Richie Zul's Z-11????

[Verne_Frantz]

At the '67 or '68 Rod & Custom show at the (then) N.Y.C. Coliseum, I saw a '63 Impala Sport Coupe on display with a sign in front of it stating it was Richie Zul's Z-11. There's also a photo of it in one of the early magazines. The car was part of a display of Motion Performance cars. I've been trying to track down information on this car for Rusty Symmes and myself to determine if it was really a factory Z-11 car. I've contacted Joel and he says the car was not sponsored by Motion, nor was it a Z-11. Joel gave me some old numbers to try to get in touch with Richie, but neither Rusty nor myself have been successful.
Since I see a few members here were in that area back then (well, maybe not that far back, since the year of inquiry is not the mainstream of this site), I thought I'd ask if anyone can shed some light on or about this car. (it was black on black)
Rusty has been helping Mark with the definitive book on the Z-11s, and it would be nice to have this car included, if in fact it was factory built.
We have absolutely no information on this car what-so-ever, other than it's presence in the Motion display at that show. Any help would be most appreciated.
thanks,
Verne.

[SS427]

Verne,
If it is (Mark) Ascher you speak of then never mind but if not, you may try getting ahold of him as his has done a ton of research on these cars. Let me know if you need his contact information.
Rick

[Verne_Frantz]

Yes Rick, That is the Mark I referred to. I already know how to contact him, but thanks. It's information on Zul's car that I'm trying to uncover in order to forward it to him and Rusty.
Verne.

[SS427]

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[tom406]

That's the "ASSASSIN", right? I've got the same picture in one of Marty Schorr's (Former editor of Hi Performance CARS) old books. Marty is still around and started writing more lately, plus he keeps extensive archives, so it might be worth dropping an e-mail to him for info on the car or the people involved. He's a contributing editor to VETTE magazine - or at least freelanced to them in the last year for the article on that cool '67 Vette sponsored by Motion.

[Verne_Frantz]

Yes Tom, that's the car. Thanks for the lead to Marty. I also just did a search on Richie and it looks like he has a business in NY building race engines for boats!
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Verne.

[RichSchmidt]

It is funny that you mention Richie Zul.I found this board by looking up his name on a search engine.I believe I have a line on Bill Jenkin's 1970 camaro,and was looking for pics of it when Zul owned it.It looks like the car is in Newark New Jersey,and that it is pretty much beyond restoration.A local racer who raced prostock back in the 70's knew where the car was all along.It seems that the car ended up in the hands of a guy who does a lot of money races,and he used it as a money maker{hence the reason why Zul claimed it dissapeared}.From what I have seen,it looks like the last of the real car was hacked off about 5 years ago when the racer added a tube front clip to the already backhalfed chassis.The funny part was that I was talking to this guy at the race track around that time,and he was telling me how he removed almost 100# of dead weight from his car when he cut out the entire 3 layer thick firewall and replaced it with aluminum when he front clipped the car.It looks like the only original metal on the car is the roof,quarter panels and door jambs,it has no vin tag or floor pan,and the entire subframe and firewall were also chucked.The owner didnt seem to care much since it was his race car to do with as he saw fit,and he had litle concern for the historical value of the car.The owner wont even talk about the history of the car,but everybody who knows it says it was Jenkin's car.The Pro stock racer I know also said that Jenkin's owner more then one of certain year camaros,but I dont think that is the case with the 70 car.I also have a pretty good source on his 67 smallblock car.A guy I race with has some old street racing photos of a very popular white camaro that ran the fastest"raw horsepower" smallblock in Long Island back in the early 80's,the car had all the trimmings of Jenkin's car right down to the cragar mags in the photos from the early 80's,and was also a bit rusty looking.we are looking into that car,and if anybody has any info on the camaro from New york that was raced by a guy named Andy Harris,I would like to hear about it.I think I will start a new tread about this matter.I dont doubt that some of the motion guys from new york might have followed the scene during that time frame.

[COPO]

Didn't sixities pick up Grumpy's toy recently? I thought it was on Ebay about 6 weeks ago??

[sixtiesmuscle]

Yep, and some of what our new friend has posted is true. The car has been modified over the years by its previous owners, namely, Bruce Larsen, Richie Zul, and Dennis Ferrara. The car has been verified by Jenkins as his #VIII "Toy". It is by no means beyond restoration. I would think that is up to the owner, and, how he chooses to restore the car. It could be done as the early subframe car, or, the very early chassis car that it is today. The car & chassis appear to be as raced at least 25 years ago. To go back to a subframe/frame rail car would be a major undertaking. I kind of like the early chassis style prostocks which came about very soon after the class started. Since this car is believed to be Jenkin's first "rent a racer", I am fairly sure he still owned it when it was converted, but, I am still researching all the facts.

[Kim_Howie]

Mike very cool car whith a lot of history. Jenkins the man [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif[/img]