Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 

Thanks to Paul Descender and Al Corporon for hauling parts home for me, and Danny T was ready to add to his NOS haul:-)

Much appreciated.

Ryan

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Lots of goodies:-)

Used 4 SS11's off El Malo (Thanks Bob D')
Used Lakewood bell housing, and cover
Used Lakewood clutch fork
Used Lakewood adjustable clutch fork stud
New Lakewood clutch fork boot (Thanks Woj and Grady)
Used SFI flywheel (Thanks Dave S)
New Center force throw out bearing and pilot bearing
New Master cylinder seal
New Throttle cable
My M22 fully rebuilt (Thanks Nick)
My Ram Rod Shifter fully rebuilt (Thanks Nick)
My Street Super Shifter fullly rebuilt (Thanks Nick)
Divider for behind my back seat (Thanks Bill S)
New Passenger mirror (Thanks Dave S)
14 X 6 Steel Wheel (Thanks Dave S)
27 spline slip yoke (Thanks Dave S)

This is the mother load of car parts:-) So many people helped my in many ways to move my project ahead, transporting parts, going shopping at summit, giving me a great deal on parts, a few people have straight up gave me parts:-) finding parts for me, you name it, the support is noticed and appreciated!

Ryan

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 

Very cool news!! Ryan!

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 

I spent an hour or more last night wire wheeling under the car, I am trying to clean the top of the inside of the drivers side rear wheel well:-( Swear?>*&^%$#@!

I have reached a decision point, the body cart we/Dad made was to support the body as we restored the frame has worked perfectly (frame is restored) but now I am trying to use it to access the underside of the car and it is not high enough.

I have taken many trips and the end is not in sight.

A great skill I have learned in my working career is to know when something is not working and before absolute frustration sets in, to make a change and steer back on track. (I am in the ditch and need to veer left)

(step 1) I decided last night my next step needs to be washing the body (so I don't scratch it with the plastic film), and masking off the outside of the car to protect it. (especially soon when I do small rust repairs)

(step 2) I will bring the engine hoist back to the igloo and raise the body and reconfigure the cart so I can easily sit on a chair and clean/paint the underside and complete the firewall from a standing position even up on a step.

(step 3) I will enlist some help for some more intense visits with more accomplishment. I have said many times I am terrified of this project stopping. The underside as far as I can tell will be the hardest portion of the chassis restoration and has the highest risk of becoming overwhelming/another project car sitting partially done with no progress for X months......

(step 4) Adjust my schedule, I will look at all the non underside items to complete and possibly push the body off to the side till spring and complete lots of other items that are more manageable and items that I can complete at home.

(Step 5) Consider taking my frame to the igloo and bringing the front clip home to work on....

Ryan

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 

(Step 1), where do you get these great idea`s from [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif[/img]

(step 2), Have help with you, do not attempt by yourself.

(step 3), Put on some Rolling Stones....LOUD and Get It DONE!

(step 4), Refer to Step 3

(step 5), Refer to Step 3....the sooner you complete the underside, the less stressed you will be....GET IT DONE! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Dan

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 

Ryan, let me know when it's time to do the heavy lifting. And if you decide to move the frame or the front clip I would be happy to stop over with the flatbed for another adventure...what about putting the body onto a rotisserie so you can work upright?

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 

I get stuck and I share my struggles here.... boom.....great suggestions and offer of help:-)

I will look for a used rotisserie, maybe buy it, use it, and sell it. (I have looked at this but was a little hesitant as the body and interior is all together)

I can only imagine how much easier it would be to fix a few body mount &quot;square encapsulated nuts&quot; and the small rust repairs at the bottom of the wheel wells. An extra day or two to get it twirling would easily save weeks of struggling.

I was looking at M22Mike and Grady's COPO resto and the floor was 100% accessible!!!

A change is needed as I want good results.

Ryan

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 

Ryan, don't kid yourself and compare your car and it's restoration to Grady's Camaro and the resto he and Mike performed. Nothing is similar other than they are 1969 model year cars that were restored. Mike has done more restorations than most of the hobbyist on this board. His results are equal to, or better than some high-end shops. And, Grady's car was a &quot;peach&quot; of a car! Reread the thread and his initial thoughts on the car.....CORROSION FREE!!! Don't expect the same results as that build.....it just isn't going to happen my friend! I'm not trying to pee on your parade, just trying to emphasize the basic facts of why that COPO looks the way it does, and why your &quot;W-31&quot; will be a different grade of car because of the two approaches. Think back to why you bought this car and why you are doing the work to it..........to have FUN!!! Have some FUN, do the BEST you can do with what you have to work with, and keep plugging away. The bottom side of every car is a PITA unless you have an awfully pampered car (very few are). Once that portion of the resto is finished, you'll move on to easier steps of the reconstruction. Eventually, you'll look back and laugh about how that undercoat was up your nose, in your eyes and ears, etc. Quitting is NOT AN OPTION. Like Dan keeps telling you.....just get it done!!!!

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Ryan
If you do buy a rotisserie new or used you should have little trouble selling it.
As far as the guts, it is not that hard to pull allot of the interior out, and leave the headliner if you want. It is a PITA to mask it off but it can be done. I did just that on Grady's.
Your floor pans will love you for it.... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]...now go slam back a few XXX's and think about it.
Mike

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 

Thanks Dave (I am pretty sure Grady isn't bringing his next car to me to restore:-)


&quot;I was looking at M22Mike and Grady's COPO resto and the floor was 100% accessible!!!&quot;

&quot;A change is needed as I want good results.&quot;


My goals are clear:

My car outwardly should look like a 47 year old car that was well taken care of.

The car should drive like a 47 year old car did when it was between new and five years old.

Under the car and under the hood should appear restored to a &quot;good&quot; level.

The interior should appear, smell, and feel like a well cared for 47 year old car.

Bottom Line:
The car will be able to be driven to Lansing Michigan for Homecoming without huge stress.

Ryan

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 

Mike.

The more I consider the rotisserie the more I am convinced it is the right path. Using a rotisserie doesn't mean my plan/path has changed just that it will be easier and the results will no doubt be better. (I want to mask off the car and overspray Glade Green on to the sides of the floor pans like the big kids)

Most of the interior can come out fairly easily, seats, door panels, headliner (original has holes and I have an SMS replacement) I don't really want to do this as the more the car stays together the better but I can do this......... What is the benefit?

Ryan

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Ryan
On or off a rotisserie getting the interior out, #1 protects it from all the debris, and #2 it would lighten it up if you do use a rotisserie.
On another note, when you get close to painting the floors, resist the urge to use filler on any pitted areas, to hard to sand ! After you are sealed up with epoxy primer go stright to some spray on polyester primer, builds qouck and sands like butter.

Mike

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 

Makes sense.

Thanks

Ryan

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 

Ryan if my 69 chevelle wasn't hanging from my rotisserie I'd send it your way for sure. On a side note I picked mine up dirt cheap on Craigslist but they don't show up very often.

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 

Thanks Mike,

A 1969 Chevelle owner (600 mile L78 Burnished Brown) from Ohio has offered his Auto Twirler. We are working on details.......

Ryan

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You are making the right decision Ryan. Its also good for people to challenge themselves regardless what others my say.. Regardless how it turns out hold your head high as you SHOULD be very proud (not cocky; which you are not) of your work.. In the end if you are happy then no one else matters. I think you are doing the car justice. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]

Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 

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Ryan,
Have you considered the Rotisseries currently on Kijiji?
Here's four below I see today, you're pretty central to all of them.
The first two are loose but others come w/ cars...worth offering less and flogging the project cars and/or parts to pay the way?
Best of luck whatever way you go!
[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]
~ Pete

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Hamilton ON - Used Rotisserie @ $750 OBO...
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-other/hamilt...gationFlag=true

Brantford ON - New Rotisserie @ $1350...
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-other-auto-parts-...gationFlag=true

Moorefield ON - 66 Impala project/parts + Used Rotisserie @ $2500 OBO...
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/kitc...gationFlag=true

St. Thomas ON...'65 Acadian Canso/parts + Used Rotisserie @ 4500 OBO...
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/mark...gationFlag=true

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 

Thanks Pete

I like the second one, but not looking to buy a car to get a rotisserie:-) Somebody very close to me would object:-)

Got a call tonight about one...

Ryan

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 

Car people are the nicest most generous people, we are a group I am proud to be part of.

Ohio guys are a special breed, and Steve Boggess is today's champion in my eyes:-) Steve offered to loan me his rotisserie so I can get my floors and firewall straightened away.

We chatted quick tonight and after the busy Christmas season I will make a visit to Ohio to pick up his twirler. I also hope to visit a few more friends while in the neighborhood, and also I have 1969 GM A Body 2 door post parts (Chevelle...don't tell) bought to pick up. (That is a dream vacation for me:-)

Steve, you reached out and I appreciate it!!!

Ryan

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 

Ryan, I'm still working on the details, but should have a rotisserie for you right here in town. We just need to get the Javelin
project pushed back. I will call you later.

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 

Holy smokes!!!

When it rains it pours, in a good way!!

Car guys always surprise me, Steve last night mentioned getting a car off his rotisserie so he can loan it to me and that he would lay on his back to wrap up that car....... I did not accept that by the way:-) I try to do crazy helpful things if at all possible to keep the Karma tank topped off and man does it come back around!!!

Ryan

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What goes around comes around as they say. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif[/img]

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 

Ryan best wishes from Boston MA
I wish I was close to you .
I could help you out.
I envoy reading about your
Restoration journey

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 

Thanks Rick:-)

Dave: you are invited, I used to think I was far away from all the fun (wrong) February is really nice in Ontario:-)

I hope the old saying &quot;it's the journey not the destination&quot; is true:-)

Ryan

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I am making plans to &quot;rollerise&quot; my frame.

I need to learn how to use my Evaporust so I can clean up the SS11's.

Then I will install the white wall radials.

Ryan

njsteve has many articles on this process, I need to find them and follow along:-)

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 

Here you go. Holy crap it's actually been 10 years ago this week that I posted that! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/eek.gif[/img]

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbt...opics/99416/26

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 

Thanks Steve

You must have shares in Evaporust:-)

Ryan

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 

I recalculated my schedule, it looks like my one drive around the block in 2017 won't happen but spring 2018 is attainable.

I have made good progress when the part of the car I am working on is at home, after we get the completed parts and future parts to the igloo and the body home I feel I will be able to move ahead more easily, and add the auto twirler to that........ those are two road blocks. (They must go away)

I have a moving month of January, and a floor pan month of February:-)

Ryan

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 

2,000,224 views :-)

I did the math, they are not all me:-)

Ryan

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If there was an award for Numerous Photography or Cinnamontography you and This thread would have won the Oscar, People's Choice, the Emmy and even the Tony AWARD [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/no.gif[/img]

Dan

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[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif[/img]

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I have a new suit for the awards ceremony:-)

Ryan

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 

Big news:-)

Like really big news...... MASCAR is on board:-)

Scott Tedro and Kenny Maisano have reached out to me with a generous offer of support to pull my future plans ahead of building a W31 engine right to the edge of the PSMCDR rules.

My MASCAR W31 and my Morocco Muncie will be married soon!!!!!

Ryan

Pictures, this thread is worthless without pictures:-)

Scott, Stefano (Nicky) and I:-)

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...14-scott_t.jpg

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 

Congrats, great news.

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 

----What a fantastic offer, Ryan!.....Bill S

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 

I am very excited about W31 V2.0 :-)

No need to compromise to make it street friendly:-)

Ryan

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 

----Ryan,,,I should have added that good things come to good people, and you are the definition of that!.......Bill S

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 

Wow! Great news indeed.....What about your other engine builder, are you stopping that build?

Dan

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 

Aw Shucks:-)

Thx.

Ryan

PS: Nick Morocco sent me a note, all the M22Z parts are ready and he will assemble now:-)

PPS: Reached out to Dave Siltman, he is checking &quot;in the back&quot; for some Olds parts, Stephen Minore parted with a virgin 68 350 2 barrel oil pan to valve covers with distributor to get this party started:-) (I have some duplicates for W31 V2.0 but my original heads are junk so might as well start with a STD core.

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Postsedan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wow! Great news indeed.....What about your other engine builder, are you stopping that build?

Dan </div></div>

This was discussed and considered but the engine build is moving along well and all the components are either on site or on order it makes sense to me to continue. This engine has a different purpose to run on pump gas and be fun on the street.

If I find a low cost Red Foreman (Vista) someday it will get the full W31 drivetrain and all the L74KILR equipment can stay in the post car:-)

Ryan