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ProtectoPlate Question
I have always been under the impression that the metal portion of the ProtectoPlates was stamped at the factory, and then the dealerships would add the Dymo-tape showing the name & address of the original purchaser along with the date the vehicle was delivered to the original purchaser. Someone else recently told me they thought that even the metal portion was stamped at the dealership. Does anyone know for sure which it was?
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I believe it was all done at the dealer
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How did the dealer know all the date stamps of the engine, trans, and rear? Did GM supply them with that info? Was it in a computer back then?
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From http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#POPCodes
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When I owned the orig. 67 Pace car I found just a bare Protecto Plate in the glovebox. It had been stamped but not in a warranty booklet.
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On my 1970 Camaro (which I bought new) I have a metal plate stamped by the factory, and the dymo type plastic tape stamped by the dealer, & stuck to the metal plate. However, I have a1965 GTO with a smaller metal plate stamped by the factory, and another separate
metal plate stamped by the dealer. The GTO was one family owned before I got it. |
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Beginning in Aug or Sept of 1969 the factory affixed Federal compliance decals were imprinted with the VIN using the POP through a type of transfer like the old credit card rolling imprinter - The date in the upper right is a slightly larger size and wouldn't change except by the month.
Some of the compliance stickers have at least part of the Suffix codes from the engines and transmissions visible. (as Illustrated below) (in the photo below you can also see part of the ink ribbon transfer in the center under General Motors) The clear overlay was applied when the blue decal was affixed in the door jamb. |
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Attachment 183504 Here is the Dymo-Tape
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what about when you got a replacement it has the name of owner stamped into the new plate with vin and some info but no drive train info stamped into the plate
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Dealer issued plate. |
The second owner replacement POP where made up at the local zone office and sent to the dealer and then given to the second owner ( i worked at Luby Chevrolet 1967 - 1972)
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what about if it the original was lost or misplaced during the originals owners warranty period would they also get a replacement dealer issued plate
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The original owner of my 70 Z/28 had the short block replaced under warranty and was given a new P-O-P with his name typed in the metal plate. No tape.
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Must make a correction of my previous post. On my Camaro, yes, the dealer added buyer info with the tape onto the factory metal plate. But I looked at the fine print on my GTO, and the metal tag with buyer info was mailed to the owner from the factory at a later date.
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My 68 GTO has a plastic card which has the car info along with the buyer info all imprinted into the card.
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So were the warranty booklets supposed to be imprinted with POP data from the factory. Because I've seen some booklets imprinted with POP data and some not? Or was this a hit or miss thing depending on which factory and who was doing them?
Interesting info in post #8... first time I've heard about the door jamb compliance decal being imprinted from the POP. |
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The engine line inspector wrote the engine, transmission, and carburetor codes on the Broadcast Copy and put the sheet in a box for pickup by a Scheduling clerk (needed to create the P-O-P at the end of the Final Line). From: http://www.camaros.org/assemblyprocess.shtml#chev |
The 65-67 warranty books were imprinted at the plants. There was a perforated page opposite the plate that the dealer was supposed to remove and stick in the car's file. Some dealer's left it in.
At the start of the 67 model year, there was a shortage of the warranty books so most protectoplates were shipped on a temporary card. Wouldn't surprise me if some plates were shipped loose in the glovebox as Charlie mentioned. See the below link for a sample of that card. https://impalas.org/wp-content/uploa...-pops-temp.jpg Some 68 plants imprinted the plate on the opposite page. Norwood did as well as some others. If the book has no vin punched in it, then the plate was put in that book by the dealer or owner. A few 69 plants imprinted the plate in the battery box. I know St Louis did it for the fullsize cars and I believe Baltimore Chevelles too. Not sure if that was done for the whole model year. And the warranty plates with mostly just owner info were mailed from Detroit. I don't believe dealer stamped the plates themselves except for a few who actually pulled the plate off and stamped the owner info into it! I know of one or two that did it that way. That would be some extra work! |
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