Fears about infrastructure
Fears about infrastructure (copied and edited from a popular automotive magazine)
Honda and others goes all in on electric vehicles by 2040 ... some even earlier. As with all the others rushing to go all electric, there remain concerns. As we all found out recently in Texas, the power grid was not up to it at all. With no nuclear or coal expansion, wind will not be reliable enough to sustain the demand for electric vehicles … neither will solar. If these vehicles are all here by 2030 or even 2035, demanding the capacity for charging, the cost for satisfying their needs will also drive up residential as well as commercial rates for businesses. We will just be back to where we are paying today for fuel. The infrastructure may not be ready for it when all the vehicles when they are here for consumers to buy. Want a peek at what I mean? Today we still drive on 1960s-vintage two lane interstate highways. |
I've been thinking and talking about this for a few years now. There is absolutely no way that we are ready for a wholesale change to EV's. I always thought that McDonalds owners should set up a few EV charging stations at their restaurants that are located at each exit. Could you imagine the business they will get? Charge something for the use of the electricity and reap the benefits of people having a 1/2 hour to an hour of downtime.
Anyway, I still don't see the range anxiety going away nor do I see anyone wanting to sit for a half hour or hour at each rest stop/charging station when making long distance trips. Unless the batteries improve in range and charging time, there's no way *most people are going to make the EV switch. I know I won't. |
All EV's? HaHa! Where's the electricity coming from? Not to mention the grid which has to handle all this added capacity. Not to mention the batteries. Electricity is the long term answer, but somebody better start thinking about nuclear power plants, and an upgraded grid to carry the power. All energy, either directly or indirectly, is the result of a nuclear reaction. Think the sun. The only energy man can generate on earth is nuclear. I'm wondering how many years it will take for the wind and solar power fantasy to be replaced by reality.
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18 days, 6700 miles, New York to Sacramento, and only had to recharge 32 times. Google says a gas powered car can make the trip in 42 hours and only needs to go 2800+ miles. Lectrics must be for those that are looking for a more leisurely existence, or something. It sure ain't my cuppa tea. |
My chiropractor is gung-ho on EVs, drive a Tesla, solar panels on his office roof, all he wants to talk about. Brags about heating and cooling the office, charging the Tesla for all his travels and selling power back to the energy co.
When I bring up battery manufacturing and use of precious metals, plus recycling issues, sidesteps the subject. HD trucks, told him I'll stick with my Duramax. "Oh, I guess an EV would have too much torque for you". I ask range towing 7,500lbs. "maybe 300 miles". Ah, ok, when I hook up to go, it's usually 600-1,200 miles. Where is there a charging station to park a 54' rig for an hour?? Or over night?? Bill W |
I love torque and EV's can give it all to you instantly if it wants to. I have faith in how technology is progressing so rapidly. I think smart people will solve range, battery design etc because of how much money can be made...........Plus I'm 68 years old and will be drinking out of a sippy cup by the time gas cars are outlawed...Good luck youngsters.....
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I’m going to enjoy smelling that gasoline for the rest of my days! |
I'm putting all my money into sippy cups.
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For anyone who has not driven an electric car here is a good video that is still quite current in showing how and why the infrastructure sucks.
The simple reason why this current electric technology is again doomed to fail is as plain as the nose on your face. Life is way too short. The only way it is accepted is if it is literally forced upon the population, which seems to be part of "the plan". |
Any wholesale technological shift in human history has involved dragging naysayers kicking and screaming into progress. It will happen, it always does. Smarter people will figure it out and one day it's normal. We are many days away from it, but it will happen - guaranteed. My son is 10; I'd like him and his children to enjoy this beautiful planet God gave us, in some semblance of its original form - not the cesspool we have created. I have faith we'll get there.
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Wholesale shifts are accomplished in a free and open society by the dictates of the free market. Electric will kill the internal combustion engine-- when the market says so. A comment on the technology basis for EV's.. . Background: I used to manage a substantial stockpile of lithium (literally warehouses full) that was generated during the early days of our atomic defense programs. The US government sold all of it to battery manufacturers to enable the manufacture of Lithium batteries, and to keep lithium mining to an absolute minimum then all due to the risks presented by it. Want to see a real cesspool? Mine Lithium and look at the environmental impacts from doing so. Nobody wants to talk about it and there is a reason why. |
The "illusion" that electric vehicles are so much cleaner is just that, an illusion. Take into account the negative effects of mining for the materials needed for batteries and the electric producing plants required to power these are so underreported in a real and critical meaning, it's ridiculous. They should have named the Prius the Pious for all of the virtue signaling of their owners.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-19830232 |
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My logic is not faulty at all. The extent of mining is sure to increase a lot with much more demand, but it's not only the mining, it's the massive amounts of electricity that will be required to run a nation (several nations if it goes the way EV companies want it to) of millions of cars.
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Love 'em or hate 'em electric vehicles will take over.Thank goodness I won't be around to witness it.
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I think back to all the people hating LS engines.........
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I have to reluctantly agree, EV's are absolutely amazing in performance, it's like driving a full scale RC car. Having been involved in OEM IC engine development for the last 30yrs that's a tuff pill to swallow, as gas and oil are in my blood. But it is the future, and while I don't really embrace it, it is what it is...Infrastructure? not ready, battery life?, not ready, but one day it will be and future generations will look back and will see IC engines the same way we see the Flintsone's car today. Until then, I'm burning gas and leaving my carbon footprint as long as possible..
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Yes.. I remain shocked that this video has not been censored. Anyone here want to poke holes in the math, the logic, or the facts presented? |
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