up in value since then...and is destined to be a "big dollar" car in the near future as original paint M-22 '70 RS Z28s are extre,ely rare...but you know that (hopefully)...REASON FOR SELLING: I recently sold my large storage facility and started selling off my cars...had 25 and have sold 16 over the past year. I mothballed my acreage/business in Alberta and moved to Saskatoon to hang out with my mother who is 90 and needed a bit of help and support...I'm at 306-241-5476.

Thanks to all who posted. Here are the PMs.

The following is a reply to you from the seller of the Ad "1969 Camaro, 1970 Camaro, 1955 Chevy, 1935 Chevy" on Kijiji and Kijiji Autos: |

We should probably have a phone conversation. These are my personal cars. I recently sold two of my cars to guys in Ontario...one went enclosed transport and one on a car carrier...I'm sure we can figure that out. I bought the'70 RS Z28 in 1997. I sold it in 2009...I bought it back in 2018 as per an agreement made with the friend that I sold it to in 2009. When I bought it back in 2018 it came with a September 2018 appraisal of $50,000 CAD from the most qualified appraiser in Calgary...it has gone up in value since then...and is destined to be a "big dollar" car in the near future as original paint M-22 '70 RS Z28s are extre,ely rare...but you know that (hopefully)...REASON FOR SELLING: I recently sold my large storage facility and started selling off my cars...had 25 and have sold 16 over the past year. I mothballed my acreage/business in Alberta and moved to Saskatoon to hang out with my mother who is 90 and needed a bit of help and support...I'm at 306-241-5476.


If you search "Gib Jones Calgary" on Facebook you should be able to find me...Then you can message me and we can "try" to have a call...don't know if it will work as I noticed that I have be having issues...I do not spend much time online and I don't type...that is why I suggested a phone conversation.
Thanks,
Gib
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Hi Gib.
If I fly in to look at the car with a friend.can you pick us up at the airport on Wed ? Thanks Ken

On Saturday, December 12, 2020, 05:16:37 p.m. EST, Lenses <bw432jlc8vvrc-8c2a4b366aa2f91dc960ab418caa2fb890ccd30-ca-mvca@rts.kijiji.ca> wrote:


The following is a reply to you from the seller of the Ad "1969 Camaro, 1970 Camaro, 1955 Chevy, 1935 Chevy" on Kijiji and Kijiji Autos:

If you search "Gib Jones Calgary" on Facebook you should be able to find me...Then you can message me and we can "try" to have a call...don't know if it will work as I noticed that I have be having issues...I do not spend much time online and I don't type...that is why I suggested a phone conversation.Thanks,Gib

On Saturday, December 12, 2020, 02:00:00 p.m. EST, Lenses <bw432jlc8vvrc-8c2a4b366aa2f91dc960ab418caa2fb890ccd30-ca-mvca@rts.kijiji.ca> wrote:

We should probably have a phone conversation. These are my personal cars. I recently sold two of my cars to guys in Ontario...one went enclosed transport and one on a car carrier...I'm sure we can figure that out. I bought the'70 RS Z28 in 1997. I sold it in 2009...I bought it back in 2018 as per an agreement made with the friend that I sold it to in 2009. When I bought it back in 2018 it came with a September 2018 appraisal of $50,000 CAD from the most qualified appraiser in Calgary...it has gone up in value since then...and is destined to be a "big dollar" car in the near future as original paint M-22 '70 RS Z28s are extre,ely rare...but you know that (hopefully)...REASON FOR SELLING: I recently sold my large storage facility and started selling off my cars...had 25 and have sold 16 over the past year. I mothballed my acreage/business in Alberta and moved to Saskatoon to hang out with my mother who is 90 and needed a bit of help and support...I'm at 306-241-5476.

It isn't a scam...Just haven't been online as I have been working outdoors...and freezing my ass off.
Sure, I can pick you up...as long as everyone is wearing masks. I'm basically living in quarantine with my 90 year-old mother and take few risks these days.
BUT...before we do any of that...we need to have an ACTUAL CONVERSATION as I have been dealing with countless people...some real...some scammers...and need to know who I'm dealing with.
Feel free to contact me any time...306-241-5476

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By the way...if you think the prices I have listed are "ridiculous"...We don't need to continue...I have SOLD 16 out of my 25 cars...every buyer satisfied because I'm selling them cars that are GOING UP IN VALUE. These cars are for people who have money and know what these cars are worth...and they are not afraid to INVEST their money in something that is SAFE.
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So the price is what the car MAY be worth in 5-6 years...:dunno:


You got a cool '68 to play with, no need to continue with him...:burnout:

Ken, really. This guy must have "FUZZY" hair, big read nose with shoes to match. Last employed by Barnum and Baily?????

Seems like your looking at the '70 RS/Z28. Nice car these are. Ok he claims it's a big dollar car (as you should know???? LOL) that is only going up in value. Yet for a guy selling suck cars, he's not even taking 10% of "appraised" value? I know personally of many many cars that sell for what 2/3's to 75% of appraised value.

And, being such a rare, high dollar SURVIVOR car, we would consider selling without the engine??????? So sounds like NOT numbers matching or born-with car to start with.

Your a more patient and understanding guy then I am. Good luck