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Old 01-26-2014, 02:11 PM
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Default Re: 1969 Camaro L89 with JL8 option at Kissimmee

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kwhizz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lynn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is a sad day for this hobby. As a nice clone car it does, of course, have some value. Maybe $60k or there about. Didn't a nice clone ZL1 recently bring around $50k? It would be a lot harder to come up with a complete ZL1 motor than to put a fake L89 together.

If someone were selling forged Renoir as an &quot;original&quot; Renoir, he would likely be prosecuted.

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Or it could be a good day for the hobby if the buyer who after facts surface doesn't appreciate being made a fool of digs in his heels and does something about it?
Not sure which ZL1 clone went for 60 thou recently, perhaps you're thinking of the totally bogus ZL1 motored car that sold for $160 this past fall here in Canada wearing a claimed ZL1 #48 identity?
As for as the Renoir comparisons, in the art world crooks in cahoots buy each other's bogus 'works' at auction when real buyers don't appear touting them as genuine and great buys etc regardless of controversy.
These fraud pieces are put back on the block or held for a while first depending on how much of a kerfuffle ensued when last offered then another whirl given to find real money buyers.
Whether real buyers or crooks passing each other's items around the auction houses make their commisions so obviously they're better off financially to say nothing especially when if a refund is necessary they still get to keep their $.
Sound familiar?
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Default Re: 1969 Camaro L89 with JL8 option at Kissimmee

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PeteLeathersac</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kwhizz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lynn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is a sad day for this hobby. As a nice clone car it does, of course, have some value. Maybe $60k or there about. Didn't a nice clone ZL1 recently bring around $50k? It would be a lot harder to come up with a complete ZL1 motor than to put a fake L89 together.

If someone were selling forged Renoir as an &quot;original&quot; Renoir, he would likely be prosecuted.

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&quot;Bingo&quot; </div></div>

Or it could be a good day for the hobby if the buyer who after facts surface doesn't appreciate being made a fool of digs in his heels and does something about it?
Not sure which ZL1 clone went for 60 thou recently, perhaps you're thinking of the totally bogus ZL1 motored car that sold for $160 this past fall here in Canada wearing a claimed ZL1 #48 identity?
As for as the Renoir comparisons, in the art world crooks in cahoots buy each other's bogus 'works' at auction when real buyers don't appear touting them as genuine and great buys etc regardless of controversy.
These fraud pieces are put back on the block or held for a while first depending on how much of a kerfuffle ensued when last offered then another whirl given to find real money buyers.
Whether real buyers or crooks passing each other's items around the auction houses make their commisions so obviously they're better off financially to say nothing especially when if a refund is necessary they still get to keep their $.
Sound familiar?
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Lot F254 in the Mecum auction on Friday was a ZL 1 clone that sold for $ 62k. Very nice car with a lot of original parts including an original 69 block.
I talked to the guy and his wife, from Houston, that bought it and they were ecstatic and couldn't believe it sold for that price. There was a HO 69 L 72 clone that later bid to $70 and was a no sale, go figure.


http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_detail...mp;startRow=281




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