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J jones 05-18-2021 08:08 AM

1968 l89
 
Anyone have a guess how many documented cars are still around? It's hard to believe they made 272 of them and almost none are left. There was a post somewhere that number came from Tonawanda as the number of motors built. Any thoughts?

cook_dw 05-18-2021 11:46 AM

68 L89’s are probably the rarest 1st gen camaro (aside from the ZL1 followed after 68’s the 69 L89 cars) my personal opinion. I only have a handful of known cars in my data and several red flag cars. Without the block or paper you can not 100% confirm originality. CRG has it listed that 272 cars were assembled and nothing stating it includes warranty engines. Which I assumed doesn’t. Maybe Kurt, William or Bryon can comment.

J jones 05-18-2021 01:30 PM

Thanks, Thats about what I've come to realize. Over the last 15 years or so, going to all the big shows I have yet to see another one. Or even auctions. Several cars with aluminum heads, but not real cars. Didnt realize all those years ago mine was that rare. Trying to determine value for insurance, and possible sale.

firstgenaddict 05-18-2021 09:45 PM

There are very few, however IIRC two of the ones out there are convertibles. A Maroon white interior car with M22 and high way gears and the Gold conv that resided in AL for a number of years. The maroon car was bought new in the triad area of NC and the original owner is a local politician in that area.

J jones 05-18-2021 09:48 PM

Is the maroon one originally bought for a high school grad?

carnut4life 05-18-2021 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cook_dw (Post 1548706)
68 L89’s are probably the rarest 1st gen camaro (aside from the ZL1 followed after 68’s the 69 L89 cars) my personal opinion. I only have a handful of known cars in my data and several red flag cars. Without the block or paper you can not 100% confirm originality. CRG has it listed that 272 cars were assembled and nothing stating it includes warranty engines. Which I assumed doesn’t. Maybe Kurt, William or Bryon can comment.

Do you have any record of a dark green 68 L89 Camaro in SE Iowa Darrell? I know a guy that supposedly has one with the original engine and he was going to have Jerry inspect when I had my COPO Camaro inspected in 2017. He saw one of Jerry's reports and was worried about him picking his car apart and changed his mind which shocked me because if I had an L89 with the original motor I'd be dying to know if it was legit or not.

firstgenaddict 05-18-2021 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by J jones (Post 1548778)
Is the maroon one originally bought for a high school grad?

Could have been, I believe the original owner was fairly young. Car was from Raleigh or Apex if not mistaken.

There is another 68 L89 (coupe) I remember a Lemans Blue RS/SS. Also from the southeast.

J jones 05-19-2021 12:22 AM

Yep, I have the article in super chevy on the maroon one. 06.. 07. The grads mom told him to order any car he wanted. Had a lot of options. The Lemans Blue one I know well... it's in my garage!

firstgenaddict 05-19-2021 12:38 AM

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If your car was a MAJOR PROJECT then it could be the same car I called about maybe 5 years ago.
Here is a photo I kept, as I stated it was a major project at the time -

J jones 05-19-2021 01:28 AM

Yikes, no. I've owned about 15 years now. Finished resto in 2014.

J jones 05-19-2021 01:36 AM

Did that car have matching number engine?

cook_dw 05-19-2021 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by carnut4life (Post 1548779)
Do you have any record of a dark green 68 L89 Camaro in SE Iowa Darrell? I know a guy that supposedly has one with the original engine and he was going to have Jerry inspect when I had my COPO Camaro inspected in 2017. He saw one of Jerry's reports and was worried about him picking his car apart and changed his mind which shocked me because if I had an L89 with the original motor I'd be dying to know if it was legit or not.


If it’s Seqouia Green then yes I have it listed. But no driveline photos that I recall. Waited on current owner to feel comfortable sending photos. I list the info but just make quick notes.

carnut4life 05-19-2021 02:51 AM

Its Sequoia Green or British Racing Green. If I see it around this summer I'll try to get a picture of trim tag and engine block stamp.

cook_dw 05-19-2021 03:45 AM

As long as the owner gives the approval I’d appreciate it.

PeteLeathersac 05-19-2021 03:58 AM

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The Maroon 'Vert matching #'s restamp w/ questionable L89 pedigree is in this past thread w/ 05/13 Mecum link still alive...
https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?t=122551

A Factory Built '68 L89 w/ indisputable history and THE ORIGINAL Engine (not just #'s smoke & hokey paperwork) is something special and looking forward to hearing more about your LB car also any other examples you come up with.

If you want to try backtracking L89's or matching up any known cars, there's a few original ads for '68 L89's in the Old Newspaper ads thread including below 12/68 Chicago ad w/ L89 'Vert, click here and cruise through a few pages...
https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthre...135780&page=21

:beers:
~ Pete

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J jones 05-19-2021 06:20 PM

I remember reading about that convertible having questionable papers. But never heard from the car again.

GMC_Typhoon 05-19-2021 11:41 PM

I don't understand why Chevy thought that the POP would remain with the cars. I see people all day selling the owner's manuals that comes with cars and it pisses me off. Those belong to the car not to you.

J jones 05-20-2021 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by firstgenaddict (Post 1548795)
If your car was a MAJOR PROJECT then it could be the same car I called about maybe 5 years ago.
Here is a photo I kept, as I stated it was a major project at the time -

did this car have a matching motor?

mssl72 05-20-2021 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GMC_Typhoon (Post 1548908)
I don't understand why Chevy thought that the POP would remain with the cars. I see people all day selling the owner's manuals that comes with cars and it pisses me off. Those belong to the car not to you.

Are you saying people are selling the POP/manual from a cars that are in fact still around? That would piss me off too. I do see manuals that have POPs for sale, but the cars are long gone. Some guys clean out glove boxes from cars being scrapped at a junk yards and sell them. Better to save it and pass it on than have it burned up or run through a shredder.

firstgenaddict 05-21-2021 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by J jones (Post 1548934)
did this car have a matching motor?

No engine or trans said he had the pinpunched Owners manual with POP the car was sold prior to me getting a chance to go look at it.

J jones 05-21-2021 03:01 PM

Wow. Did you happen to know the serial number of the car. I have a complete motor that got pulled from a 68.

PeteLeathersac 05-21-2021 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by J jones (Post 1549046)
Wow. Did you happen to know the serial number of the car. I have a complete motor that got pulled from a 68.

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Cool!
Have you tried for NCRS Dealer Shipped to info w/ Coupe & 'Vert VIN prefixes added to engine stamping?:hmmm:
:beers:
~ Pete

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J jones 05-21-2021 04:33 PM

I thought you had to own the car in searching ncrs?

luzl78 05-21-2021 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by J jones (Post 1549059)
I thought you had to own the car in searching ncrs?

No

302moz 12-26-2021 07:47 PM

1968 L89 Camaro
 
I found and purchased a numbers matching L89 68 camaro with a m22 . Not restored just a old repaint . Known about it for 25 years but it disappeared from my area . The engine surfaced and I found the car from the vin on block . Also tracked down the original owner who ordered the car . Very excited to find such a rare car that is numbers matching.

plumL78 12-26-2021 08:27 PM

one was just found in the UP of Mich.

302moz 12-26-2021 08:41 PM

1968 l89
 
That’s me !

Crush 12-26-2021 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by plumL78 (Post 1576259)
one was just found in the UP of Mich.

Your kidding me, where? Details? Pics?

PeteLeathersac 12-26-2021 09:34 PM

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Big Congrats and looking forward to more, Coupe or 'Vert?:hmmm:
Nicely done if backtracked by Vin stamping, sounds like you actually have an Original Engine L89 car which if true, is much more valuable than most Numbers Matching cars are.
:beers:
~ Pete

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napa68 12-26-2021 09:54 PM

It's a great find John!

J jones 12-26-2021 11:11 PM

Awesome find, John. This is Jimmy, talked with you recently. We'll we know there is at least 2 known out of the 272 made!

Lynn 12-27-2021 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by GMC_Typhoon (Post 1548908)
I don't understand why Chevy thought that the POP would remain with the cars. I see people all day selling the owner's manuals that comes with cars and it pisses me off. Those belong to the car not to you.

I bought a 69 Z/28 (sans engine/trans/front seats) in the summer of 1971 from the a salvage pool. Theft recovery car.

Had the P.O.P. in the glove box. I immediately recognized the name. Guy named Cyrus Wheeler bought it new (or his dad did). Cy was about my age, but we went to different schools. I knew the car well (didn't know it was THAT car when I bought it). It was a terror on the street with cross ram.

I had no use for the POP in 71, so I pitched it. I am certain this is an all too familiar story.

Bill Pritchard 12-27-2021 12:28 AM

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Back in the late 70's/early 80's there was a guy named Ralph Greinke from Chicago who had one. Had it at the Car Craft Street Machine Nats in Indianapolis, which is where I saw it and got to know him. It interested me because I know of another one, which I eventually bought in early 1980. Friends of mine owned the car since 1972. I sold it to another friend later in 1980, and he still owns it today. NOM, short block replaced under warranty during the OO's tenure. My friend did a title search (back in the good old days when you could do such things) and spoke with the OO, who confirmed that it was a true L89 car that he bought new.

A couple pics when I owned it in early 1980...

Lynn 12-27-2021 12:29 AM

There was a Sequoia Green 68 for sale on ebay about 12 years ago. I believe it was in Tulsa. They owner had died and his son was selling it. IIRC, the engine stamp was correct, but someone had removed the aluminum heads. I talked with the seller, but did not go see the car. He had no paperwork, and could not say for certain that it was the original motor to the car.

J jones 12-27-2021 01:12 AM

Is that British green?

Charley Lillard 12-27-2021 01:40 AM

A idiot friend spent about a year getting a Berger COPO bought off the orig. owner. Problem was it had a set of aluminum heads on it that the owner would not let go with the car as they belonged to his brother. He offered to buy his brother another set. He said no they belong on his car. Turns out his brother bought a 68 L89 new. He ended up buying both cars.

Bill Pritchard 12-27-2021 02:17 AM

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Here's the only picture I have of Ralph Greinke's 68 L89 Camaro, taken at the Car Craft Street Machine Nationals in either 1979 or 1980. Sorry for the poor picture quality.

J jones 12-27-2021 02:57 AM

Bill Jenkins had one. Michael Allen original soul survivor and the Super Street Cars test car were a few more back in the day. Apparently most L89s were tore up on the track and Street back then. And to make things worse is the problem with documenting the 68s without any paperwork. And that's ashame that there are probably quite a few out there that people don't know what they have.

Big Block 69 12-27-2021 01:13 PM

I know this is just another "story", but a friends uncle said he had one that he bought new. He said this car had head gasket issues and after having the dealership replace them a few times, The heads were replaced with iron heads. This ended the head gasket issues and the car was later traded in for a more "family friendly" car.

J jones 12-27-2021 05:22 PM

Had a similar problem with mine after rebuild and a few miles, mine had a small leak. Re torked and so far so good.


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