1970 Olds 442 Pace Car - COPO?

[StealthBird]

Not sure if this has been discussed before, but at a large cruise night around here, a 1970 Olds 442 Pace Car, with a stand up board, and a letter (from I think 1992) from GM Oldsmobile-Canada stating the car had a COPO designation, 1 of 3 cars made with a 4-speed trans, and a "special high-perf engine" (not sure if they were insinuating it may have been a W-30?). Anyway, I thought GM Canada was rock solid with documentation, I question the COPO designation.

Anyone know of this car?

(And I also saw the Jeff Morocco Chevelle there, and a whole slew of race cars. For anyone in the area, Rolling Meadows on Friday Nights is a great cruise spot!) [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]

[JAD]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: StealthBird</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not sure if this has been discussed before, but at a large cruise night around here, a 1970 Olds 442 Pace Car, with a stand up board, and a letter (from I think 1992) from GM Oldsmobile-Canada stating the car had a COPO designation, 1 of 3 cars made with a 4-speed trans, and a &quot;special high-perf engine&quot; (not sure if they were insinuating it may have been a W-30?). Anyway, I thought GM Canada was rock solid with documentation, I question the COPO designation.

Anyone know of this car?

(And I also saw the Jeff Morocco Chevelle there, and a whole slew of race cars. For anyone in the area, Rolling Meadows on Friday Nights is a great cruise spot!) [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] </div></div>http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_de...D=SC0510-90285

[StealthBird]

Thanks Joe, I <span style="font-style: italic">thought</span> this had been discussed before!

Not sure if this was the same car, the one we saw had the Indy decals all over it. I'll try to get a few pics soon.

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[442w30]

The car linked in the auction is a Cutlass, not a 4-4-2.

[Rockdaddy]

My cousin owns the car you guys are talking about. He did buy it from Mecum at the Indy auction. When the car was bought the info you saw on the board at the car show was what came with the car. COPO was put on the front windshield of the car at the auction. We are in the process of re-researching the car.

[StealthBird]

Rockdaddy, welcome to the site!

Questions: Did your cousin put all the Indy decals on the car after he purchased it? Also, I thought all 1970 Olds Pace Cars were built off the 442 model, and the one that sold at Mecum was a base Cutlass?

[Rockdaddy]

Thanks StealthBird
The Indy decals were on the car when he bought it. The pictures from the Mecum web site must be the wrong ones. The car was listed for sale on other sites that were correct. I'm in the process of trying to figure this car out.

[442w30]

Mike, I think 358 pace cars were Cutlass Supremes, and 268 were 4-4-2s.

[OLDSPACECAR]

JUST FOUND THIS CONVERSATION TODAY AND WANT TO HELP WITH INFORMATION. UP UNTIL LAST YEAR I ONLY HAD 2 DOCUMENTED 4SP CUTLASS PACE CARS GOING TO CANADA IN MY REGESTRY. ONE OF WHICH SHOWED UP ON EBAY AFEW YEARS BACK. LAST YEAR I GOT A COPY OF THE EXPORT SHEET AND THERE WAS AT LEAST 1 442 4SPD SENT TO CANADA.I HAVE TRIED TO OPTAIN THE EXPORT SHEETS OR AT LEAST RESEARCH FROM GM CANADA AND THE GENTLEMAN I TAKED TO ON THE PHONE WAS NOT MUCH HELP AT ALL AS HE REFUESD ANY INFORMATION ON THE SHEETS AND THEIR EXCISTANCE. IF SOMEONE HAS SOME CONNECTION ON THE EXPORT SHEET I WOULD LOVE TO GET COPIES FOR HISTORY. AS FOR THE COPO THESES WERE NOT IN ANY WAY A SPECIAL ORDER COPO TYPE CAR. THE ONLY SPECIAL CODE IS THE Y74 WHICH WAS A PACE CAR STRIPE OPTION AND INCLUDED A FIBERGLASS RAM AIR HOOD. SPECIAL NOTE HERE IS THAT YOU COULD NOT HAVE A W30 OR W31 AND A Y74 AS YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN ORDERING TWO RAMAIR HOOD AND EACH WOULD HAVE CANCELED EACH OTHER. THE TRACE CARS WERE FOR THE MOST PART JUST CHEAP FACTORY ORDERED CARS. AS FOR THE REPLICA CARS THEY COULD HAVE BEEN ORDERED VIA THE DEALER WITH A LOT OF OPTIONS, SOME WERE EVEN USED AS A RAFFLE CAR--NO OPTIONS AT ALL. HOPE THIS HELPS AND CLEARS UP SOME ISSUES I HAVE READ. ALSO IF I CAN BE OR ANY HELP ON THE 70 PACE CARS PLEASE CONTACT ME.
KEITH COFFEY
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[PeteLeathersac]

Welcome aboard Keith!.
In case you're not aware, vehicles built in Canada or elsewhere but delivered new through a Canadian dealer had their RPO's and other info recorded..
If you have the Vin of the 4-Spd car you're researching the info's available today from GM Canada Vintage services..

http://www.gm.ca/gm/english/shopping/parts/vintage

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~ Pete

PS - Please turn your Caps off when posting as a lot of us fellas here have old eyes that can't handle it..