'64 Build Sheet carbon sheet or ??

**Paul_S** · #1 04-22-2007, 05:22 AM

Just wondering if anyone might have an idea what this may be and if there is a better way to read it. I found this carbon copy (carbon side down) under the original carpet on the passenger side of my Norwood '64 and when I hold it up to the light I can just make out a body code. Attached is a phone pic as found. At one time it was over the floor plug (can see the marks) and at some point it moved back right in front of the seat. It looks as though most of the details may have been rubbed out from passengers.

Could this be all that's left of a built sheet carbon copy that was "ringed" to the carpet for build identification? I did find a small ring stuck in the padding near it which could have been holding the sheets there.

Thanks for any info, Paul

Belair62 · #2 04-22-2007, 06:10 AM

Could be Paul. I have a perfect buildsheet out of a 64 Impala SS I owned that was in the rear seat bottom...

Verne_Frantz · #3 04-22-2007, 06:41 AM

Paul,
I've never found a "carbon". I don't think any found their way into a car. The various assembly stations around the line received their own "original" on a teletype machine. Some of those originals were attached to subassemblies that made it into the car, like seats, side upolstery, instrument clusters, etc. When (if) a sheet was dropped where it wouldn't be seen when the car was assembled, it just got left there. The body of the car was a rolling trash can for the guys on the line. I think it's an original that's just succumbed to the tar paper and carpet backing, with a little dampness thrown in.
I can't tell you how many original buildsheets I've found in a car with a VIN sequence for the previous car or next car on the line.

Verne

**Paul_S** · #4 04-22-2007, 08:57 AM

Verne,

I have to try to get some more info off of it. It's definitely carbon paper and the paper/clean side was against the padding. There is no tar paper used under the carpet, just jute padding. The only tar type pad is under the back seat. The floors and padding are very clean. Other pieces of paper found and the carpet date tag look great also. When I hold it up to light I'm seeing a negative, black background and white writing. I'm checking with a 'Vair source also who has done a bunch of research. Hopefully something more will be visible on this.

Thanks, Paul

Verne_Frantz · #5 04-22-2007, 05:57 PM

Good luck Paul. That's a First. I've never found any carbon in any '64. Is the car a Corvair? I should have noticed it was Norwood. There were no Norwood full size cars in '64. That explains the missing tar paper and carbon, I guess.

Verne

Tarrytown SS427s · #6 04-22-2007, 05:57 PM

I think it is possible for it to be a carbon copy. I have many sheets from mainly Wilmington DE cars and one that I have is a carbon copy. It has blue characters and the backside is the stuff that goes on to the next sheet. It also has the piece of masking tape on it from when it was once stuck to the body during assembly. It also has the holes on one side, and the handwritten number is in ink, unlike most you will see that are copies. I was at a PA yard last week and found a car with FOUR sheets, all from that car, oddly enough.
Verne, do you have any 64-70 Chevrolet Wilmington Sheets?
Steve

Verne_Frantz · #7 04-22-2007, 06:07 PM

Steve,
I have quite a few '64 Wilmington build sheets. Not all plants used the same type of sheets. Wilmington used large 8.5x11 with "X"s in the boxes to denote the options. No cryptic codes. Wilmington did leave a lot of paper in their cars.

Verne

**Paul_S** · #8 04-22-2007, 09:51 PM

Verne,

This is from my '64 Nova. A while ago I was talking/working with a few people (mainly 'Vair guys) about build codes between different plants and between different cars built at the same plant. -Trying to combine known info of different models from the same plant to help fill in some blanks for both sides. Maybe they'll have some background info.

Paul

Verne_Frantz · #9 04-23-2007, 05:14 AM

Paul, If only your search was for Full Size '64 data, I'd be able to help pull everything together for you. But many of the codes were shared between body lines.
One of my best and closest buddies has a beautiful original '64 SS that he has ungraded "some". It's a 4bbl (220) 283, and it runs like the wind. One tickle of the throttle and it gets your attention and says, "ok,let's GO".

Verne

**Paul_S** · #10 04-23-2007, 07:37 AM

ooh, nice car he has there. Saddle Tan SS with tinted windows.

What color is the interior (Saddle, Fawn, Black..)? It's an original 283 with a Powerglide?

Paul

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