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[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

I think Skierkaj just took one more step to recovery

[Charley Lillard]

[skierkaj]

Slow down now,

I have my own views; that's why I don't like to associate myself with one particular party.

Some Liberals are idiots, others are not, some Conservatists are good, others are not.

Maybe I should just join the green party

OR NOT!

[Allen]

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Maybe I should just join the green party



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Maybe the green beer party! (Can't forget the day, you know). Oh wait..... you said you were 19..... Hmmmm... can't have that. Unless the liberals changed the law or something while we weren't looking.

[zoidberg]

But there is another point to consider here, besides the economy, although that is the most important consideration in all this. Look, America started out as a nation of immigrants, but it isn't any more. I was born here, and I'm willing to bet most everybody else on this board was too. I hear people say that in the grand scheme of things, these cars aren't that important, and, compared to staying alive and feeding your kids, they aren't. But, we are no longer an English colony. We are our own country, with our own culture, lifestyle, and history. Which these cars are a big part of. And if they are all gone, we lose that history. For good. They cannot be replaced. These cars represent our country, and our past, and they could not have existed anywhere else in the world. British and especially Italian factory hot rods were priced out of range of the average person. But not in the good ol' USA. I read once that the factory muscle car wars were the greatest non-military competitive effort in history. EVER. If we crush all these cars, there is no reason at all to stop there. Let's just go ahead and light the Smithsonian on fire while we're at it. And who needs the Museum of Natural History? Or any museum, for that matter. Let's just get rid of every museum in the nation, even the tiny backwoods ones that only deal with the little, half-dead town they are located in. That is what is being advocated here. I don't just love these cars because they're fast and they look good, I love them because they are more than that. They are our country's history. Mom, apple pie, Chevrolet, and all that.

OK, I'm done now.

[DjD]

Anyone see my hip waders?

Folks have got to learn to quit blaming others for the problems we face. I know it's easier to say the other guy did it than it is to own up to the fact that we all did it!! Funny the folks with the balls to accept the responsibility that comes with being an elected official has to take the blame for everything. To listen to some folks an elected official that dips his noodle in the wrong sauce is on the same level as Hitler or some other mass murderer!!

As part of a community, a very small minority of us are willing to subject ourselves to being attacked in an effort to make a difference. A very large majority seem to sit back and spew all the things that the minority are doing wrong... Folks if you want to see solutions you have to admit to being part of the problem. This divide and conquer, us vrs them, lib vrs consvt, dem vrs rep stuff has to stop.

We play election games and rally behind the person or party we feel will do the best job and represent us. Then if our guy wins we go back about our business. If our guy looses we set out to undermine and sidetrack everything the winner does so our guy has a better chance next time. Come on guys, be smarter than that!! Doesn't matter which side of the fence you are on using logic and reasoning should tell you you can't let your emotions get the best of you. We are all in this together divide and conquer won't solve anything....

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

That is all well and good, but why is it that the 'elected officials' themselves don't ever want to shoulder their share of the responsibility either? There is a good reason whey politicians are among the three most distrusted of occupations. 'Dipping the noodle' is but the tip of the iceberg with several politicians - whether they be Dem/Rep, that doesn't instantly make them communists. The multi party system provides the balance to prevent our capitalism from sliding into socialism.

I agree with you that the local community leader takes more heat than the pres, just ask some mayors that are on here

[gemleeus]

the good thing about it all is you have the right to your veiws and opinions as well as the rest of the folks in here. my wife is liberal, left wing radical whatever you want to call it. we discuss matters all the time in a civilized manner. discussions like this are good. the facts are what matters, insulting ones positions or veiws will not accomplish anything (not saying YOU have done this). i used to follow what goes on with our political leaders from the ones running for my city counsel to the presidency. since the clinton years i vote republican straight across the board no matter whos running, i think the democratic party has gone so far to the left they leave me no choice.

[budnate]

Geez, I get my wrist slapped for posting something about a guy and his possible?? fake war medals and am told this is not a political board??

Lets talk about cars and NOS floor Mats for a Cosworth Vega.
BTW, Pantera had the best post from Gates Book?

Bud.

[DjD]

Politicians are humans like everyone else. Put yourself in their shoes for a minute. You just won an election by a narrow margine where only 50% of those that can vote did. Now you have to go about an already tough enough job and you find out 75% of the folks you work for don't support what you set out to do. It's a wonder anything gets done!!

Then we are all two faced with respect to morals and such. A sports figure or rock star sleeps with 10,000 partners and is a hero, it's acceptable, the guy is on the road and has needs!!! The CEO of a big company buys call girls for his business contacts to win the big deal and it's acceptable too, even uncle bob who has a certain charm with the ladys is still looked on as a family hero of sorts... Let an elected official (not just Bill) fall prey to temptation and he's a sinner and has hurt everyone so deeply!! Guys put on beer and the selection starts looking better real quick. Gals use power and fame as their beer ... It's easy to resist from across the room but have a gal wave her tail under your nose and pur at you. Temptation gets real hard to resist!!

I would never suggest doing away with the political system we have, I just think once the election is over we need to support whoever ends up in office. The best plans don't work if the other party throws out too many road blocks and that's exactly what happens... A good idea doesn't have a chance to get off the ground. That's where I'm going with the divide and conquer. I can enter my car in a show and loose to my buddy and I have nothing but good to say about him and his car. I played ball for years and compete against friends and win or loose we still had beers after the games. A far cry from an election but if conservitaves had respect for liberals and vise versa we'd all be a lot better off. To put the blame for the economy on one mans sholders or even the party he represents is foolish. We tend to do just that and it doesn't matter what the problem, if you're unemployed it's the other guys fault. Gas prices too high, ya, we can blame them for that too... Immigration, Ya he caused those problems too and chased business out too!! Just easier to cast blame and down a beer than to get involved and work to making a change...

Sorry for the rant but this whole political views and opinions thing doesn't sit well, if your not part of the solution your part of the problem. I'm may not agree 100% with some former and current elected officials but I'm proud of each and every one for stepping up and doing a job I don't want!! In many ways they are like our military forces and police and fire fighters. They are all doing the dirty jobs so we can enjoy freedoms that come with being an American.