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Stefano 10-22-2002 05:55 PM

Belmont Chevy Olds Ltd. Western, ON
 
I recently purchased a Rallye Green COPO Camaro N657867 which was sold through this dealership per GM of Canada paperwork.

Did they sell any other COPO cars as well?

COPO PETE 10-22-2002 08:58 PM

Re: Belmount Chevy Olds Ltd. Western, ON
 
They sold at least two other Camaros I know of.
Peter

Stefano 10-22-2002 09:08 PM

Re: Belmount Chevy Olds Ltd. Western, ON
 
This one has X44 and D80 Spoilers, AM radio & M21 , do you know how the other ones are equipped?

Keith Tedford 10-22-2002 09:08 PM

Re: Belmount Chevy Olds Ltd. Western, ON
 
Belmont Chev-Olds was a Toronto dealer. In '69 I saw an orange COPO Chevelle in their lower show room. I believe that Beare Motors got it in for a friend of mine. I was told that this car was written off many years ago, but we aren't absolutely sure.

Stefano 10-22-2002 09:28 PM

Re: Belmount Chevy Olds Ltd. Western, ON
 
Keith,
Were they a known Hi-Po Muscle Car dealer as well? Was it a big store?

Keith Tedford 10-22-2002 09:43 PM

Re: Belmount Chevy Olds Ltd. Western, ON
 
I don't remember much about them other than stopping by with a friend and seeing the Chevelle. They had a main level show room and a lower level as well. I guess they were a fair sized dealership but I don't remember them being connected with performance like Gorries was. Obviously they knew about the COPO cars though so they must have leaned toward performance to some extent.

mahoy78spyder 10-22-2002 09:47 PM

Re: Belmount Chevy Olds Ltd. Western, ON
 
I believe a Daytona Yellow COPO came from there also, but I'll check the paperwork tonight to make sure. If so, I'll list the options... but it looks very similar to the green one listed above.

MrMotion 10-23-2002 02:03 AM

Re: Belmount Chevy Olds Ltd. Western, ON
 
Yes, they were a large GM dealership. I lived about a mile North. They serviced the North West part of Toronto and did supply many hi performance vehicles. There were a number of Copo Camaros including the yellow one that Frank Naples owns. My buddies Red Copo came from there and is still in the Ontario area but was at one time tubbed and had been raced with and LS7 in it. Another friend of mine bought a Copo Chevelle from there. It too is still out there waiting to be found. A number of LS 6 Chevelles came from there and one car I know the history of is in the process of being restored and is owned by another friend of mine who found it as a full race car. My Chevelle LS6 is in Nova Scotia with a small block in it. The stories go on and on. So don't think there aren't any cars here! Everyones looking and every Cruise you go to you see another rare Hi Performance vehicle. Belmont Chev-Olds isn't there anymore but the stories are still there.


Stefano 10-23-2002 02:34 AM

Re: Belmount Chevy Olds Ltd. Western, ON
 
Thanks for the info. Guys. So that is three Camaros, Red. Daytona Yellow, and Rallye Green and Two Chevelles one Hugger and the other?

Bigblockhappy 10-23-2002 04:38 AM

Re: Belmount Chevy Olds Ltd. Western, ON
 
Mr Motion,

Do you know if Dean Myers and Wilson Niblett were performance dealers then?

COPO PETE 10-23-2002 04:49 AM

Re: Belmount Chevy Olds Ltd. Western, ON
 
Frank Naples old car was sold there. An impressive restoration by Brian was done on it. M21 car, spoilers, AM radio and tinted glass. The March feature car of this year was also sold there if I remember right.
Dealer # 95-576 is the number of the dealership. I was not aware of the red Camaro. That would make only two reds sold in Canada that I am aware of. I think the Orange Chevelle is alive and well in the States. Was it a chambered car???? To bad you don't have the vin#.
Peter

shor 10-23-2002 01:30 PM

Re: Belmount Chevy Olds Ltd. Western, ON
 
Where is the Naples Copo now?

mahoy78spyder 10-23-2002 01:34 PM

Re: Belmount Chevy Olds Ltd. Western, ON
 
It's here in Illinois. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

MrMotion 10-24-2002 12:55 AM

Re: Belmount Chevy Olds Ltd. Western, ON
 
Yes both dealerships sold performance GM vehicles but I have not heard of a Copo from either only SS Z28 396 454 and Corvettes. Both Dealerships are still in there locations and active.

MrMotion 10-24-2002 01:12 AM

Re: Belmount Chevy Olds Ltd. Western, ON
 
Golden Mile Chevrolet was a source of quite a number of Hi Performance GM Vehicles and is still active and at its original location. Copo Cars???? When you looked at a Copo Chevelle or Copo Camaro you didn't here the word "copo" and you would have been one of the select few or direct buddy to even sit or ride in one. No markings no emblems the True Muscle Car Sleeper in its base offering. What a rush to ride in one in 1969. The memories are still fresh!

mahoy78spyder 10-24-2002 03:35 AM

Re: Belmount Chevy Olds Ltd. Western, ON
 
Pete, you are right on the options on Frank Naples' old car. Brian did an excellent restoration on it. It still has only 28K original miles on it, and all the wonderful documentation Canada provides on their COPO's. It was purchased there at Belmount on 7/31/69 to a Mr. Thomas E. Broadley of Toronto. Looking through some more paperwork it apparently was featured on My Classic Car and the Jan '97 issue of Super Chevy.

shor 10-24-2002 01:31 PM

Re: Belmount Chevy Olds Ltd. Western, ON
 
Mahoy, can you email me about that car. Is it available?
[email protected]

mr gasser 10-31-2002 01:39 AM

Re: Belmount Chevy Olds Ltd. Western, ON
 
Does anyone have a emblem or decal from belmount chevrolet or maybe even a piture of the script? [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/crazy.gif[/img]

BARRY 11-14-2002 08:24 PM

Re: Belmount Chevy Olds Ltd. Western, ON
 
BELMONT SOLD 12 OR MORE CARS I HAD GOLD COPO

Stefano 11-14-2002 10:10 PM

Re: Belmount Chevy Olds Ltd. Western, ON
 
I believe Keith Tedford sent me a picture with Your COPO a while back, it was parked next to one of his cars. Very unique color.

How is your COPO equiped?

BARRY 11-15-2002 07:14 PM

Re: Belmount Chevy Olds Ltd. Western, ON
 
HI STEFANO I SAW YOUR CAR AT A BODY SHOP IT IS 6 DIGITS FROM THE MY GOLD COPO WITH I SOLD

Stefano 11-15-2002 07:18 PM

Re: Belmount Chevy Olds Ltd. Western, ON
 
Thanks Barry. I sold the Rallye Green COPO to another Club member.

tom406 11-30-2002 02:49 AM

Re: Belmount Chevy Olds Ltd. Western, ON
 
I just ran across copies of the documentation for N657861, a Gold COPO sold at Belmont-assuming it was your car, Barry? I saw it in Arizona a few years ago, it was for sale at the McDonalds cruise-in in Scottsdale that January. It was being offered by a Mr. Steve Stange for $75K, which was big money at the time. Its a very interesting (in a cool way!) combo of Olympic Gold/Dk Green standard, with an M21 4 speed, AM radio w/rear speaker, and rear window defroster. Bought by a Mr. Williard Clements in July of '69, it listed for $4944 Canadian, with $2450 allowed on his '68 Olds 442 trade in. Killer documentation on this car, with GM Canada report, Belmont Purchase Order, Protect-o-Plaque, Fisher Body Control Card, and a receipt for the rustproofing done.

Also with it is Barry Allen's (it was your car!) purchase order from War-Dan Auto Sales in Ontario, dated July '78, where he paid $4700 plus tax and license. In the remarks column it states boldly "Hi Performance Engine NO WARRANTY".

I was blown away by the documentation-I don't usually keep flyers for cars for sale too long, but this one I saved. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/smirk.gif[/img]


Stefano 11-30-2002 02:40 PM

Re: Belmount Chevy Olds Ltd. Western, ON
 
Thanks for sharing, cool story and that was alot for a nice Copo back then????

tom406 11-30-2002 05:24 PM

Re: Belmount Chevy Olds Ltd. Western, ON
 
Yeah, this was 4-5 years ago. As I recall, the other couple of COPO's around Barrett Jackson and Kruse seemed to be in the $45-50K range, and I think the Fathom Green/Green ex-Reggie Jackson column-shift auto ZL1 had a price of $69K written on it after it passed over the block unsold. So while I was duly impressed by the rare color combo and documentation, I remember thinking, boy he's reaching on the price.

tom406 12-03-2002 02:40 AM

Re: Belmount Chevy Olds Ltd. Western, ON
 
Oddly enough, I stumbled upon Steve Stange's website, and under his sold car listings, the COPO is the first car listed, with a number of pictures. Looks like he lowered the price of the car to $69,500 before selling it. You can find the pictures at ponycarranch SOLD

Jordan1213 06-03-2017 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefano (Post 680367)
Thanks for the info. Guys. So that is three Camaros, Red. Daytona Yellow, and Rallye Green and Two Chevelles one Hugger and the other?

Stefano- I have a blue Belmont COPO vin 805

Jordan1213 06-03-2017 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan1213 (Post 1355159)
Stefano- I have a blue Belmont COPO vin 805

Belmont sold 10 copo camaros and 5 copo Chevelle. Lance hill from Belmont ordered all of them. I have his complete list.

Ryan1969Chevelle 06-03-2017 09:30 PM

I would love to know more about the COPO Chevelles.

A Body's make the world go round:-)

Ryan

midyr 04-06-2019 02:17 PM

Belmont Chev-Olds
 
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This was just brought to my attention. Belmont was the highest volume new car dealer of any brand in Canada and delivered more COPOs than any other dealership. I know as I ordered and signed off on every one, along with Dave Mackay, confirmed by GM Canada. My daily driver for 3 months or so was Hugger Orange 638805, now in good hands in Southern Cal, with the odd side trip to Greece (really). Similar to almost all dealers, Belmont's sales files went into a landfill after a few years. I have Belmont butt end stickers for any current owner who need one.

Lance Hill

Ryan1969Chevelle 04-06-2019 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by midyr (Post 1442667)
This was just brought to my attention. Belmont was the highest volume new car dealer of any brand in Canada and delivered more COPOs than any other dealership. I know as I ordered and signed off on every one, along with Dave Mackay, confirmed by GM Canada. My daily driver for 3 months or so was Hugger Orange 638805, now in good hands in Southern Cal, with the odd side trip to Greece (really). Similar to almost all dealers, Belmont's sales files went into a landfill after a few years. I have Belmont butt end stickers for any current owner who need one.

Lance Hill

Thanks Lance, I would love to meet one day.

A Belmont dealer sticker would be nice for my scrap book.

Ryan W31

PS: you can see one of the cars in the picture is a 1969 Cutlass s and one a Supreme.

ZiggyL78 04-17-2019 06:06 AM

Belmont was the start for me.I was a teenager fresh out of high school and my father promised me $400 for a downer on a car if I passed grade 12.I lived within walking distance of Gorries Golden Mile Chev,but everyone knew that if you wanted a fast Chev then Belmont was the place to go and Dave Mackay was guy to talk to.Dave was a great salesman and he knew his sh*t.He was the kinda guy that could read the back of a Corn Flakes box and you would think it was the word of God.He showed me a couple of cars and then something out front caught my eye.It was a 69 Camaro SS350 in silver with black interior and black SS stripes along the side.It had a 350/300 SBC 4 Spd with 4:10 gears.The SS wheels with the white letter tires really finished it off.OMG.It was friggin beautifull.Don't forget I was a green teenager who got excited just to drive the Old Man's 425 Olds.Dave took me for a ride behind the dealer.The car was dead stock so just cruising around was nice and smooth with the quiet exhaust.After all it was practically a new car.We started back to the dealer and pulled on to the street behind the dealer.Dave geared down and let her go.Damn it was fast for me.
It ran 14.40.Dave powered the gears like a pro.I was sold.He gave me a great deal and I couldn't get to the bank fast enough.

It seemed like an eternity before me and my dad went to pick it up.I remember I was shaking all the way there.We finalized the deal and I went to get in the car.My dad stopped me and said "I'll drive it home".Emoji When I first went to look for a car my dad said "and I don't want to see any Hot Rod or a fast car".Emoji When my dad saw the car for the first time,I couldn't believe he didn't realize it was fast.We drove to the highway and when we got on the on ramp my dad nailed it.The car put down 2 nice black stripes on the pavement and actually got a little out of shape.Oh sh"t.It's all over now.I was so close.I almost had it.I figured he was going to get off on the next exit and take it back to the dealer.Emoji
Surprisingly he didn't and we made it home.He didn't say a word and walked over to me and yelled "I told you nothing fast!"He kicked me in the ass and lifted me right off the ground;)It gets better.Stay tuned.
PS.The first pic is a stock photo.

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-storage-park...873346?dc=true

midyr 04-17-2019 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZiggyL78 (Post 1444164)
Belmont was the start for me.I was a teenager fresh out of high school and my father promised me $400 for a downer on a car if I passed grade 12.I lived within walking distance of Gorries Golden Mile Chev,but everyone knew that if you wanted a fast Chev then Belmont was the place to go and Dave Mackay was guy to talk to.Dave was a great salesman and he knew his sh*t.He was the kinda guy that could read the back of a Corn Flakes box and you would think it was the word of God.He showed me a couple of cars and then something out front caught my eye.It was a 69 Camaro SS350 in silver with black interior and black SS stripes along the side.It had a 350/300 SBC 4 Spd with 4:10 gears.The SS wheels with the white letter tires really finished it off.OMG.It was friggin beautifull.Don't forget I was a green teenager who got excited just to drive the Old Man's 425 Olds.Dave took me for a ride behind the dealer.The car was dead stock so just cruising around was nice and smooth with the quiet exhaust.After all it was practically a new car.We started back to the dealer and pulled on to the street behind the dealer.Dave geared down and let her go.Damn it was fast for me.
It ran 14.40.Dave powered the gears like a pro.I was sold.He gave me a great deal and I couldn't get to the bank fast enough.

It seemed like an eternity before me and my dad went to pick it up.I remember I was shaking all the way there.We finalized the deal and I went to get in the car.My dad stopped me and said "I'll drive it home".Emoji When I first went to look for a car my dad said "and I don't want to see any Hot Rod or a fast car".Emoji When my dad saw the car for the first time,I couldn't believe he didn't realize it was fast.We drove to the highway and when we got on the on ramp my dad nailed it.The car put down 2 nice black stripes on the pavement and actually got a little out of shape.Oh sh"t.It's all over now.I was so close.I almost had it.I figured he was going to get off on the next exit and take it back to the dealer.Emoji
Surprisingly he didn't and we made it home.He didn't say a word and walked over to me and yelled "I told you nothing fast!"He kicked me in the ass and lifted me right off the ground;)It gets better.Stay tuned.
PS.The first pic is a stock photo.

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-storage-park...873346?dc=true

Hey Zig,

Good to know you are still out there. I won't let Davey see this or his head will swell.

Lance

ZiggyL78 04-17-2019 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by midyr (Post 1444172)
Hey Zig,

Good to know you are still out there. I won't let Davey see this or his head will swell.

Lance

LOL.Wait till I tell them about Rick Eaton.

Cheers

CamaroNOS 04-19-2019 01:05 PM

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That was a good read Ziggy. Love a"close to the heart story" like that.

My last 69 RS Z/28 was a Belmont Chev car. Thanks again Lance for the Belmont dealer sticker.

Below are some pics of my car completed at the MCACN show as well as a few pics of it in its racing trim back in 1971 - 1973 when it was campaigned in and around Cayuga Drag strip. Forgive me for the sideway pics as I still have no idea to the correct this.

Paul

Ryan1969Chevelle 04-19-2019 02:27 PM

Paul: By memory we met in person at your car at MCACN.

Great memories, great car, great dealership!

Ryan W31

ZiggyL78 04-26-2019 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by CamaroNOS (Post 1444381)
That was a good read Ziggy. Love a"close to the heart story" like that.

My last 69 RS Z/28 was a Belmont Chev car. Thanks again Lance for the Belmont dealer sticker.

Below are some pics of my car completed at the MCACN show as well as a few pics of it in its racing trim back in 1971 - 1973 when it was campaigned in and around Cayuga Drag strip. Forgive me for the sideway pics as I still have no idea to the correct this.

Paul

Hello Paul.

Your car looks amazing!Definitely my favorite colors for a Z28.I am sitting here looking at the race pics and thinking I know this car.My first clue was B&T Auto.I was then trying to read the smaller lettering and saw Shimizu.So you bought this car off Jim Shimizu!Jim was a good friend of mine.I still can't believe he's gone.RIP Jimmy.We sure had some good times.Great to see the car and know that it is being taken care of.

Thanks for posting.
Zig

CamaroNOS 04-27-2019 09:20 PM

Ryan.....your are correct. That is where me crossed paths first.

Damn I like those MCACN shows.

Paul

CamaroNOS 04-27-2019 09:25 PM

Zig,

I actually bought it off of James and Cindy Copeland and they purchased it off of Jim. Yes......RIP Jim.

I spoke with Jim a lot in order to get as much info. as possible about the history of the Camaro. When he campaigned the car, he was quite wrapped up in all the action back then.

Would you have any old pics of his car?

What were you running at the time?

Thanks for the compliments.

Paul

ZiggyL78 04-28-2019 06:21 AM

OK.I'm not sure of the exact years when Jim was running the car.In 1972 you would have found me in Georgetown running my 64 Chevelle.It was a warmed over 327 4 Spd with 4:88 gears.That's why I didn't make it to Cayuga.I was lucky to keep up in the truck lane at 4500.I would go there along #7 were the gears worked out fine.In 73 I bought a brand new Vega Sedan Delivery which had the Chevelle's 327 in the beginning.That was car that really put me on the map as most guys with Vegas were just dropping V8s in them while mine was tubbed with 11.50 x 28 slicks inside the wheel wells.
Anyway.Glad to see you've got Jimmy's car and restored it properly.Not too many RS Z28s around.

Cheers Zig


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