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Belair62 09-29-2005 03:03 AM

NJ Steves Project Pit Viper...
 
The story all began back in 1992 when I was a Tech Editor and Managing Editor for Mopar Muscle Magazine and Musclecar Review. We wanted to do something interesting and unique, something that no other magazine had ever done. So we approached the people at Dodge/Team Viper and raised the idea of a Viper as a magazine project car. At the time, Team Viper was made up of a bunch of young rebels and upstarts and was happy to see that someone wanted to play with their baby, instead of parking it and speculating on how high the price would go. We told them we were going to test the car out and then work with the aftermarket to see if we could make the car better. Surprisingly, they agreed (though they wouldn’t give us a free car) and I ended up placing an order (with my own money at a “good price”) in 1992. Somehow through the miracles of Mother Mopar's intervention, the car was scheduled to be built in January of 1993. I got a call in Jan 1993 and we firmed up the date so I could be on the assembly line as it was being built. I flew up to Detroit and was able to photograph the car in mid-assembly. This was something of a coup at the time because before then, no cameras were ever allowed in that secret hallowed hall known as the New Mack Viper Assembly Plant.

It was just what you could imagine if you went back in a time machine to the 1969 Norwood Plant as the COPOs and ZL1’s were being built. Just amazing. I have an entire album of slides of the plant. I made sure I took a bunch of shots of just the bins of parts and part numbers of the various components awaiting assembly, for future reference. As my car was moving down the line, the craftspeople were busily working away. I stopped them as they were building my car for a group shot which I guess interrupted one of the guy’s concentration who was working on the trunk of my car: Because a few weeks later when I took delivery of the car, his Snap On ¼ drive wrench and socket were still in my trunk. I called the plant to see if they wanted it back but they told me to hang on to it as a memento!

Previously, we had met with the Dodge people and told them that we wanted to have the car in the Viper Blue and White paint scheme of the Viper Coupe show car. They indicated that there was no way to get that done, simply due to the fact that all the panels came into the plant as prepainted red assemblies. I then asked them if they could supply me with the paint codes for the blue and the white colors. They said there were proprietary formulas and could not be released to the public, but then in the same breath they said “We can’t send you the paint codes, but we can send you all of the paint!” And there began a constant stream of unmarked UPS boxes that would show up every few days. Cans of paint, extra wheels, tires, exhaust parts, etc., would show up with mysterious return addresses like “Jeep Engineering Division”. The most surprising part was the complete set of fluorescent blue emblems for the car: blue emblems had not existed up to that point since all the cars were red.

The car was delivered to us in red. That lasted exactly 12 hours. We photographed the “before” shots and then totally disassembled the body for repainting it in the factory blue and white. Once the car was all painted and reassembled we started having fun. The car was featured in each issue from August 1993 to May 1995. Each issue had us working with some manufacturer and modifying something and then testing the car. A great deal of testing was done at the Sebring International Raceway in Sebring Florida. I would run the car in the SCCA ASP class (A-Street Prepared). Despite its weight (3700 lbs without a driver) it was remarkably competitive and I won quite a few races over the two years I ran the car. I even held a lap record at Sebring for the ASP class in 1994.

I have some great video from back then from the in-car video mount. The best footage was from a track day back in 1993 when I passed both a Ferrari 288 GTO and an F40 during the same lap. I was a lot younger then…Those were the good old days when the only thought in your head at the end of the 150 mph short straight into the 25 mph hair-pin turn is: where do I need to be to set up for the next turn (and not; is my life insurance paid up, do I have a will, or even clean underwear…)

Project Pit Viper is still one of the most terrifying cars I have ever driven. The weight distribution is dead on at 50/50. The early (pre-1996) cars had an unforgiving race suspension: if you didn’t know what you were doing or how to handle the car, you were an accident waiting to happen (or worse). We chassis dyno-ed the car and learned it put out 402 horsepower at the rear wheels. (If you may recall these cars were rated at an advertised 400 engine horsepower back in 93!).

In late 1994 I left the automotive publishing arena for other ventures but I kept the car. It now has about 7900 Sunday (racing) only miles. It now sits, covered, in the middle of my garage and serves as a workbench for my other projects. I start it every few months and take it out for a very scary trip back in time. My kids love it just cuz it’s really, really loud!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...20Viper/b9.jpg
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Xplantdad 09-29-2005 03:03 AM

Re: NJ Steves Project Pit Viper...
 
Awesome Steve! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

I like the part of the story about the socket still in the car when it was delivered to you. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif

I always enjoy your works in progress pictures...they are very informative.

Please find somebody to host your video...I'd love to see it!

Thanks for sharing the pictures and the story. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif



Z-11 396 09-29-2005 03:27 AM

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Steve, <<< Great Car >>>> and story, I know what you mean about getting older part.....Thanks for the wonderful pictures, and sharing the past, and more of /// Furture Plans ///... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif.......Kasey

njsteve 09-29-2005 04:47 AM

Re: NJ Steves Project Pit Viper...
 
Here's a shot on the assembly line of my car VIN #102, being built in Jan 1993. The guy with the mustache is the one that left the wrench in the trunk. I know the photo is kind of dark, but it was scanned from a slide and the lighting was really weird there: mercury gas vapor lights from what I was told.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../vipbuild1.jpg

mockingbird812 09-29-2005 06:42 PM

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Great story Steve. Way to document it x100! Thanks for sharing your wicked ride. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif

Chevy454 09-29-2005 06:51 PM

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That's too cool the way Mopar back-doored some of the stuff to ya! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

njsteve 01-20-2013 05:44 PM

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It's been a while that this car has been serving as my workbench in the garage. I decided to do a mid-winter engine startup on everything in the garage today.

I reconnected the battery and nothing happened. I checked the voltage and the battery had 2 volts. Hmmmmm? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif[/img]

I swear I had just bought this battery before I put the car into storage. I checked the date. July 2006 on the battery. Has it really been 6-1/2 years since I last drove this thing?

Well, I charged the battery and hooked a set of jumper cables up to my truck and she started right up. (Every year I drain the fuel and replace it with 21 gallons of new gas with Stabil in it, so the gas was fresh).

I let her run, in gear, up on the jackstands for a half hour. I filled the tires with air and then took her down off the stands and went for a drive. I forgot how unconfortable and scary these things are. It'll do 60 in first gear!

My pre-teen, engine-building son finally got to see the car actually out from under the cover and was rather amazed. The last time he saw the car, he was in nursury school.

https://www.yenko.net/attachments/use...3-p1000104.jpg

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When I got back, I swept out the entire garage and backed her in, put her back up on the stands and covered her up. Just think, in another 5 years I can get those (25+ year old) vintage license plates for her!

KevinW 01-20-2013 10:35 PM

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Nice! Its the first time I have seen it uncovered too! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/laugh.gif[/img]

KevinW 01-20-2013 10:35 PM

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Still registered in FLA?

njsteve 01-20-2013 10:52 PM

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Those are the original vanity plates from back in the day. I have Jersey plates somewhere buried in the garage.

The Boss 01-20-2013 11:07 PM

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Damn! Some guys have all the fun! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif[/img]

firstgenaddict 01-21-2013 09:45 PM

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The tags are personalized as WRKBNCH? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif[/img]
I have heard tales and stories that it existed and knew sooner or later the &quot;workbench&quot; would have it's day in the sun... .

markinnaples 01-23-2013 02:34 PM

Re: NJ Steves Project Pit Viper...
 
My brother's best friend traded his old Cuda for a Viper coupe with twin turbos.

That thing is extremely scary and will crush most sportbikes.

They have a video of it doing 170 when he got scared and lifted on Youtube. Whew.

firstgenaddict 01-27-2013 12:46 AM

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I have some great video from back then from the in-car video mount. The best footage was from a track day back in 1993 when I passed both a Ferrari 288 GTO and an F40 during the same lap. I was a lot younger then…Those were the good old days when the only thought in your head at the end of the 150 mph short straight into the 25 mph hair-pin turn is: where do I need to be to set up for the next turn (and not; is my life insurance paid up, do I have a will, or even clean underwear…)

That's some healthy competition with some purpose built Italian supercars...

njsteve 05-11-2014 08:54 PM

Re: NJ Steves Project Pit Viper...
 
The boy has been wanting to work on something as a project so I decided to finally get the Viper down off the jackstands today. It's nice to see that he is actually interested in cars - and he got it more from playing those crazy, auto-related Xbox games all these years, than from my hobby.

So we got the thing started - of course the battery that I thought was brand new didn't work...well it was brand new back in 2006 and is now bulging and wont hold any charge. So it's time to get a new battery.

We did take her out for a spin. He was all smiles.

He has never taken a ride in the car in all the years it's been here - and he's a teenager now! I stopped racing it when his older sister was born in '95.

So I guess this qualifies as his first &quot;barn find.&quot; [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...9-p1030117.jpg

njsteve 06-26-2016 08:55 PM

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I spent the day cleaning the garage, starting the cars and moving them all out. The Grampa's car (1971 Lincoln), the Gramma's car (1975 Firebird), and the Viper. Hooked the battery cable up at the junction box and the Viper started right up! Amazing. Haven't driven it in over year.

Me and the boy then took the car out for a ride and to return the truck jack stands I borrowed from my buddy. I was using them under the SD455 to get the bottom cleaned. It took me ten minutes to get the four jackstands wrapped up in towels and into the trunk. It was like playing a three dimensional game of Tetris. That is one small trunk!

I forgot how angry, loud and obnoxious this car is to drive. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif[/img]

We went out and stopped for some Italian ice. (no cupholders) Then we cruised around a little and drove through Dodge dealership where they had a brand new (but unsold) 2015 black and silver Viper sitting on the lot. Marked down from $109,999 to only $99,999. What a bargain! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif[/img] They announced that they are killing off the Viper next year in 2017. Who knows what they will do in the future for a halo car, since the Heck-Kitty outpowers the V10 by 70 horses or so.

While dropping the jackstands off at my buddy's garage a guy pulls in and asks if I want to sell the Viper. My son yells &quot;HELL NO, IT'S MINE&quot;

That made me quite proud. He's officially a car-guy now.

He gets his learner's permit this Fall. I told him he has to learn how to drive a manual transmission first - luckily our 2001 Trans Am has the same T56 transmission.

Be afraid...be very afraid. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/no.gif[/img]

markinnaples 06-26-2016 10:07 PM

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Way to raise him.

njsteve 06-26-2016 10:11 PM

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We went to the cruise night last night in Gramma's car. There were six Hellcats there in all different colors. There was even a Plum Crazy one there that I was lusting after. I told the boy he can buy me one of those when he gets rich if he doesn't have enough money to get me that 2006 Ford GT Heritage Edition.

Xplantdad 06-27-2016 01:36 AM

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Good for you Steve...keeping the kids involved [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]

JRC99 06-27-2016 05:49 PM

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Oh, I love that color. If I ever paint my Dakota, that's the color I'm going with.

njsteve 07-02-2016 12:30 AM

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This is a funny craigslist ad that has gone viral on a guy selling his Viper because he vbelieved it was trying to kill him:

http://oppositelock.kinja.com/most-h...ver-1782809075

markinnaples 07-02-2016 01:38 AM

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I saw that, and the comments are almost as good as the ad.

Lynn 07-03-2016 02:21 PM

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Personally, I like this car ad. Sorry to go even farther off topic.




njsteve 07-03-2016 08:59 PM

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LOL. It's a Pontiac, so it's all good!


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