1970 L78 nova
 

I JUST BOUGHT A 70 NOVA SS L78 CAR ,TURBO 400,410 GEARS. LOW MILEAGE CAR THATS BEEN OFF THE ROAD SINCE 1979. ORIGINAL PAINT,COMPLETE NUMBERS MATCHING WITH ALL THE ORIGINAL PAPERWORK! SOLD NEW AT REEDMAN. DOES ANYBODY KNOW HOW MANY WERE BUILT? DONT KNOW THAT MUCH ABOUT NOVA'S,BUT I THINK ITS A GREAT FIND!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Real common, lots made, kinda boring, wanna sell it ?

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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gifStraight to the pointe, eh Charlie?!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...arleySucks.gif

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Congrats on your find! There were 3765 RPO-L78 Novas built for the 1970 model year. This is last year for the big block Nova. I don't have a breakdown bwtween 4spd. and auto but it's fair to say there were certainly many more 4spd cars produced. If you check your paperwork you will probably find the car came with a 3:55 Posi rear, your current gears were not available in that car from the factory. I have a matching # 70 L78 auto car myself. Black with black bench seat and no frills. These cars are a hoot to drive and really run well with that h.d. turbo 400. I sent you a PM with some more info. Good luck.

Tom Williams

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Tom, i mean no disrespect,but this car absolutly came with the 410 gears! it says it on the factory order form. the guy walked in to reedman with his best friend,who i bought the car from.[the original owner is deceased] and ordered this car with a bench seat![to sit next to his girlfriend] am radio,ps,deluxe int,rear defroster,door edge guards and some more options! i'll share the paperwork with you in the future. i have to leave for the eagles game now,talk to you later...don https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Hey no disrespect but,as for the Eagles https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/Charley.gif Go Panthers!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/headbang.gif!!!!!!

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AH come on!!! Panthers can't play in the cold. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...thumbsdown.gif

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Apparently,neither can the Colts.

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I really don't care who wins the game. Just glad to see another L78 car come out of hiding. TW

GO TEAM NOVA!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

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Hey no disrespect but,as for the Eagles https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/Charley.gif Go Panthers!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/headbang.gif!!!!!!

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I have to second that notion! Its not often that the Panthers get to the playoffs. They just might prevail!!

Us Southern boys usually cheer for college basketball. Teams like UNC (Tarheals), Duke (Blue Devils), UNCS (Wolfpack), and Wake Forest (Demon Decons) predominate in the 'sweet 16' leading up to the final four.

In any case, the best team will win on this given day. Next week, any other team could win. It just depends on whos' pumped-up for the contest.

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Why couldn't a Nova come with a 4.10 gear in '70? There is a block on the dealer's order form for the various options, including G80 for the posi rear. I have seen where the dealer simply writes "4.10" next to the option box, and the car came with a 4.10!

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Marlin,
I know you dont realize this from your 70 deuce, but these Nova's when equipped with the "real big block" power instead of the trainer engines could do some serious body twisting with the right combination of driver and tire. Add a 4.10 gear set or more and your local bodyman will be doing a jig atop his Bondo can! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif I see you have a Big Block car, congrats on your passage into Manhood! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif Heck, it's better then running 50 miles through the desert to be named Big Eagle instead of ChickenHawk! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif And heaven forbid a set of 4.10 gears hooking up behind a stout Big Block if any of the body panels were stamped overseas! As Chubby Checker said so well; "Come on Baby,,,lets do the Twist..." https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif Now you know I'm just kiddin with ya there M, we just aint had no fun in awhile! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif By the way, I did try to catch you on the phone, just read your message last night, I will try to call this evening. Oh hey, I noticed on one of the other sites you were asking the firing order to your car, it's 18432576. Have a nice day M, talk to ya later! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif
Your Pal,
Motown https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif

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Matt;
You are hardly funny.

BTW, I don't define my manhood with an engine. But since you brought it up, the hp rating of my LT1 Nova is obviously 370 due to the 'vette marketing thing, and has a curb weight of approx. 3100lbs. My big block L78 Nova is 375hp, and has a curb weight of approx. 3500-3600lbs. Now, your little manhood aside, do I need to explain the power to weight ratio thing to you?

The torque of the engine mated to a 4.10 gear will twist a subframe car, you get an 'A'. Does that mean that GM didn't produce it?

Oh yea, the firing order of Deuce is cast into the intake manifold smartie! Don't be making up posts for me when you should be pulling that Yenko Camaro out of the guy's back yard with all your biker buddies https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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Marlin, the entire post was a attempt at lightning up the day around here, you didnt need any numbers and stats to throw back at me (in record time by the way),, and do you really think I believed you didnt know a Chevrolet firing order? That is funny! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif I am not sitting on the edge of my chair grinding my teeth anymore, I learned how to be calm and deal with the oddities of life with a grin and a shrug, cant push my buttons anymore like in days gone by, Charley has been schooling me in babysitting, which is the true test of patience and tolerence. So relax a bit, pop a couple of those pimples that are causing undue pressure in your head, and grab your blankie....it's nap time......
Motown https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif

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Your usual stuff Matt; so many words, so little said - you really should have been a politician. Let's just keep it real, and about the cars, ok pops https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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Where can I get one of these for Matt? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/Charley.gif

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Well thanks Marlin, I would find my own sign a compliment! Glad to see I didnt get bombarded again with numbers and stats, as you get older and youngsters are calling you Pops you will find no need to recite all the numbers and stats, it will come natural to you like riding your bike when dad took the training wheels off....But, I will give you a call later as I could use your opinion on some of the serious car stuff, although I do like to ruffle your feathers a bit, I also respect your opinion and knowledge.(That was like fingernails on a chaulkboard!) Talk to ya later, son...
Motown https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring

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GTODON
What color combo is your L78 Nova?
I am curious as to what the Suffix code on your 4:10 rearend is?
I know the 70 Deuce Could get a Special 4:10 posi,so would that be the same suffix code the 1970 RPO L78 Nova shared too?
In the 1970 Chevrolet parts books,they do not show any 4:10 Posi suffix code for the 1970 Nova,but they do for the 1969 Nova of a BV 4:10 posi code.Could that have been used in 1970 Nova too? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif
Rick

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The Yenko Deuce special rear code is CBW, not found in any books. Rick has a good point, get the code off the rear. An interesting sidenote is that a few Yenko Deuces have been found with gears other than 4.10's but with the 4.10 code stamped on the tube. I wouldn't bet my paycheck on the mishap, but I guess anything is possible!

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Marlin, Back to the car stuff, your numbers on power to weight are correct, but you failed to factor in torque in the equation, which is somewhat more with the big block. Any twisting taking place will do so in maximum torque range,(low end), vs maximun HP range, (mid to high end). The actual HP rating at low end launching from the lights is no where near the stated numbers. The big block having more torque will create a greater twist factor, which always occours at launch under max torque. I dont know if this theory has anything to do with chevrolets decision not to put the 4.10 in the BB Nova, there may be a multitude of reasons or none at all. Although this theory makes sense, that doesnt mean Chevy even considered it. The frame shop I worked in many years back had the most business pulling High Performance drag cars back straight from the Buick crowd, which happens to have the highest Torque ratings of all GM. Hmmmmmm........
Motown https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Matt;
The '68 and '69 Novas came with BB's and 4.10's, as did the Camaro's. Why would it suddenly become unfeasible for a '70 Nova?

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Marlin,
I can only take a guess, possibly the same problem Don had, pressure from the safety freaks in government and insurance companies, by removing the 4.10 option it would seem logical that would tone down the Big Block a bit. This is just a guess, as a matter of fact I am not sure they didnt offer the 4.10, I am only speculating based on the previous post that indicated they didnt. I do know however that all the automakers were under extreme pressure from uncle Sam and the corporate insurance muscle, it became a real problem for the big three to please the public and the factions screaming for sanity. Fuel prices were also rising, it was bad advertisment for a off the lot car to get 8-10 MPG which was the case with the extremely low geared muscle, by a simple change to a 3.73 mileage increased to a claimable 12-14 MPG which was a bit easier for John Q to swallow with the rising fuel costs while the cost of living increases remained stale. Fuel prices were long overdue to go up, a gallon of gas could be had in the fifties for 15-16 cents, in 68-69 the gas wars saw it drop to 16-17 cents. It seemed that the entire Market Basket had increased over the years while gas remained in about the same range. The liberal free sixties were on the way to history to make way for a more responsible conservative seventies, suddenly those crazy kids and their dangerous gas guzzlers were becoming a target for every ambitious politician and the big corporate lobby groups. Consider the changes in American Muscle between 69 and 74, just five years, it becomes easier to understand why changes were taking place with the hi performance options available to the consumer.
Motown https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif

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yada, yada, yada, ZZZZzzzzzzzzzz..
Wait, the '70's were conservative? Huh? Oh, you were self medicating again. ZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz..

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Marlin,
The seventies may have seemed open and wild to someone who was not even alive in the sixties, I can assure you the seventies didnt hold a candle to the sixties, The last "REAL" party I was at was Woodstock, I am sure you thought your Bannana seat Stingray bicycle was liberal and wild, but the decade prior to that would have swallowed many of the seventies Disco Ducks alive. You still wear polyester Marlin? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif
Motown https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif

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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif
Enough already.

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Don,between football and torque this topic really took a turn. I hope your car is truly a factory installed 4:10 with some unique axle code. Finding a special car is always great. Enjoy! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

Tom

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Marlin, its just as you said,on the order form,he ordered g80 positraction,next to it he wrote '410'gears. I have not been under the car yet,but when i do i'll be sure to get the code for you. The nova is code 58 dark gold met with gold interior,not one of my favorite colors to be honest, the car also has rally wheels on it and it has that option listed on the window sticker! I thought all ss's had the same wheels like a 70 ss chevelle had but the guys wife says those are the wheels the car had when it was new,i have to check the codes to see if she's correct. the guy i bought it from said the car was the fastest car in their town in the early 70's.[he said its a bear!!] The trans was just rebuilt and the guy at the shop said he hasnt seen one of those trannys in a long time,said it has a torque converter out of a jaguar,I knew it had a different clutch pack,but never heard that!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif The rims are 14x7 with get this, https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gifJ-60-14 MCREARY'S ON THE BACK!! Whens the last time you saw a pair of those? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

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Marlin,
...the firing order to your car, it's 18432576. Have a nice day M, ...

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Hey "Pops", ever try using a 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2 firing order on the ol' Chevy V8s? I find my SS really prefers it. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

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A good friend of mine bought a brand new Forest green 70 Nova L78, Turbo 400, 4.10 posi. Came that way from the factory. Undesirably slow factory stock, but the usual 'Day 2' mods woke it up, ran a best of 12.95. Wrapped it around a telephone pole around 72 or 73 https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/frown.gif Luckily he was OK.

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Well, it's about time! I wanted Marlin to catch that but he was so aggravated it blew right by him as well as everyboby else! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif Good job pxtx, you win the "attention to detail award" https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/shocked.gif I didnt notice it until after I had posted it, worked out so perfect I didnt have the heart to edit it, wish I could take the credit for thinking it up on purpose but alas, it was a typo. Still cant believe everyone has been reading the post for hours and Finally some one caught the goof. Right on! Must have been fallout from all the recreation during the late sixties that screwed up my brain/hand co-ordination, or, could be I just dont type for $hit! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif
Thanks,
Motown https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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I've had both. A 70 L78 nova, and a deuce. The deuce would have kicked that L78s a$$ all over the street.
The problem with frame twisting is'nt the 4.10 gears with stock tires, and rims. Its when you put on the serious big meats of the day back then and started sidestepping the clutch at 6k. That would tweak the qtrs. Most people were sharp enough to put on frame connectors. Schonye

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Something must have been wrong with your L78 https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/shocked.gifIf they both have the same gears,I'll take a solid lifter big block over a solid lifter small block anyday!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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What the L78 had six people in it. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif

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Schonye, You know as well as I do that we love the little motors. Horsepower per cubic inch I think the small blocks got the big blocks beat but...... If my 1969 LT1 nova beat a comparable big block nova or camaro back in the day was because they were not set up correctly. I NEVER beat a good running rat motor car with basically the same set up as my 350 car had unless of driver error. My nova with the LT1 slicks, bars, headers, Hurst competition plus etc. (I drove the car to the track) Motor was balanced and clearanced but basically stock with the factory LT1 cam ran a best of 12.08 114.62. That was real good in those days. The big block guys with basically the same set up ALWAYS ran 11.70's. Also the big block camaros for the most part beat all the new LS6 chevelles, with the same set up. I was there, there was no doubt. I spent many a night down Front st. and Delaware ave. in Philly in those days. That is where the little motors would sometimes beat a big block, because of traction. Like I said it really depends on who owned them and drve them. An 85% efficient running small block could beat a 60% efficient running big block. And about the twisting, the tires in those days wern't good enough to twist those frames and sheetmetal as much as some people think. Starting in the early 70's did it become necessary to tie the frames. I don't even think Jenkins 1st. Pro Stock car had the frame tied at that point. P.S. Some people have to stop reading the books and start believing the guys that were there. You could basically get any combo that you wanted if the salesperson would order it for you.I don't care what the options list said or build sheets. Your salesperson was very important in those days. Now, You really can't order much. GM didn't stop making 4:10's in 1970 did they? If Don's car has a 4:10 in it, how can anyone dispute it. Just because the options list didn't state it? Come on! In 1970 it was not rocket science. How many 1959 ElCaminos did people ever see with fuel injection? Well they were available and I saw one. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/headbang.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

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Motown, now we're supposed to proof your rants for you? You assume that everybody even reads your baseless epics!

Sam, I agree with both you and Schoneye, what do they say; 'On any given raceday'.

Don,
Good to hear more about your car, I for one, love that color combo - the more unique the better!

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Marlin,
I suppose your right and everybody doesnt read all.....but you did. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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How about some more football in this poor guy's thread!

It will be cool to find out what the code is on this rear. I have seen the 4.10 written in on other order forms as well. Anyone have 4.56 written in? I'd like to see what this guy's order form has - surely one of the baddest lookin cars out there!

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Hey Motown ever see what happens when you take a stock Vega and put in a big block
Seen this many years ago down on front street in Philly this knuckle head https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif made one run and ended up on a flat bed Twisted the hell out of it. It was funny https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif to see this car after it made its one pass rocket run

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Marlin is that your Nova in the attachment?