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motionsid 09-29-2022 08:29 PM

1969 Motion Green Meanie Camaro
 
Looking for info on this car, - was it modified before it was sold (as a new car). What did the original green meanie rear spoiler look like? exact date it was sold? When (date) did the green meanie project start/ stop? I have a green 1969 Baldwin Motion Camaro and am wondering if there might be a connection. Any help or info relating to this would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks for any and all response. motionsid

smallblockhero 09-30-2022 04:18 AM

the green meanie was talked about in a thread here before. not sure if any information in here will help. i have the issue of cars magazine where it was featured so if anything is missing let me know and ill scan it.

https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?p=937239

motionsid 09-30-2022 09:01 AM

Thanks a lot for looking into this. I have this article/ magazine. Really looking for someone who actually may have seen the car or had pictures of it. My car was purchased in late December 1969 but was not delivered till January 13, 1970. The original owner said he did not want a small block and Motion put a big block in it for him. My car definitely started out as a Z/28, was fathom green, had the green vinyl top, and also has green interior. I have the original "bill of sale". It sold as an SS427.

PeteLeathersac 10-01-2022 02:47 AM

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Wow if already a real BM 427 car w/ genuine paperwork, please share more!
Cool what you're thinking and certainly worth digging into also great to hear it's got the VT.
When did your BM427 car sell also where was the Original purchaser from as the Mag article indicates Green Meanie sold w/ SB to an out of State buyer?:hmmm:
What of mods/parts originally added compared to your car now, any exact parts remaining and/or holes including 'Vette Sidepipe mountings also cowl mounted rev limiter as the one pic etc?
Rear Spoiler likely Wing style but crazy there's no pics, what of any old mounting holes existing on yours?
What rear axle is w/ yours also if original housing, are gears original too or what if not?
Cool topic, keep digging and best of luck w/ your quest!
:beers:
~ Pete

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JoeC 10-02-2022 05:36 AM

I wish there was a better photo of the Green Meanie. It looks like it was a Fathom green Z/28 with black top, L88 hood, wing spoiler, Mustang mirrors, and 1969 Corvette side pipes?

I have not seen 69 Corvette side pipes on a 1969 Motion Camaro. Normally they used the C2 sidepipes so would be cool to see a photo of the complete car. At the time the article was done they said the car was sold before they could get better photos.

motionsid 10-04-2022 02:56 AM

My car was definitely a fathom green Z/28, and according to the original bill of sale it was sold as an SS427. The holes for the Z/28 emblems are still in the front fenders, and there are impressions in the grille where there was a Z/28 emblem. I never looked for sidepipe mounting holes. It has a custom rigged exhaust on it made of flexible pipe and glasspacks from the headers back. there were some parts stolen off the car in the 70s which is why/how I was able to purchase it. It has 12,010 miles on it but needs restored badly.

motionsid 10-04-2022 03:31 AM

Green Meanie
 
My car has one of those long, odd Vietnam war stories. The original owner was in Vietnam and sent his mother the money to put a down payment on a new SS427 Motion Camaro. Something happened (injured in action) and he couldn't get back to the states by June to pick up the car. Finally arrived back a week before Christmas and went to New York to get his car. They sold his car thinking he was never coming back- just as happened to other guys back then.
Understandable all things considered. I was told there were only 2 cars that could be converted to 427 status, this green 4spd and one other /automatic. He chose the 4spd.
Because it was a small block and he had to have a big block Motion changed it to be more like the car he wanted. Conversion took a couple of weeks, and he took delivery I think bill of sale says Jan. 13, 1970. (Will have to check, memory misses a gear every now and then).
I had developed/still have health issues and the car has been sitting under the rear porch since the 70s. I have not looked at the car in probably 4or 5 years, just to notice that it is still there. Wish I never got sick....

JoeC 10-04-2022 08:45 AM

do you have the NCRS Shipping Data Report on your car ?

motionsid 10-04-2022 12:28 PM

No, I am. not familiar with that.

JoeC 10-04-2022 01:00 PM

the National Corvette Restorers Society Shipping Data Report can tell you the dealer your car was shipped to and the date. The cost is $60

here is their web site
https://www.chevymuscledocs.com/

They are missing the data for 1969 Camaros vin no. 9N508855 to 9N587275

Mr70 10-04-2022 01:04 PM

motionsid
Any chance you could show us photos of this car as it sits today?

motionsid 10-25-2022 06:02 PM

Pics of car
 
I can't figure out how to send a picture to this site or I would have sent several.

Mr70 10-25-2022 06:10 PM

I'll post them for you if you email them to me at [email protected]

motionsid 10-25-2022 06:45 PM

I will try to send from my phone in a few minutes. For some reason this laptop won't recognize this phone and so I can't download pictures to send. Thanks a million for helping. Please understand that I don't want
ANYONE to bother me trying to buy it .

motionsid 10-25-2022 07:02 PM

Green Meanie Document
 
I have applied for the NCRS shipping documents today. I'm curious to see what dealer my car was delivered to. It was built in February and the original owner didn't make the agreement to buy it from Baldwin/Motion until a day or two before Christmas. I don't care for green, but its hard to believe nobody else wanted a green car on Long Island.

JoeC 10-25-2022 08:42 PM

ok good luck let us know

Mike 10-26-2022 12:05 AM

I had sent you a PM but do you happen to know if your car spent any time in the Binghamton, NY area?

Mr70 10-26-2022 12:05 PM

Just letting you know nothing has arrived here motionsid.
I understand you not wanting to bothered with buyers,as I'm not one.
Whatever you decide to do is fine,just trying to help out on this topic.

Mr70 10-28-2022 03:28 PM

2 Attachment(s)
From motionsid.

Astock 10-28-2022 04:37 PM

Real deal.

AnthonyS 10-28-2022 04:48 PM

Wow!

JoeC 10-28-2022 05:24 PM

looks interesting.

JoeC 10-28-2022 05:36 PM

1 Attachment(s)
the Green Meenie was a Z/28

I would look for 427 emblems or holes for them on your car or holes for other motion items

is your heater core for a big block or small block?

under hood pics and trim tag pics would help

dykstra 10-28-2022 08:42 PM

Very cool!!!!

PeteLeathersac 04-03-2023 12:26 AM



Love to hear if anything more known of this one?
:beers:
~ Pete

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Charley Lillard 04-03-2023 01:45 PM

All we get is one pic ? This car needs to be in our Barn Find display at MCACN.

PeteLeathersac 04-16-2023 03:05 AM



Another bump for this thread, anyone please speak up if info to share.
Has this car’s Motion history been clarified yet also maybe more important, is it THE Green Meanie?
:beers:
~ Pete

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JoeC 04-18-2023 11:06 AM

The Green Meanie was a Z/28 and this car has an SS emblem on the back but that could have been changed

PeteLeathersac 04-21-2023 03:23 AM



Yep, back in Post 6 the OP noted holes still in fenders from Z-28 emblems also grille impression from one removed.
Sorry to keep bopping this thread up but I expect I’m not the only one that would love to hear more, especially if a genuine Motion car also even more so if it’s the Green Meanie!
Hope the OP drops back but anyone please speak up if any facts to share.
:beers:
~ Pete

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Too Many Projects 04-21-2023 03:56 AM

He hasn't been here since his last post...
He said he was sick, hope he didn't pass on and leave the car to fate.

Last Activity: 10-25-2022

Mr70 04-21-2023 12:00 PM

Just sent him an email,via the addy he sent to me last year,hope he replies back.

bergy 05-10-2023 12:29 PM

Chick Renn and I inspected the car on Sunday. Very sad findings. It was pulled out of a field with a tree growing up through the engine compartment in the mid 70s. Then promptly rolled into a low spot behind a house where water gathered during rainy days. Sheetmetal is shot. Only drivetrain component that may be OE is the rear - but it's so badly corroded that no numbers are present. TT shows 02D built X33 car. Green, green, green. Owner says that he's going to "give it a paint job" someday". Not interested in selling it. Not receptive to assistance in simply getting it out of the hole that it's in. Says that he bought it from OO, but won't divulge his name.

Actually nice guy to talk to. We had lunch with he and his wife (super nice). Just delusional (IMO) regarding the car. Another one of those "someday" cars :-(

COPO 05-11-2023 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bergy (Post 1622198)
Chick Renn and I inspected the car on Sunday. Very sad findings. It was pulled out of a field with a tree growing up through the engine compartment in the mid 70s. Then promptly rolled into a low spot behind a house where water gathered during rainy days. Sheetmetal is shot. Only drivetrain component that may be OE is the rear - but it's so badly corroded that no numbers are present. TT shows 02D built X33 car. Green, green, green. Owner says that he's going to "give it a paint job" someday". Not interested in selling it. Not receptive to assistance in simply getting it out of the hole that it's in. Says that he bought it from OO, but won't divulge his name.

Actually nice guy to talk to. We had lunch with he and his wife (super nice). Just delusional (IMO) regarding the car. Another one of those "someday" cars :-(

I am assuming you got the VIN and ran the NCRS report on the original dealer. Did it come back to Baldwin Motor Co?

Seems quite odd the guy would let you look at the car and then have no interest in trying to at least preserve it even if not for sale. Quite a shame.

bergy 05-11-2023 10:19 PM

Yes - comes back Baldwin.

COPO 05-12-2023 04:28 AM

Short of any other evidence to the contrary, seems to be a triple green rusted out Z-28 body without drivetrain originally delivered to Baldwin Motor Co. Interesting someone put an "SS" emblem on rear tail panel given it was a Z-28.

Given present owner, unlikely more will be known in near term.

JoeC 05-12-2023 08:04 PM

What hood is on the car now?

Does he know where the original lived in 1969 ?

bergy 05-12-2023 08:38 PM

Has stinger pressed fiberglass hood - not hand laid or chopped.. No manufacturer's markings. Support ribs like later A&A hoods. Hood is cut up & caved in. May have been placed over the opening later since the owner says that there was a tree growing up through the engine compartment when he purchased the car. He won't say where the OO lived - so ??

GMC_Typhoon 05-12-2023 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bergy (Post 1622329)
Has stinger pressed fiberglass hood - not hand laid or chopped.. No manufacturer's markings. Support ribs like later A&A hoods. Hood is cut up & caved in. May have been placed over the opening later since the owner says that there was a tree growing up through the engine compartment when he purchased the car. He won't say where the OO lived - so ??

The guy said he has the original bill of sale from Motion that says it a ss427. Guess it doesn't matter if he doesn't care.Maybe the guy with the Motion paperwork could check for the VIN?

bergy 05-12-2023 10:40 PM

The paperwork that he has is a generic invoice with Baldwin Chevrolet stamped at the top. Not like the usual pre- printed Baldwin invoices. It’s dated in January of 1970 - 11 months after the 02B build date on the TT. There is no VIn on the invoice. He doesn’t have any Motion paperwork other then a Motion receipt from 1986 when he went there and bought some accessories. He says that the Motion” installed short block is in the car, but the assembly date is December of 1968 (13 months before the date on the Baldwin paper). Also, the engine code on the short block is for a full size L72 car. Not a CE block. Owner says someone stole the top end of the motor & left the short block. Ugh!

GMC_Typhoon 05-12-2023 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bergy (Post 1622345)
The paperwork that he has is a generic invoice with Baldwin Chevrolet stamped at the top. Not like the usual pre- printed Baldwin invoices. It’s dated in January of 1970 - 11 months after the 02B build date on the TT. There is no VIn on the invoice. He doesn’t have any Motion paperwork other then a Motion receipt from 1986 when he went there and bought some accessories. He says that the Motion” installed short block is in the car, but the assembly date is December of 1968 (13 months before the date on the Baldwin paper). Also, the engine code on the short block is for a full size L72 car. Not a CE block. Owner says someone stole the top end of the motor & left the short block. Ugh!

Ok so just another wild goose chase. That sucks but you know the facts,so that's good.


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