[Lynn]

I have still not seen ONE proposal by any Country, State, Province or municipality that makes OWNING an internal combustion engine (ICE) car illegal, OR occasionally driving an ICE car illegal, even after 2035 or 2040 (or 2050 for that matter…. in which case, like Charley says, I don’t know that it matters to me). The only ban involving a collector car was driving downtown Paris, not something I am planning to do any time soon.

However, soon after its initial implementation, banning cars manufactured prior to 1997, an exception was made (June 2016) for classic cars. What they are targeting are cars that are old (but not REALLY old like our collector cars) and dirty and driven daily.

Norway has maybe the most progressive policy towards all electric vehicles. Even in Norway, the collector cars will be exempt.

You can’t just read the headline that says: “All ICE Cars Banned by 2025 (or 2030, 2035 or 2040) and ignore the actual article, which obviously contains much more detail than the headline.

All of the proposals purport to bans the sale of a NEW car with ICE. While many also aim to speed up the switch to all electric vehicles by various means; however, not one actual proposal suggests taking all the Duesenbergs or muscle cars away. They are not banning cars already on the road. Do you seriously believe a consumer could purchase an ICE car in 2029, and then be forced to send it to the crusher in 2030? He or she will just not be able to buy another ICE in 2030.

Is the internal combustion engine on the way out? Absolutely; although, IF (a big “if” I know) someone develops an engine control system that is virtually emission free, there would be no more argument against the ICE. Necessity is the mother of invention. If you had told me in 1974 that cars in 2020 burn as clean as they do now AND that those cars would incredibly more efficient and powerful, I would have laughed. Of course, I was wrong.

Post #68 implies that the State of NY wants to go to war against the car. Clearly they are trying to figure out ways to reduce the number of cars on the road on a daily basis. Again, I have seen nothing to indicate the State wants to go after collector cars. The implication is that the Gov is considering compulsory helmet laws for auto drivers. First, if it is applied across the board (and no reason to believe it won’t be) then it would ALSO apply to EVs. Second, it isn’t like there is an actual movement for compulsory helmet laws for automobiles. The ENTIRE part of the story that suggest so is as follows:

Streetsblog NYC’s Gersh Kuntzman then asked Cuomo if he might consider helmet compulsion for car drivers, given that vast numbers of car drivers involved in fatal crashes die as a result of head trauma.
After a long pause, the governor said: “I’m thinking.”
He then followed up with: “I don’t know enough. I’d like to see the data.”

That’s it.

While the ICE cars in their current iterations clearly have a bulls eye on them; muscle cars do not.

This thread started with an article about the EPA wanting to ban any race car that started life as a street car. That proposal was made in Feb. 2016. While someone may have posted the UPDATE on this thread, I did not see it. Five and one half months later, the proposal was withdrawn, as cooler heads prevailed.

“Update 7/28/16: While the EPA has withdrawn the proposal, the agency continues to assert authority under the Clean Air Act to regulate the modification of vehicles used for competition. As a result, the Recognizing the Protection of Motorsports (RPM) Act was created, a bipartisan bill in Congress that will guarantee that street vehicles can continue to be modified into race cars used exclusively for the track.”

Maybe the sky will start falling in on our hobby at some point. For now, it is not. This is just my opinion. You are free to read the same stories and draw different conclusions. I don’t have a crystal ball.