1968 Z-28 what's it worth???? please help
 

I have a pretty good story about my 1968 Z-28. Back in July of 1984, I sold a VW “baja” and had some cash burning a hole in my pocket. In our local paper there was a 1968 Camaro advertised with a new 400 engine and 4 speed. I called and talked to a guy and he said it wasn’t anything special but it was pretty fast. A friend and I rode down to look in his dads 59 Impala convertible (348 tri power-4spd) and sure enough it was fast. The redneck that owned the car looked like someone out of a ZZ Top video. The car had Z-28 badges on the fenders only but no tach or gauges. We both agreed that it was not a Z because of this. It did have dual piston power disc brakes and a Muncie 4 spd with 12 bolt. I drove the car a few months and went to a local cruise in and met a camaro junkie there who said that it did not have to have these options to be legit. This was 1984 and South Carolina would do a title search on the phone and disclose the previous owners, which they no longer do. I received the name of the first owner, called him and said it was 1 of 3 sons and gave me their ###’s it was the 2nd brother and yes it was a Z-28 bought new @ Central Chevrolet in Columbia SC. I sold the car a few ears later and thought I was the man getting $3500 for the car. Fast forward to about 1995. Wanted to find the car so I ran a few ads in some newspapers to the effect of “previous owner in search of 1968 Z-28 lemans blue w/blue interior.2dys later I got a call telling where it was at. Went to look and the owner told me $12,500 would buy the car. Well like a dummy I walked but have kept in touch with Dennis Osteen (the owner) Today I called him and offered what I think is a very generous offer for the car.. I’m curious what it’s worth. A quick description is as follows: wrong engine-327 that looks correct- m-21 Muncie non matching##- I believe the correct rear but not sure. On a 1-10 I would call it a very nice 8 or very nice driver. The car is very solid no hit car original sheet metal with the exception of patch panels on the drivers side only. The car is not detailed underneath just spray bombed black the interior is very nice original and it does have 15x6 rallies but I don’t think they are correct. Pleas respond with some type range on it’s value. I know you can’t say without looking but hopefully you can give me some idea on it’s value.

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To guesstimate a cars value from a picture or pictures on the internet is difficult enough, to do it with no pictures at all is just about impossible IMO...

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To guesstimate a cars value from a picture or pictures on the internet is difficult enough, to do it with no pictures at all is just about impossible IMO...

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I realize this but can you give me a very wide range based on what info I've given??? best or worst case scenarios??

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Without the factory motor/trans its not a Z28 - just another modified 68 Camaro.

A car is only worth what a potential buyer will pay you on any given day.

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Without the factory motor/trans its not a Z28 - just another modified 68 Camaro.

A car is only worth what a potential buyer will pay you on any given day.

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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif I beg to differ, a Z28 is still a Z28, even if it doesnt have the original engine, as it was a specific Camaro model, not just an engine/trans option. Not worth nearly as much, but you can't say its no longer a Z28 simply because the driveline is no longer original. While i won't make any guesses on its value without so much as a photo to go on, you can;t say its not a Z.

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Without the factory motor/trans its not a Z28 - just another modified 68 Camaro.

A car is only worth what a potential buyer will pay you on any given day.

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So every car on the Yenko or ZL-1 list without it's original drivetrain should no longer be considered as such ??

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Please fillout your profile before we sik Belair Bob on ya!

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DONE.

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I beg to differ, a Z28 is still a Z28, even if it doesnt have the original engine, as it was a specific Camaro model, not just an engine/trans option
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Actually Z/28 was not a model, it was an option or so I've been led to believe anyway. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

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RPO Z28 was a performance option, all it got you was a 302/290HP engine in a coupe. Everything else (4 speed muncie, 12 bolt axle, power disc brakes, 15" wheels etc were mandatory and extra priced options.

So technically a Z28 without a 302 is not a Z28 anymore, but I doubt anyone will be selling one for the price of a rolling body anytime soon.

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If there is very little to no rust I would pay between $10,500.00 to $16,500 for an original looking with good paint and running Z/28 without matching numbers on the motor and transmission. Hopefully you still have some of the information on the title search to help verify that it is a real Z/28. You did not mention it but I am going to assume that the car is the orginal color and the interior is in good shape. I would pay a premium for a car that means something extra to me as it looks like this car is special to you. Remember even if you pay more than you think you should for a car that is in very good condition, you are generally ahead of the game over the long run. Take advantage of the situation and build a CE code replacment 302 motor with a crossram or a single holly and cowl plenum air cleaner, reproduction factory style headers, a rock crusher M-22 and a set of 5-spokes. I hope this information helps.
Mark Sheppard

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I would stepup above Mark and say 15-20K. A Z is always a Z, especially if you can get a statement from the original owner.


Jason

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Thanks for the input. I can generate 1968 era pics and a few other goodies. I can still locate the original owner since they lived in Elgin SC which is a very small town. I'll drive down there and visit the original owner. Bet he'll s___ when I pull up in the car. Anyway I'm going Wednesday night to hopefully buy the car. I'm not ashamed to admit to saying I've offered 25K for the car, here again a lot of memories in the car. Either way I'll take pics and post up this week. I really think I've offered about 5K more than it would bring on E-bay(i've been watching a few)
all I can do is take a stack of $$$$ and see if he ready to sell.

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Hey Mark, I guess you would pay 10,500 to 16,500 for that Z. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/shocked.gif I am coming out West if I can get those deals! Got an extra bed? Sam https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Sam,

I'm out west too. We can all dream can't we?


Jason

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Stop it! You left coast guys are killin me! You blowflys want everything!https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/headbang.gif

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Give us a break Sam. I've been buying your rust buckets and tossing them on the rotissorie! There are still a few rare rust free ones hiding out here too though! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif


Jason

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I haven't seen anyone discuss how much the potential documentation will ad to the value of this vehicle. 68's, more so than 67 and 69 because they can't be verified by the trim tag (assuming original trim tags). Even without the original engine, still worth much more to a lot of guys. More and more as the "original drivetrain" cars are drying up, buyers are becoming much more forgiving about replacement motors.

If he gets this car for 25k, and if he can run down some documentation, although on the high end, still not out of line. Of course he also has the sentimental value.

Just my 02 cents.

Lynn

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Ok, so I was a little low in my estimate. If it takes $25,000 to buy the car and you have good memories of the car then I stand corrected. The one thing I know for sure is if you think you paid too much for the car this year. I am sure that this time next year you will find out it was a pretty good deal. I can think of about 5 cars that I have owned in the past that I would pay well over the going price to get one of them back. I can also think of about 10 cars that I hope I never see again.
Mark Sheppard

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I think Lynn has hit on the issue that would make the car more selling friendly.
A 1968 Camaro, no matter what the model and make is very difficult to verify without some sort of documentation. As stated a million times, the trim tag tells you nothing. When it comes to documentation, I am not talking about an original owner written statement either. I can get my next door neighbor who doesn't know a Camaro from a Yugo to write a verification letter and no one who be the wiser.

Without the original drivetrain to match the car and without a buildsheet, windowsticker, POP, etc., I would consider the car another small block with 4 speed 1968 Camaro and nothing more.

Just my $.02 which by todays economy ain't worth squat!

Rick H.

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Here's a pic of my 68 Z/28 I sold in 74 and a good friend of mine owns it today.

http://ca.geocities.com/[email protected]/68_LF.jpg

http://ca.geocities.com/[email protected]/68_rear.jpg

http://ca.geocities.com/[email protected]/68_eng.jpg

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I've heard rumors of documentation for all GM cars sold here,similar to what is available for the Canadian cars. When this becomes a reality in the states it will help legit cars and really hurt the "clone" cars that have been passed off as matching ## LS-6 or ???
just my 02 cents this WILL BE available in the near future

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I've heard rumors of documentation for all GM cars sold here,similar to what is available for the Canadian cars. When this becomes a reality in the states it will help legit cars and really hurt the "clone" cars that have been passed off as matching ## LS-6 or ???
just my 02 cents this WILL BE available in the near future

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Don't count it and don't believe everything you hear. Documentation for U.S. cars will not happen.

Rick H.

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"Don't count it and don't believe everything you hear. Documentation for U.S. cars will not happen.

Rick H."

And you know this because you looked through all the GM files personally ?

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I can get my next door neighbor who doesn't know a Camaro from a Yugo to write a verification letter and no one who be the wiser.


Rick H.

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Remind me not to do business with your next door neighbor.

As far as docs from GM. While I wish it would happen (boy, would this result in some serious a$$ whippings for some of the guys who have sold bogus cars with bogus tags and bogus engines!!!) I seriously doubt it.
Still, it doens't hurt to hope.

As far as what it is worth, still a wide variety of opinions, but there are plenty of guys out there willing to pay for a "real" first gen Z even without the original engine, so even if it isn't worth it to you, that doesn't mean there isn't a buyer out there. I wasn't trying to "correct" anyone, just trying to look at the big picture.

Lynn

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I don't think you have to look through all the files personally. I think Rick H. and where he works may be a little closer to this story than most of us. At least me. I have heard about Docs for some time now. If the docs exist.....bring em on! Whats the hold up! When and if the Yenkos and COPO's come back down to where they should be (price wise), then no one will care about Docs anymore. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif

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Charley,

Have you seen them??

Rick H.


p.s. I bet I can answer that question.

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Lynn,
I agree about guys wanting a first gen and willing to pay the money to get them but there are certain years such as the 1968 Camaro that is very difficult to verify without supporting documentation. Especially one without the original drivetrain.

I know of one 1967 Camaro Z/28 that recently sold for $75,000 US and it did not have the original motor. Difference being that that the car could be verified. So there are people willing to pay for the right car whether correct or not.

Boy, would the pucker rise by a factor of a thousand if they ever released the docs. I am not holding my breath because I just don't see it happening.

Rick H.

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Lynn,
Boy, would the pucker rise by a factor of a thousand if they ever released the docs. I am not holding my breath because I just don't see it happening.

Rick H.

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"Ain't it the truth. Ain't it the truth."

Cowardly Lion

Didn't someone on here tell a story about a "fake trim tag seller" who got punched out by a dissatisfied customer at Vettefest (or some car show)? Seems the customer's car was docked points for an "aftermarket" tag, even though the seller "guaranteed" it to be undetectable. Yeah, boy!!!!

Lynn

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Boy, would the pucker rise by a factor of a thousand if they ever released the docs. I am not holding my breath because I just don't see it happening.

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It would probably result in an all-out war in the '63-'69 Corvette world, or at least an avalanche of litigation.

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It would probably result in an all-out war in the '63-'69 Corvette world, or at least an avalanche of litigation.

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Good point and I am willing to bet there a people in high places doing whatever is possible to keep that from happening.

I would also hope someone would give me a days notice so I could buy stock in eBay.

Can you imagine the amount of cars that would suddenly jump to the auction block. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif

Rick H.

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I'm just in from paying a bit to much for the car. Had it not been my 1st Camaro, 1st car I actually bought I would not have paid up for the car. It's a very very nice car, super solid body, paint etc. I'll try to find the build sheet as I don't think the tank has been out of the car. I do know it's real and anyone on here is welcome to come by and look for themselves. The Chevy dealer is still in business but who knows if they still have any records???
Will download pics tomorrow for everyone to check it out

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It's hard to put a price on sentimental things so you probably got a good deal since it serves 2 purposes for you. And if the current trend continues, the market will climb past your price. Personally, I would get some pictures of the car with the original owner and have him sign some form of "verification" you type up saying he bought it new and it's a real Z28. It can't hurt the value, that's for sure. I bet when you show the original owner the car he will love it! This is what the hobby is all about. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Often times, paperwork is worth more than the car. With rare options, paperwork is certainly more important than the original engine.

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Pics of the Z28

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