[Steve Shauger]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: luzl78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Oh contrare, monfrare. Grumpy' car was built before the pacer. I believe charley, who owned the pacer, has agreed to this. I think this was a long winded conversation years ago. I think grumpy' was 3b. </div></div>

Well the pace car is 2400 Vin before Grumps and thought the TT identified it as built a week before( this was debated 6 years ago). The only rub is that some believe it wasn't the first produced because the engine was switched by Chevrolet engineering to the L35/34 configuration. So some believe since it wasn't delivered/sold as an L78 it wasn't the first one. We can split hairs but to me it was the first L78 camaro off the assemblyline which in my opinion defines it as the first. The latest info may define the backup pace car as the first L78 so Grumps may in fact be the third.