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tom M 07-24-2022 10:21 PM

4k mile 1 owner V code Cuda
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we3QztB9aYo

Ls648410 07-24-2022 11:24 PM

The guy should have asked the owner the story behind the AC Delco Battery in a MOPAR LOL :wink:

tom M 07-25-2022 02:08 PM

guy needs wome work on his videos.
his knowledge is severely lacking.

Tracker1 07-26-2022 01:42 PM

That's a beautiful example, so rare to see them with the original E60 Polyglas tires. Usually long replaced by the F60s.

Pet peeve: if you bought the car it isn't an "original owner car". You're the second owner. It is no longer a one-owner car. I wish people would stop saying that, it's mis-leading. Don't care if it is still "in his name", money changed hands, bill of sale was signed. Car is now the second owners' vehicle.

Bigbirdxx 07-26-2022 07:07 PM

The Cuda is super cool,
But I would rather find a 1 owner F-4 Phantom from 1970.

black69 07-26-2022 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Tracker1 (Post 1596568)
That's a beautiful example, so rare to see them with the original E60 Polyglas tires. Usually long replaced by the F60s.

Pet peeve: if you bought the car it isn't an "original owner car". You're the second owner. It is no longer a one-owner car. I wish people would stop saying that, it's mis-leading. Don't care if it is still "in his name", money changed hands, bill of sale was signed. Car is now the second owners' vehicle.

Agree on both above. So so hard to find those tires now. And I too thought it was stupid to call this a one owner car, it's not.

RJS 07-26-2022 11:00 PM

I see why Mike is doing it but most insurance company's won't payout if you don't title a car into your name.
Ron

Lee Stewart 07-27-2022 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by RJS (Post 1596612)
I see why Mike is doing it but most insurance company's won't payout if you don't title a car into your name.
Ron

Are you sure about that? The Bill of Sale, a legal document, signed by the Buyer and Seller, transfers ownership of the vehicle.

Jimlt4383 07-27-2022 05:57 AM

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Here is a 1968 hemi Cuda still titled in the original owners name that has always been sold on a bill of sale. Buddy Martin was the 2nd owner.

Keith Seymore 07-27-2022 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Tracker1 (Post 1596568)

Pet peeve: if you bought the car it isn't an "original owner car". You're the second owner. It is no longer a one-owner car. I wish people would stop saying that, it's mis-leading. Don't care if it is still "in his name", money changed hands, bill of sale was signed. Car is now the second owners' vehicle.

So - sidebar:

What do you call a car that the son of the original owner (now deceased) has?

"Original family owned"? Original owner's son owned"?

All of the verbiage is a bit clunky.

Asking for a friend ;)

K

Big Block Bill 07-27-2022 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart (Post 1596619)
Are you sure about that? The Bill of Sale, a legal document, signed by the Buyer and Seller, transfers ownership of the vehicle.

I believe the Illinois Department of revenue would frown upon it. When a car is sold on a Bill of Sale, there is no record of it with the Secretary Of State that there was a Sale, resulting in no Sales tax being paid to the Department of Revenue. They call it "Jumping a Title" as far as I know, Illegal in all States. And you also can not legally insure a vehicle unless it is in your name. If you do and there is a complete loss, the insurance company will not pay out. This happened to my old Boss when his Son totaled a pickup that was titled in his Son's name and insured on the Company's insurance policy.

Bill

Bill Pritchard 07-27-2022 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tracker1 (Post 1596568)
That's a beautiful example, so rare to see them with the original E60 Polyglas tires. Usually long replaced by the F60s.

So this means that the 440-6 cars got E60's and the Hemi cars got F60's? Wasn't aware of that.

Big Block Bill 07-27-2022 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Pritchard (Post 1596653)
So this means that the 440-6 cars got E60's and the Hemi cars got F60's? Wasn't aware of that.

I sold an NOS pair of Goodyear E60 15's to a Guy at Jefferson swap meet about 5 years ago and he told me the only E Body's that had had them from the factory were the front only of the TA, AAR and HEMI Cars. If I remember correctly I got $1500.00 for the pair. FWIW

Bill

Lee Stewart 07-27-2022 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Pritchard (Post 1596653)
So this means that the 440-6 cars got E60's and the Hemi cars got F60's? Wasn't aware of that.

Hemi Cudas and Challenger R/Ts got special rolled front fenders to give clearance for the F60s. Would have a TAG that says HEMI FENDER

black69 07-27-2022 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Block Bill (Post 1596659)
I sold an NOS pair of Goodyear E60 15's to a Guy at Jefferson swap meet about 5 years ago and he told me the only E Body's that had had them from the factory were the front only of the TA, AAR and HEMI Cars. If I remember correctly I got $1500.00 for the pair. FWIW

Bill

good info above, I just assumed F60 would be fine on the 340 70 cuda convert I am restoring (original 15" wheel car) but now I need to look at the window sticker info as I bet it will say E60. crap.

Lee Stewart 07-27-2022 05:10 PM

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Lee Stewart 07-27-2022 05:10 PM

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Tracker1 07-27-2022 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by black69 (Post 1596662)
good info above, .

HEMI cars did not receive E60s, only F60s. Your 340 car would have received E60s, however I have seen 340 & 383 cars that were optionally equipped with 15-inch wheels get rolled fenders, even though not a Hemi car. Have a look at yours.

black69 07-27-2022 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Tracker1 (Post 1596668)
HEMI cars did not receive E60s, only F60s. Your 340 car would have received E60s, however I have seen 340 & 383 cars that were optionally equipped with 15-inch wheels get rolled fenders, even though not a Hemi car. Have a look at yours.

I believe they were rolled. Need to double check but 90% sure.

Tracker1 07-28-2022 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by black69 (Post 1596676)
I believe they were rolled. Need to double check but 90% sure.

If they have been rolled the F60s will fit no problem and they will fill out your wheel wells nicely.

Big Block Bill 07-28-2022 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart (Post 1596664)

Am I missing something? I don't see F60-15 listed anywhere, nor does it say anything about the AAR, TA, and 426 Hemi Cars.

Bill

Bill Pritchard 07-28-2022 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by black69 (Post 1596676)
I believe they were rolled. Need to double check but 90% sure.

Absolutely they were rolled. The Hemi Challenger I bought from the OO and restored back in the 80's had them. Original fenders were rusted so I bought new ones direct from Chrysler. One side was still available with the rolled lip, the other side I had to have the body shop roll the lip to match. Must have been some really tight clearance such that an F60 required the rolled lip but the E60 did not.

BBBill, the F60s were part & parcel of the package you got when ordering the 426 Hemi engine. Apparently n/a with other engines so no need to list them as an option. Same deal with the tires that came with the AAR Cuda and T/A Challenger.

RJS 07-28-2022 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by black69 (Post 1596662)
good info above, I just assumed F60 would be fine on the 340 70 cuda convert I am restoring (original 15" wheel car) but now I need to look at the window sticker info as I bet it will say E60. crap.

That information a guy said at a swap meet is 100% wrong.

Optional tires on E-Body's (except AAR's and T/A's) were E 60-15 GoodYear Poly Glas W/ all V-8's except a Hemi
Standard tire on E-Body w/Hemi was F 60-15 GoodYear Poly Glas
Standard tires on AAR's and T/A's were E 60-15 front and G 60-15 rear GoodYear Poly Glas

All these 60 series tires only came on 15x7 rims either steel wheel or rallye wheel no other choice for a 60 sries 15" Mopar

E 60-15 GoodYears are reproduced but on BO
F 60-15 GoodYears are reproduced but on BO
G 60-15 GoodYears are reproduced but on BO
Ron

RJS 07-28-2022 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Pritchard (Post 1596653)
So this means that the 440-6 cars got E60's and the Hemi cars got F60's? Wasn't aware of that.


Yes Bill that is correct

Ron

Big Block Bill 07-29-2022 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RJS (Post 1596748)
That information a guy said at a swap meet is 100% wrong.

Optional tires on E-Body's (except AAR's and T/A's) were E 60-15 GoodYear Poly Glas W/ all V-8's except a Hemi
Standard tire on E-Body w/Hemi was F 60-15 GoodYear Poly Glas
Standard tires on AAR's and T/A's were E 60-15 front and G 60-15 rear GoodYear Poly Glas

All these 60 series tires only came on 15x7 rims either steel wheel or rallye wheel no other choice for a 60 sries 15" Mopar

E 60-15 GoodYears are reproduced but on BO
F 60-15 GoodYears are reproduced but on BO
G 60-15 GoodYears are reproduced but on BO
Ron

So the guy was right on the: "Standard tires on AAR's and T/A's were E 60-15 front", but not on the Hemi. So I'm not totally loosing it.

Bill

Lee Stewart 07-29-2022 03:21 PM

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black69 07-29-2022 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tracker1 (Post 1596668)
HEMI cars did not receive E60s, only F60s. Your 340 car would have received E60s, however I have seen 340 & 383 cars that were optionally equipped with 15-inch wheels get rolled fenders, even though not a Hemi car. Have a look at yours.

I checked the window sticker on the 70 340 convert and it just said wide oval and was part of a $68 group with all kinds of other items (hood pins, etc).

BUT I have a neat consumer information paper that folds to a large size that has the VIN on it and it ONLY shows E 60 -15 tire for the stopping distance.

Fun to see on this consumer information print out that a 70 340 cuda can be 100 ft behind a 55 ft long truck (both doing 50mph) and pass it to a point it's 100 ft in front of it in 10.7 seconds. So I guess I do have a 10 second car!!! ;)

Lee Stewart 07-29-2022 08:57 PM

When the Challenger first came out there was an option called A66: Challenger 340 4-bbl Engine Package which cost $258.90. Included with this option were E60x15 RWL Polyglas tires on the new 15" Rallye Wheels. Later in the model year the E60s were dropped as standard equipment for the option.

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Unfortunately many of these were converted to R/Ts so only the fender tag will tell what it is.


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