haven't been around for awhile do to recovering from major shoulder /chest surgery.i've been on disability from a work related injury that happened in june 2003.i had thoracic outlet surgery performed on my r/shoulder and that surgery really kicked my but hard.i'm home right now recovering and feeling no pain from those nice drugs the doctor gave me.only thing i'm bummed about is complication from the surgery has deadened a nerve in my arm causing numbness /tingling .the doctor told me before the surgery this could happen