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Luvchevs 01-05-2021 06:54 PM

1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro at Mecum
 
https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0121-45...ion-stage-iii/

Looks like several Supercars at the Auction in Kissimmee!

Beautiful car and I really dislike Green cars so that says a lot!

What kind of $ do you guys think this car will bring?

Way out of my league just curious on your thoughts?

Lee Stewart 01-05-2021 06:58 PM

I'd say between $200K and $250K

Vern B 01-05-2021 08:06 PM

Is this the same car that was at the Supercar Reunion in Springfield in the first 2-3 years, or is there a second green car? I’m assuming it’s the same car?

EZ Nova 01-05-2021 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart (Post 1530428)
I'd say between $200K and $250K

Lee, you could be right. But the 73 that went though in 2019 sold for dramatically less @ $90,200 with buyers prem in there. And this is a known car and supposed to be the last phase III Camaro built.

https://www.mecum.com/lots/PA0819-37...ion-phase-iii/

BUT there was another one that didn't sell @ $250,000 back in 2012.

https://www.mecum.com/lots/DA0912-13...se-iii-camaro/

I didn't think the Motion cars brought much over the $100,000 mark from my talks with a few different guys.

EZ Nova 01-05-2021 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Vern B (Post 1530442)
Is this the same car that was at the Supercar Reunion in Springfield in the first 2-3 years, or is there a second green car? I’m assuming it’s the same car?

There seems to be 2 green phase III cars, one with white strip and one with black. Now is there multi cars of each variant????

L16pilot 01-05-2021 09:14 PM

Interesting car. It appears the axle tubes have been welded...is that something Motion would have done as part of the "package"?

prototype 01-05-2021 10:59 PM

EZ....not sure if was ever determined to be the last Camaro that Motion built but they went bankrupt shortly after this car was built.

https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?p=663103

https://www.yenko.net/features/2001/September2001.htm

It was the perfect height so we used it as a barbers chair for the kids :)


Quote:

Originally Posted by EZ Nova (Post 1530445)
Lee, you could be right. But the 73 that went though in 2019 sold for dramatically less @ $90,200 with buyers prem in there. And this is a known car and supposed to be the last phase III Camaro built.

https://www.mecum.com/lots/PA0819-37...ion-phase-iii/

BUT there was another one that didn't sell @ $250,000 back in 2012.

https://www.mecum.com/lots/DA0912-13...se-iii-camaro/

I didn't think the Motion cars brought much over the $100,000 mark from my talks with a few different guys.


Vern B 01-06-2021 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EZ Nova (Post 1530447)
There seems to be 2 green phase III cars, one with white strip and one with black. Now is there multi cars of each variant????

The one that was at the Springfield reunion was Green with white stripes and I’m guessing it was this one.

JoeC 01-06-2021 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by prototype (Post 1530458)
EZ....not sure if was ever determined to be the last Camaro that Motion built but they went bankrupt shortly after this car was built.

:)

The gold 73 was built by a mechanic who worked at Motion and is not the last Baldwin Motion Camaro

Motion didn't go bankrupt

JoeC 01-06-2021 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by EZ Nova (Post 1530445)

I didn't think the Motion cars brought much over the $100,000 mark from my talks with a few different guys.

One Motion Camaro sold for about 5 times that

McCune 01-06-2021 01:58 PM

Not crazy about the double chin nose fitment.

EZ Nova 01-06-2021 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeC (Post 1530513)
One Motion Camaro sold for about 5 times that

Thanks Joe, didn't know or see that? Was that auction or private?

I have spoken with some guys that have/had Motion cars after seeing a couple go for right around the 100K mark, Charlie being one of them. I listened and took what they have told me. Those conversations are for me though, not for others unless they say it.

I was shocked that lately the BM Camaro's don't seem to be bringing the $$$ I once saw. I have only seen the auction results of what 5 of these '70-'73 BM Camaros, and seem like the #'s from 5 years ago we going down. That's all.

Guess we will see where this one goes too. I would venture to say 150-170 range? Being a '70, RS option, and Tiemann restored sidepipe car, should bring some $$$.

Maybe I'm wrong and could very well be. If it goes higher, then GREAT for the those involved. I know the phase III Vette seem to do a better $$$ wise. Just surprised me that these BM cars were lagging behind what Yenko's go for.

Didn't mean to piss anyone off.............

Luvchevs 01-06-2021 02:19 PM

$500,000 BM Camaro, he might be referring to this one?

https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0116-22...ion-phase-iii/

I don't get play in this sandbox as I don't have the $ just have a passion for musclecars and have always thought the BM were very cool! I would have to wonder what kind of $ the Rally Green and white 1969 RS/SS would bring if it ever came up for sale?

MN 70L78 01-12-2021 11:50 PM

I remember seeing this car in Chicago several years back when it was either Chevy Vette Fest or MCACN or both... If I recall correctly this car started out as an L78. It's a Norwood car and cowl tags are stamped on the big block SS cars.

JoeC 01-13-2021 09:54 AM

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here is a pic from a show

Luvchevs 01-16-2021 10:06 PM

SOLD for $180,000 plus buyers fee!

JoeC 01-17-2021 07:09 AM

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looked nice on the block

BCreekDave 01-17-2021 03:09 PM

Record sale for a second gen?

mhassett 01-17-2021 10:43 PM

My RED & WHITE 71 MOTION WAS MORE.

seventieshow 01-17-2021 10:56 PM

My apologies for the hijack, but does anyone how many of these cars there are? By these, I mean Motion built Camaros. A registry or something like that? Even a rough number?

That car is one of my favorites, I am grateful to MCACN for giving me the opportunity to see it in 2013.

Luvchevs 01-19-2021 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mhassett (Post 1532372)
My RED & WHITE 71 MOTION WAS MORE.

Red would be a lot more appealing to me than the green/green combo for sure!
Besides the colours this car checks all the boxes for me. RS, side pipes, cragars and stance, car looks awesome in the pics.

I will only ever be able to admire these cars from a distance due to the $.

Still remember seeing this recreation during my only visit so far to BJ. Sold for around $30,000. Should have bought it!

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...REATION-117369

COPO 01-19-2021 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by EZ Nova (Post 1530532)

Just surprised me that these BM cars were lagging behind what Yenko's go for.

I think you are comparing auction results for 70-73 Baldwin Motion and Motion Camaros versus 1st Gen. Yenko Camaro auction results. That's apples and oranges.

A real 1st gen. Baldwin Motion Camaro would sell for considerably above the same year Yenko Camaro if in similar condition. There's probably about 10 documented 1st gen. BM Camaros in total and each one is unique versus about 300 1st gen. Yenko Camaros.

EZ Nova 01-20-2021 11:59 AM

Yes I was. I know there were hardly ANY 1 gen BM cars, and NO really YSC cars. To me, the BM cars are a bit more appealing just due to the fact they have modification to get them to perform better.

Looking at the 69-70 Nova supercar thread, make me wonder how some of those modified L88 Nova's or the 454/500+hp car ran. Headers, slicks gears, intake and cam changes MUST be a 1/2 second minimum quicker.

Back in the early '70's to be running a legit low 11 or high 10 second car would have been king.

whitetop 01-20-2021 01:14 PM

The green/white stripe is Mark Timkens old car. I know he had way more than that in it. Mark is a perfectionist.

This is the car on the cover of AMT BM model kit.


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