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1969 copo l88 convertible
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The Only COPO L88 Known To Exist https://www.mecum.com/lots/SC0522-50...8-convertible/ |
4.56 COPO axle order. I wonder if the intention was drag racing at first and then usage evolved into road racing....
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I am confused by this ad ....
I have heard that COPO means either Central Office Production Order or Central Office Purchase Order but that doesn't really matter as that isn't the confusing part. My understanding was that in 1969, Chevrolet would not sell Camaros with an engine larger than 400 cu in so several dealers got together and order a bunch of Camaros through the COPO "fleet" program. This allowed the dealers to put in a large order for Camaros with 427 engines. I have also heard of COPO Chevelles as this would allow a relatively large volume purchase of 427 Chevelles when the "factory" only offered the 396 as the largest engine. That being said, IF the above is correct, COPO means "large fleet order" yet I have only ever heard of COPO Chevelles and COPO Camaros. If there is such a thing as a COPO Corvette, shouldn't there be a large number of them too, in order to satisfy the fleet order requirement? I always assumed an L88 Corvette was simply a car that was available to order directly from a dealer (or maybe specifically from a "performance" dealer who knew how to find the possibly well hidden order code) and the low number of cars built simply reflects the low number of Corvettes ordered with the L88 engine. If I am correct (and it doesn't appear that I am), how is it possible that a dealer ended up ordering a "fleet of one" L88 Corvette? I may be wrong but I seem to recall reading that a "fleet order" had to be a minimum of 50 cars, which is why several dealers got together to put in a COPO order of 427 Camaros. What am I missing? |
Does anyone know the VIN of this car?
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I believe this car is a non J56 brake L88, that is why it is one of one and a COPO. J56 brakes were manditory on L88's.
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I'm confused too Tony. It looks to me like the tank sticker says the COPO is listed after the ZR1 option as "COPO TRANS M22"
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The build sheet seems to indicate the COPO was the M22 trans? Was the standard trans for the L88 an M21? That seems strange.
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M22 or M40 was standard, so that's not what's driving the COPO.
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I see the COPO M22 has a what appears to be a code "02ZW1AA"....maybe a wide ratio M22?
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The COPO process existed well before all these performance vehicles were ordered. Its original intent, and major usage, was to configure special vehicles outside the production process. Normally this would be nondescript vehicles like special order taxi cabs, or some quantity of vehicles in a particular color or with regular option content removed. The idea to co-opt the COPO process to create high performance dealer packages came later. Also - often the production volume quantities were a constrain by race sanctioning bodies; ie - there needed to be 50 production vehicles in order to allow entry in a certain race class. Jim Mattison, more famously known as the creator and owner of Pontiac Historic Services, did this job when he worked at Chevrolet. K |
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As current '69 'Velle thread, some factory GM info noted Copo 9511 necessary to get 4:56 or 4:88 for 1969 cars only....all models. Even though 9511 not noted w/ this L88's paperwork, the M22 may be specific to suit rear also the 9511 may've shown if 4:56 part was printed info, not added w/ pen?:hmmm: :beers: ~ Pete . |
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The VIN is 194679S722688 to answer your question. Best Regards, Drew Papsun 203-286-6024 |
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Believe me, I am not claiming I know what I am talking about :laugh: The COPO fleet order makes those cars special (in my mind) simply because not every dealer could or would want to place a large order. That being said, the apparent fact (or possibility) that a certain trans or rear gear may have required a COPO order isn't special in my eyes if any dealer could have placed that order. Ticking a box on a different order form (the COPO form) in order to get 4.88 gears, something that (it sounds like) any dealer could have done just isn't the same (again, to me) as a dealer or a couple of dealers getting together to pull the wool over GM's eyes, go against company policy, and order something GM said it won't allow. COPO ordered 4.88's isn't special if that was simply the process needed in order to get that ratio. The gear ratio itself may be worth talking about if it is one of three (or whatever) to get the ratio but that it had to be ordered through COPO ... meh ... not seeing it as special :) Please keep in mind, this is just my opinion and I have already admitted to not knowing what I am talking about :) |
Drew, thank you so much. I want to put the VIN with the tank sticker in my files.
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9S721263 has almost the same options - L88, M22, 4.56 - and it doesn't list the COPO trans.
ZW1 is that it's an internal RPO and would not have shown up on the window sticker or shipper. That said, I don't know why it's listed at all. Quote:
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Thank's Kurt. I googled the VIN and it is 21688.
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