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427/4 speed bench seat 68 Pontiac Strato Chief's?
A fellow I worked with used to work for Sinclair Pontiac in London Ontario in the late 60's. He recounted to me that back in 68 Sinclair ordered 7 or 8 427/4speed bench seat Strato Chief's(these were the lightweight Pontiac Sedan) in response to Central Chev's 427 Biscaynes they were ordering and racing at St.Thomas. Not sure if they were 425hp cars. He showed me a picture of one of them that he bought back then (no longer owns). Two questions: Could these be COPO cars? That seems like an awful lot of cars to order unless GM of Canada specified a minimum order. Does anyone know any more about these cars? Any survivors? I'd love to see one of these monsters.
Also, has anyone ever heard of a 427/4speed 69 Strato Chief? Todd |
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I've only seen one 69 427 Strato Chief, and that was in 69 or 70. It was a black 4 door unmarked police car with an automatic, and had a wicked idle to it. It was parked on the street a block from my house in Vancouver, and the 427 emblems caught my eye. While I was looking at it, the cop returned and got in. I asked him a few questions about it, but not if it was a 425 hp car. He said he was with the freeway patrol in Burnaby. It was pretty loud and, as I said, had a wicked idle.
I have been hunting for a big block Canadian Pontiac off and on for awhile. |
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Rare but yes they built these...and as an RPO, nothing Copo required! .
I love Chevy powered Canadian Ponchos, especially the big cars! . They even built W-motor Pontiac big cars and I've always been searching for my own dream...the 'possible built' late '61 409 Strato-Chief...'62's did happen! . https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif ~ Pete |
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Back in the '60s there was a '66 Parisienne convertible. It had the L72, 4 speed, and all the other good performance parts. Wasn't a match for my Ram Air Firebird https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif, but was pretty quick considering its size. That would be one rare beast.
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Finally able to register so this is my first post.I know of a '68 427 4spd Strato Chief.One of 5 built with L-36,Jade Gold
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Sorry if double post...seems the other went into the wind? .
Anyway, the car sounds very cool Mark...lay some pics on us if you can! . Nice user-name too although w/ a famous name like Hodges, well I'd expect a different brand?! . (Astro-Jets were the Canadian-Pontiac Mk1V Turbo-Jets...air cleaner stickers and all!) I think L36's were the highest HP 'advertised' 427's available in '66-'69 Canadian Ponchos but the L72's flew as an order (except in '67 of course) since they were really a Chevy chassis w/ Poncho clothes. . https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif ~ Pete |
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Keith, is that 68 in good shape? I'm partial to the 69s as my dad had a 350 Strato Chief 2dr hardtop. I'd love to find one with a big block- any 69 Canadian Pontiac!
Todd |
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There are a couple big block Beaumonts on this site but I don't know of any members with BBC Strato Chiefs or any other big Canadian Pontiac.
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Here's something cool...from the Wiinipeg Free Press-Monday, June 18. 1973
Second ad from the bottom http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...atochiefad.jpg |
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Wow! Very unique....Big Post cars rule!
Dan. |
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How do I post a picture?
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XPLANTDAD, where did you get the add from the Winnipeg Free Press??? I am from Winnipeg. I have never seen any strato chiefs around at all in Winnipeg. Although I'm only 24 so I wasn't around back in the day. 2qwik2c.
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XPLANTDAD, where did you get the add from the Winnipeg Free Press??? I am from Winnipeg. I have never seen any strato chiefs around at all in Winnipeg. Although I'm only 24 so I wasn't around back in the day. 2qwik2c. [/ QUOTE ] The internet... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif |
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There were a number of 427 Pontiacs here in London Ontario in the years 67 to 69. Even our local school bus carrier (Skinner Bus Lines)had a 69 427 black Safari Wagon. Attached is from an ad that was placed in the February 1969 Wheelspin News by The New Car Trade Centre on Bay Street in Toronto with 3 427 Pontiacs for sale. .........Bill
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Here's ad number 2 from Wheelspin News. ................Bill
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Here's ad number 3 from Wheelspin. ...........Bill
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Hey 2qwik2c,Find that car and we'll make a deal.
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Very cool. I'd love to see that wagon.
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thats interesting, a 67 with 427/425. if it was factory installed engine it would be rare. i have always thought L/72 was not offered in 1967 for U.S. cars. maybe it was in canada? dennis davis
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ASTROJET, I will keep my eyes open. I have never seen a chevy powered pontiac around here yet. But there are a lot of cars tucked away in garages around here that are never brought out. How many 67 427 Biscaynes have you guys heard of over the years out there in Ontario??? 2qwik2c.
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Here's a photo of a 67 Grand Prix with a 396. Sorry the engine isn't clear.I saw this car at the Three Hills cruise in this year. It had the Chev rally wheels with Pontiac centers on it.
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This car is for sale on Ebay right now. Will try and find it again for the item #. 2qwik2c.
Item # 140039569970 nice car. |
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That's a really nice car. Very straight, and a Grande Parisienne. My mistake.;P
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Man, there's some cool stuff out there! I'm glad I started this thread! I've also heard a rumour of a dentist who lives near London, Ontario who has a bunch of big block powered Canadian Pontiacs. Anyone here confirm?
There's a couple of 427 4 speed Biscaynes in this area- a green one owner unrestored 2dr sedan that shows up at the east London cruise night once in a while- I think it comes from Hamilton. There is also one from Dorchester, Ontario that shows up at local shows from time to time- both I believe are 425hp 427 cars.. Todd |
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Yes on the Dentist,also know of the car in Hamilton.Has a nasty gouge on trunk lid made by trailer back in the day
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Oh,the green one from Hamilton is not a L-72
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tstclr What year are these biscaynes???
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While we're on the subject of 427/425 Biscaynes, heres a shot of one of our local cars from 1966. The owner is Jack Hyde from Stratford Ontario and yes the car was green, hence the name.Jack just recently built a replica of this car. ............Bill
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I thought you guys might get a kick out of this. The ad from 1967 is for London Motor Products who were our local high performance Pontiac/Buick dealer here in London Ontario. As you can see, the Firebird was running right on the national record and if you look closely you'll notice the license plate on the front of the car. This bird was driven to and from the track!! Quite a difference from today's race cars. Also, you'll notice the line up for 67; Beaumont SD, Buick GS, Firebird, Pontiac 427 and Acadian SS. This was our Canadian high performance offering for Pontiac/Buick in 67. THE GOOD OLD DAYS. ...........Bill
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Ahhh, back in the day when Stock/Eliminator cars were still mostly stock!
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All right! Keep that cool stuff coming. Something tells me we need to see a certain dentist's collection.
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Bring it on...any more you can! .
All great this Canadian stuff...not just our beer is better!!! . Regarding the posting a few above, I've never known of any L72's available for '67 as a Chevy or Canadian Poncho...never say never though? . https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif ~ Pete |
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Wonder what ever became of the supposed 'real' Canadian L36/M21 Poncho at the end of this thread and if the clone or whatever it turned out to be ever happened? .
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/show...0/fpart/1/vc/1 Danger, beware of the rest of the thread content...my eyes and head are sore again just re-reading it again. . https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif ~ Pete |
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OK,the 2+2 you just mentioned is one of 10 built and is still around.As far as the Dentist,good luck with that.I turned him on to a '68 2+2 427-385,4spd convertible that I checked out a few yrs back.One of two built,Dave ended up buying,I NEVER EVEN GOT A THANK YOU!!We're still trying to figure out how I can post pictures.
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We tried this last time you put it up.Couldn't get it to work.
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Sweet! London really was a performance centre. It looks like all the dealers were in the game. Didn't Central Chev have a second location for their high performance offerings? I think a glass shop is there now. If anyone is from London, stop into the Cadillac Hummer dealer and talk to Doug. He lived that era and worked for Sinclair Pontiac at the time. He showed me some amazing photos from the day. So..it sounds like this dentist isn't the friendliest? Figures.. Another question-what was the highest HP 454 offered in the '70 full sized Canadian Pontiacs?
Someone needs to form a high performance Canadian Pontiac club online.. Todd |
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