<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tracker1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This thread:
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbt...opics/513814/2
On page 2, I commented about how 357K was nuts for the red W30 convertible that went through BJ in 2013 (my comment is still there). I distinctly remember and will swear on my son's life that a couple of well-known "muscle car retailers" on this site came back very quickly in that thread to say that no, this was an accurate price for such a car, with a tone insinuating I didn't know what I was talking about (often true, but not in this instance). Then it blew up because someone else pointed out that the car had been found to have "questionable docs" as in aged and/or manipulated and/or outright falsified. Several people commented on it...but not me (I don't do tol-ya-so's) or the two respected sellers of muscle cars. All of this IS GONE from this thread. And I tell ya, IT WAS THERE in 2013. My comment about "protected" wasn't aimed at the administration of the site - that would be conspiracy theory and I don't do those either - it was aimed at those who want certain cars to maintain values and will protect the value of those cars if they happen to be in their inventory. At least that is what it felt like to me in 2013 on this particular thread. </div></div>
Des,
Conspiracy theories aside and in regards to the Red Barrett Jackson W-30. Your statements and opinions are just not completely accurate. The collector who was seeking a best of the best, 4 speed convertible knew what he was after. He obviously wanted the car more than the money. The fact that the paperwork Thornton had come up with, was fraudulent......well that is another matter and I would surmise, one of the reasons that the deal was backed up. The car was resold with no documentation at the next BJ auction for $250k. This to me is more surprising than the initial sale when the paperwork was believed to be authentic. The high bidder in-turn went out and purchased a bullet proof convertible and had it restored/cleaned up to his standards. While I was not involved with the sale/purchase, communicating with the buyer and seller leads me to be very confident that he has more invested than you may approve.
As someone who follows W-30s to a degree and who has had direct involvement with them, I can let you know that there was a recent offer tendered to purchase one of the known and documented W-30 4 speeds for much more than the BJ car, but the owner decided not to sell it and another great W-30 4 speed rag top recently traded hands in the value range of the BJ W-30.
With only 96 ever produced and approx 25 considered to be real and even fewer with original drivetrains, its not difficult to understand why a collector may decide to pay such a price. I don't make the market, but am familiar with it.