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Lee Stewart 03-02-2021 05:35 PM

1970 Chevelle LS6
 
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olredalert 03-03-2021 03:05 PM

----To the next owner, please lower that car......Bill S

SS427 03-03-2021 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by olredalert (Post 1539867)
----To the next owner, please lower that car......Bill S

I would love to know what exact springs people are using to get them to sit correctly. As of late we have had nothing but trouble getting these cars to sit down where people like to see them. I have 4 cars in the shop and all 4 sit at this height. ALL have original assembly line springs in them on all 4 corners. Two of them still had the tags on them when they came in as well as original assembly line shocks but sit high. I have tried several different Moog springs and am now onto trying Eaton springs. We have also done all the math with the vendors to try and resolve it and have a TON of money in both labor and spring cost and have not been able to get them to sit right. Been doing this for 40 plus years and these last 4 cars are killing me.

Ryan1969Chevelle 03-03-2021 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SS427 (Post 1539874)
I would love to know what exact springs people are using to get them to sit correctly. As of late we have had nothing but trouble getting these cars to sit down where people like to see them. I have 4 cars in the shop and all 4 sit at this height. ALL have original assembly line springs in them on all 4 corners. Two of them still had the tags on them when they came in as well as original assembly line shocks but sit high. I have tried several different Moog springs and am now onto trying Eaton springs. We have also done all the math with the vendors to try and resolve it and have a TON of money in both labor and spring cost and have not been able to get them to sit right. Been doing this for 40 plus years and these last 4 cars are killing me.



That is very strange.


I had to read your note twice to make sure I understood correctly...….


Did the 4 cars sit nice and low when they arrived unrestored?


My car sat perfectly nice and low when I got it and I reused the original springs an it sits the same now...…… I'm really puzzled Rick, keep me in the loop!!


Control arm bolts tightened when the suspension is up as high as possible? I am not going to have any suggestions for you as I have 1 year of experience and you have 40 :-)


Ryan W.

SS427 03-03-2021 08:09 PM

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That is very strange. Did the 4 cars sit nice and low when they arrived unrestored?

Control arm bolts tightened when the suspension is up as high as possible? I am not going to have any suggestions for you as I have 1 year of experience and you have 40 :-)
Ryan W.

They all sat a little lower but not by much and still higher than most would like to see. I cannot stress enough, all had original 50 year old worn out coils and two cars had original shocks.

We tighten the suspension when the car is a rolling chassis and no body. We then pull it down while on a 4 post hoist using ratchet straps and take measurements where prescribed in the book and then tighten all the bolts. I have been doing it this way for years. I am really getting frustrated as it is prohibiting me from delivering some of these cars.

I just received my Eaton coils about and hour ago and they are 2" shorter than the other 4 original sets so we shall see where that puts it. If that works then I have to figure out how to lower the fronts the same amount but should be easy using the same formula. Just a pain to have to tear four front ends apart to replace front coils.

The one pictured looks good but is still about 1.5" too high.

Charley Lillard 03-04-2021 05:53 PM

If you pull the car down with straps and then tighten the bolts doesn't that just put a strain on the bushings as they are trying to return to neutral all the time ?

dustinm 03-04-2021 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Charley Lillard (Post 1540007)
If you pull the car down with straps and then tighten the bolts doesn't that just put a strain on the bushings as they are trying to return to neutral all the time ?

What I believe they are trying to do here is have the bushings at a neutral state/ ride height when tightening.

You are correct they will wear out faster if bound up on install, but with these cars even if they cheat them are they going to see enough miles to even break in?

Jamess113 03-04-2021 08:24 PM

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I have been using Hotchkis 2" and 3" drop springs to get a nice ride height. This Judge has a 2"drop spring.

SS427 03-04-2021 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dustinm (Post 1540020)
What I believe they are trying to do here is have the bushings at a neutral state/ ride height when tightening.

You are correct they will wear out faster if bound up on install, but with these cars even if they cheat them are they going to see enough miles to even break in?

That is correct. Tighten when the chassis is fully assembled with no body but pulled down to it's ride height. When the body is lowered onto the chassis it 'should' settle at its neutral position. Would tightening be better after the car is on the frame? Yes but it is VERY hard to get at the two bolts above the muffler. Also, the factory set the ride height on the chassis before the body was mounted from everything I have read so I am only repeating what was done originally.

Damien 03-05-2021 12:37 AM

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I tried 2 other sets of front springs for my Chevelle before trying the set of 2" lowered fronts springs I had sitting on the shelf for 3 years.
Never thought they would be the answer but I think it's pretty close.


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