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jfkheat 01-21-2006 05:49 AM

$200K 1969 Z-28
 
An 11,000 mile Z-28 just sold for $205,000. This is crazy.
James

DarrenX33 01-21-2006 05:49 AM

Re: $200K 1969 Z-28
 
Notice the rif-raff around the bidder. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

Wish I could have seen this car in person. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

MosportGreen66 01-21-2006 05:52 AM

Re: $200K 1969 Z-28
 
Charley was on screen the entire time with the new owner.
I find it tough to believe that car has NEVER been fluffed.
CLill, shead some light on the "fluff" factor of this Z28.

I am bringing my survivor Z28 to B/J next year... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

MosportGreen66 01-21-2006 05:53 AM

Re: $200K 1969 Z-28
 
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Wish I could have seen this car in person. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

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I'm right there with you Darren!

DarrenX33 01-21-2006 05:57 AM

Re: $200K 1969 Z-28
 
Kenny P was right there to with Charley. I'm sure he has some good input as well.

MosportGreen66 01-21-2006 06:01 AM

Re: $200K 1969 Z-28
 
Daytona/Black/Black '69 Z28 w/ X-ram @ $100,000 even.
Could potentially be a nice buy for the money!

bashton 01-21-2006 06:23 AM

Re: $200K 1969 Z-28
 
And it was Green! A beautiful piece of Camaro history indeed...but it was green!

MosportGreen66 01-21-2006 06:24 AM

Re: $200K 1969 Z-28
 
Bashton... that was my pun. My Z28 is a 35K original mile car, fathom green/light medium green.

DarrenX33 01-21-2006 06:42 AM

Re: $200K 1969 Z-28
 
Green stinks.

WILMASBOYL78 01-21-2006 07:19 AM

Re: $200K 1969 Z-28
 
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Green stinks.

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Except when you can fold it....

wilma https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

MrsBillyBobcat 01-21-2006 07:19 AM

Re: $200K 1969 Z-28
 
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Charley was on screen the entire time with the new owner.


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I missed that, but I did see him walking past the bidder during the Fantasy Bid for the Woody. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

Hi Bob! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif

Rita

Xplantdad 01-21-2006 07:22 AM

Re: $200K 1969 Z-28
 
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Charley was on screen the entire time with the new owner.


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I missed that, but I did see him walking past the bidder during the Fantasy Bid for the Woody. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

Hi Bob! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif

Rita

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Charleys getting a LOT of air time... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

MosportGreen66 01-21-2006 07:25 AM

Re: $200K 1969 Z-28
 
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Charley was on screen the entire time with the new owner.


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I missed that, but I did see him walking past the bidder during the Fantasy Bid for the Woody. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

Hi Bob! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif

Rita

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Charleys getting a LOT of air time... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Any shots of his new Camaro?
Get back to work Cousin Bruce https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif

Xplantdad 01-21-2006 07:29 AM

Re: $200K 1969 Z-28
 
I'll get 'em tomorrow...okay Dan? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

I'll have a new neighbor from this site, soon...I'll let HIM spill the beans. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif

MosportGreen66 01-21-2006 07:35 AM

Re: $200K 1969 Z-28
 
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I'll get 'em tomorrow...okay Dan? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

I'll have a new neighbor from this site, soon...I'll let HIM spill the beans. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif

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All in good fun Bruce!
Take your time buddy.

Charley Lillard 01-21-2006 10:35 AM

Re: $200K 1969 Z-28
 
The green Z was not fluffed. There was some wrong stoff from mainly maintainance over the years. Master cylinder was wrong, heat shield under carb etc. The Z and the Chevelle were put in storage in about 1980.

DarrenX33 01-21-2006 04:45 PM

Re: $200K 1969 Z-28
 
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Except when you can fold it....

wilma

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Now I will drink to that. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif

Z-11 396 01-21-2006 05:25 PM

Re: $200K 1969 Z-28
 
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. The Z and the Chevelle were put in storage in about 1980.

[/ QUOTE ] <<< CHARLEY >>> IS IT GOOD TO STORE CARS FOR THAT LONG A TIME https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif,IT MUST TAKE ALOT OF SPECIAL TREATMENT TO SET UP A CAR FOR THAT LONG OF PERIOD. SEEMS TO ME THAT YOU STILL GET DRY-ROT, AND HAVE TO CHANGE OUT STUFF.....KASEY

SamLBInj 01-22-2006 11:02 PM

Re: $200K 1969 Z-28
 
Ive been dealing with some medical problems with my Dad so Ive been out of the loop here for about a month...Interesting to hear a low mile Z got 200K...Where would that put my 100 percent original black JL-8 with less mileage? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif

Xplantdad 01-22-2006 11:04 PM

Re: $200K 1969 Z-28
 
Hey Sam, welcome back https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Hope all is well with your dad now!

427TJ 01-22-2006 11:05 PM

Re: $200K 1969 Z-28
 
Probably somewhere in between KA-CHING and CHA-CHING.

I have long-since said farewell to my dream of owning a '69 Z (snif, snif). Well, I could always put the farm in hock...

SamLBInj 01-22-2006 11:08 PM

Re: $200K 1969 Z-28
 
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Hey Sam, welcome back https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Hope all is well with your dad now!

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Thanks, Still dealing with it and one more operation this week to fix the screw-ups they did the last 3 times..He's 79 and outworks everyone in my company but this is really taking the starch out of him..

KENNY_PASCOE 01-23-2006 05:14 AM

Re: $200K 1969 Z-28
 
I HAD NUMEROUS PEOPLE ASK ALL WEEKEND IF THIS WAS MY OLD CAR. MY CAR HAD 18K MILES AND WAS A VERY UNMOLESTED CAR. THE 11K MILE CAR HAD ITS SHARE OF ISSUES AS MOST HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED HERE ON THIS BOARD.I COULD ADD TO THE LIST BUT I'M NOT ONE TO THROW STONES. A GOOD ORIGINAL CAR? YES. WORTH $205K? WELL TO SOMEONE IT WAS. AS CHARLEY ADDED EARLIER IN THIS POST, THE NEW BUYER KNOWS WHAT HES DOING. JUST MY .02 CENTS... KP https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif

Jerry@CHP 01-24-2006 12:59 AM

Re: $200K 1969 Z-28
 
Larry Christensen and I looked this car over pretty closely and here's what we came up with. Here's a list of stuff that was not right so all of you can decide for yourself. I did not like the worn pedal pads. A low mileage car would have pristine pedal pads. This was not a cowl hood car either but yet one was installed? Speedo cable plug was knocked out for wires to run through this hole, There were signs of paint work and clear coating too. Have at it guys, here's the list of issues.

Jerry
1. pedal pads worn
2. spiral shocks missing
3. walker replacement exhaust system
4. 3/4" holes in the core support for hood pins
5. cowl hood was installed, it's not a cowl hood car
6. none of the OEM cowl hardware is there.
7. repro air cleaner with chrome lid
8. intake has been off and there are flat washers under the intake bolts
9. 68 Z28 style smog pump with pressure relief valve
10. smog hoses were replaced with regular hose and non factory stampings
11. water pump replaced
12. master cylinder replaced
13. engine lift hooks and vacuum advance hose clip missing
14. GM glass washer bottle on the fender well
15. black replacement grille that was painted silver
16. has 1970 repro style Firestone F70x15" tires.

af1fe 01-24-2006 01:12 AM

Re: $200K 1969 Z-28
 
This is exactly what I was talking about! Alot of smoke and mirrors out at BJ. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

Jerry@CHP 01-24-2006 01:16 AM

Re: $200K 1969 Z-28
 
Just thought about something else, I suspect that the Brandenburg Z28 in the front of my book with probably be worth in the $400-500,000.00 range now. That car has 22K on the odometer and has no issues with changed or replaced parts. Still sports it's original flat hood too.

Jerry

Kim_Howie 01-24-2006 01:33 AM

Re: $200K 1969 Z-28
 
Jerry,I think we need to bring "Litte Hoss" out and have match race at the reunion this year!!!!! Kim https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

Jerry@CHP 01-24-2006 01:47 AM

Re: $200K 1969 Z-28
 
Kim,

Yes we do! I am glad I'm retiring the Stickler Z28 after this season. By the trends I am seeing the money being thrown at these cars is off the charts. It makes me wonder if I could retire with a sale of the Old Reliable Z28? I am building a new 67 Z28 for Stock Eliminator and it will be fun to run a car under my own identity.

Jerry

Kim_Howie 01-24-2006 02:05 AM

Re: $200K 1969 Z-28
 
Sounds good !! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

RamAirDave 01-24-2006 10:48 AM

Re: $200K 1969 Z-28
 
So if that green 11K mile Z brought $205K, where would that put the 1800 mile black, stripe delete RS Z?

dave

Mr70 01-24-2006 06:15 PM

Re: $200K 1969 Z-28
 
In my garage if I could..

Hylton 01-24-2006 06:29 PM

Re: $200K 1969 Z-28
 
I'd be surprised if anyone can pull that car away from Maksym.

Late BrakeU2 01-24-2006 07:24 PM

Re: $200K 1969 Z-28
 
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So if that green 11K mile Z brought $205K, where would that put the 1800 mile black, stripe delete RS Z?

dave

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In a setting like BJ with Liquid bidders outrageous is a relative term.Makes you wonder what the Estes car would command there..

Charley Lillard 01-25-2006 09:17 AM

Re: $200K 1969 Z-28
 
Anyone thinking they can match the price this Z28 got just needs to step up to the plate and sell their car at no reserve. Any takers ? Think Richard Maksym will put his up at no reserve ? I don't have the balls to let my prized posession go at no reserve. This is about taking chances. Is Jerry going to put Old reliable up at no reserve and let us scrutinize it very closely ? Will he put his Z28 up at no reserve ? This green Z28 took a chance and hit a home run. Most of what Jerry listed wrong with the car appears related to adding a cowl hood and maintainance. Jerry's car also has had a cowl hood added and paint work done. No big deal.

Jeff H 01-25-2006 05:08 PM

Re: $200K 1969 Z-28
 
It seems to be more of an issue about the car being a low mileage(11,000 miles isn't really that low) and untitled car. It obviously isn't an untouched car so that leaves people wondering why it sold for $205K. We could guess and speculate all day, but this situation won't happen again so why bother. I know of a lower mileage 69 Z28 in my area. I'm not gonna tell the guy his car is now worth $205K just because one sold for that at BJ. His car is title in his father's name(the original owner) so it can't be compared to this dealer car. Just imagine what this dealer car would have gone for if it was truly untouched and untitled! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/shocked.gif

Lynn 01-25-2006 06:09 PM

Re: $200K 1969 Z-28
 
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We could guess and speculate all day, but this situation won't happen again so why bother. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/shocked.gif

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Jeff:

YOu may be right, but I remember thinking this market peaked out when John Berry's 5,000 mile white Z/28 sold for $29,500 a few years ago. Car is featured in Jerry's book.

Then it showed up for sale a few months later in Hemmings with an asking price of $39,000, and I thought, well surely this is the peak, assuming the seller got something close to that.

Now look. Also must consider that if bidding reached $205k, there had to be at least one other individual willing to pay about $200k, or the bidding wouldn't have gotten where it is.

Charley makes a good point. Hard to hit a home run without taking the risk of striking out.

Lynn

DarrenX33 01-25-2006 06:25 PM

Re: $200K 1969 Z-28
 
I recently had this discussion with another member. I remember when I went to Volo to have my Z/28 appraised at $16,900. Perhaps foolish but at the time I never imagined that the car would be worth double. And considering how many were produced. Now its triple. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

I have learned to never say never...

Mr70 01-25-2006 07:05 PM

Re: $200K 1969 Z-28
 
I do like the 1969 Z/28.
But I do not understand those that say it was a rare or low production option?
There was a delay in the production of the new 1970 Camaro bodystyle,so they had to build the 1969 Camaro bodystyle longer then anyother,almost 6 months longer,all the way to February 1970.
They built 206,837 8CYL 1969 Camaros of which 190,971 were Hardtops.
20,302 of those were built with the Z/28 option.
That's the highest Z/28 optioned production between the years 1967-1972.

<u>Z/28 Totals:</u>
*1967-602
*1968-7199
*1969-20,302
*1970-8733
*1971-4862
*1972-2575
That year doesn't seem like a low production year to me? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

SamLBInj 01-25-2006 08:26 PM

Re: $200K 1969 Z-28
 
Out of those 20 thousand there are still over 75 thousand on the road and another 50 thousand on ebay for sale https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

DarrenX33 01-25-2006 08:30 PM

Re: $200K 1969 Z-28
 
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But I do not understand those that say it was a rare or low production option?


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Who said that?


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